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nubbins`: ^ that's yours, not mine
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: another ingredient, since you were making a list, is the seed list
ben_vulpes just cracked the craptop
asciilifeform: nubbins`: would you care to post a photo of the unit ?
asciilifeform: it just makes pointers take up 2x the space
trinque: bet you could tell it about updates just like deedbot
asciilifeform: anyway since when do i have to decide this
asciilifeform: but i wasn't even thinking of this.
trinque: up to the operator to deploy updates later?
nubbins`: ah, i thought the purple logo'd one did
nubbins`: have the eject button send us a message on irc or something
asciilifeform: or else how is operator to know what becomes of his node
asciilifeform: it is also of great importance to blink the correct colour led!
nubbins`: fdisk in crontab to be safe
asciilifeform: the one ingredient that is still needed, that i have not attempted at all, is the formatter
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2015 01:20:19; mod6: alright, new droplet created for x32 deb6 testing.
mircea_popescu: (in the sense of having a miserable memory leaking low cost node)
mircea_popescu: so then, this + 32bit bitcoind and we're done.
asciilifeform: and can be trimmed into some approximation of good shape.
asciilifeform: this is amply enough to work from
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: today by popular demand i went on a little deathmarch and got a source-built traditional linux going on it.
nubbins`: eject button too!
asciilifeform: (it croaks, having no meaningful rootfs, but that's for tomorrow) ☟︎
asciilifeform: anyway whoever wants can boot up turdel using my tftp instructions (or by actually flashing it in) and see that it did happen.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: there are some memory-mapped i/o iirc
nubbins`: actually, looking at the pogoplug-related entries in that patch, it's all trivial stuff
asciilifeform: 7089334f25a0e1d8b09db96da4d61fbdf7ea7aca258fdd20012f85be976c39e63f5bc29842b25f0dc18a8ccdc74ad1e7c4ed7af56faa39b3917f76e082077589 turdel.gz
asciilifeform: the interesting parts were rolled in some time ago in mainline, apparently
nubbins`: so you didn't need anything from that patch file?
mircea_popescu: so this is a sheevaplug brew of what, netbsd ?
nubbins`: THAT'S THE SPIRIT
asciilifeform: 2) mercilessly root out the idiot crud that gets rolled in by default
asciilifeform: tomorrow evening i'll 1) flash in the rootfs to get something like a working box
asciilifeform: didn't use any of the weirdo crap from above link
asciilifeform: that's the boojum, i think
nubbins`: he's got config files going back to 3.8.11 fwiw
BingoBoingo: God dammit, coyotes are back already this year
BingoBoingo: JetA puts out fires pretty well though provided you are flicking a cigarette butt into a bucket of JetA most of the time
BingoBoingo: And the carbon tetrachloride fire extinguishing grenade
BingoBoingo also learned today all of his most exotic fire extinguisher ideas have largely been incorporated into class D fire extinguishers already except for the DU based supressant idea
BingoBoingo: perhaps pogolinux is actually just OS/2 with gratuitous text substitution?
asciilifeform: anyway it's just as dead as the last maxint kernels
nubbins`: boo. didja try 3.18 or .16
asciilifeform: (the extra mass in the config was actually from building every possible module. which went into the rootfs and had no impact on the kernel proper)
asciilifeform: nubbins`: from that kernel.
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asciilifeform: and that is why ten thousand joysticks ?
nubbins`: "for GoFlex Home/Net, Pogoplug E02/Mobile/V4, iConnect, Dockstar, Sheevaplug, NSA320, NSA325, Topkick, and all other Kirkwood plugs that are already in the mainline"
nubbins`: i thought i accidentally pasted twice when scrolling down to pastebin submit button!
asciilifeform: i mean, it's 10x the size
asciilifeform: crapolade that is not possibly used for anything, ever.
asciilifeform: woah the sheer amount of turdage in that one
gribble: What do you think I am, a shell?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: ty, about to test it
nubbins`: but i think the guide i used was for 3.18
nubbins`: which is what i followed to get my pogo up and running
assbot: Qui's techNOLOGY Blog: Hacking the Pogoplug v4 (Series 4 and Mobile) with Linux (Debian or Arch) ... ( http://bit.ly/1LaLl9S )
nubbins`: this is the guy from http://blog.qnology.com/2014/07/hacking-pogoplug-v4-series-4-and-mobile.html
asciilifeform: but it means that there is no way to replicate the kernel build short of catching the perpetrator and slowly roasting him over a fire
asciilifeform: nubbins`: snipped to save space then
BingoBoingo yet to try .foundation build as spec'd, mostly has moar weird in his plan pipeline
asciilifeform: if no one has debian, but someone has arch - please post that
asciilifeform: note that this may or may not work depending on whether the kernel was built with this enabled
asciilifeform: please extract the config & post
asciilifeform: just that there is no meaningful detail in there about config for 3.18
BingoBoingo: sheevaplug seems to be different beast for reasons only Vishnu knows
asciilifeform: nubbins`: there most certainly was not.
nubbins`: might be something of interest there
assbot: Gentoo Linux Documentation-- Gentoo on the Marvell SheevaPlug ... ( http://bit.ly/1FDC6Ru )
BingoBoingo: In other news I discovered apparently firefighting trains exist
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform> nubbins`: one's a phantom limb, i think << Phantom limbs got me much less excited about the latest Sun hardware I'd been investigating when the problem of keeping a post 2016 blockchain would have been a big challenge. (IDE limited to sub 127 GB, USB 1.1, and Firewire ports unsupported in OS of choice which means gambling on PCI USB 2.0 card working for moar storage)
nubbins`: or a sign nobody's been that poor before
decimation: one sign that nobody is rich today is that nobody could possibly dream of floating the national debt of england
asciilifeform: nubbins`: one's a phantom limb, i think
asciilifeform: -none of these os-en build on the machine itself!!!-
asciilifeform: oh, and in case this wasn't clear,
asciilifeform: if you're thinking of speed - 2
asciilifeform: one is buildroot's, the other is the kernel's
asciilifeform: use the two configs posted just now.
asciilifeform: http://buildroot.uclibc.org << anyone who wants to re-create my experiment, now can
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is the -only- thing i was able to build from source and actually get a shell on
decimation: keynes threw england into the shitter just so he could 'win at the game of life'
mircea_popescu: so basically no os whatsoever builds on these things ?
asciilifeform: just like the... 57? previous linux kernels i built for this thing.
asciilifeform: building for arm922t which, as far as i can tell, marvell is compatible with.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron there wouldn't normally be huge differences.
asciilifeform: still no boot, with this >> http://dpaste.com/2Z0E50V.txt
mircea_popescu: "teach the faux controversy mayhap people forget shit doesn't have tyo be eaten"
mircea_popescu: so to conflate "modern idiotic usgtronics" with "capitalism" which in turn conflates with "everything minus stone age, feudalism, and the soviets" is...
mod6: going once... going twice ... SOLD! to the man with 3 letters and integer in his nick
danielpbarron: that's it? i thought maybe it patched stuff in the source or something
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: specified toolchain for possible cross-compilation
BingoBoingo: Ah, we're unthreading all of the vocabulary today!
danielpbarron: what does the portatronic thing do differently?
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mod6: it seems a bit silly to post a patch also back to the original portatronic version for this. anyone have any objections if i just publish a full copy of the 32bit auto.sh and a patch of auto.sh to the previous version (v0.0.5 included in the -RELEASE) ?
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asciilifeform: nor is there any ready means for determining which un-modern combination of tools it -did- build on
decimation: have none of it. ... Because he wanted to be known as the man who overthrew the gold standard and replaced it with a new, rational, managed international monetary system. So he very much had his own personal legacy at heart here. <http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2015/02/benn_steil_on_t.html
decimation: And in fact there was a rear-guard action, launched in May of 1944, just before the Bretton Woods Conference, by a group of influential New York bankers, who very much hated the Bretton Woods agenda. They offered to lend Britain at least $3 billion dollars after the War, in return for which Britain would walk away from the Bretton Woods Conference. Clarke and others in the British Treasury wanted to pursue this idea. But Keynes would