506900+ entries in 2.724s
mike_c: yes,
that was suboptimal :)
jurov: and
there were misc options.futures expirations
mike_c: i'm
trying
to
think of one, what balance change wouldn't have a reason?
mike_c: i'm not
trying
to argue, was just
trying
to flesh out
the issues. but i
think we covered it.
jurov: not going
to argue with you
jurov: davout isn't even daytrading... and
took him fkn long
time
to get
the bot right
mike_c: and i mean
that from a business perspective, i'm sure some of
them are perfectly pleasant people who just happen
to
think
they are going
to daytrade
their way
to stardom.
mike_c: let
the brokers deal with
them :)
jurov: i can see even non-broker client wanting
to avoid hairy state machine
to accurately
track
the account for daytrading
jurov: yes, if
that's all you expect from an exchange...
mike_c: except one
time where something got fucked with a proxy i
think :)
mike_c: but i've never heard about problems like 'my bid didn't match
the best offer'
mike_c: i've heard you
talk about stuff like 'eventually consistent' and
the statements missing some useful
tracking features.
jurov: security is good. but i won't repeat myself about
the other stuff
mike_c: you
think
the
trading engine isn't solid? or security?
jurov: i fucked
too intimately with said parts
to put myself behind such statement
mike_c: around
the edges it is rough, but
the important parts are rock solid.
mike_c: people have
to pay
to play, what do
they need seed money for
the game for?
jurov: they will find a way
to circulate
them into ingame economy,
that is not so big problem
mike_c: and I
think it's
too bad because it's an exciting company. if
they're never going
to spend
the money, maybe just special dividend it back
to
the shareholders.
mike_c: which is why some people who would rather have
the cash
themselves are willing
to dump it at 90% of book value.
mike_c: davout: re s.mg. I
think
the problem
there is
that it is speculative whether
they will be able
to generate enough revenue
to move
the needle on
the share price. so you might have your capital frozen in a stock
that is basically valued as a pile of cash.
mike_c: of course,
the options exchange was hardly closed without reason (including some
that remained unspoken), so it's
tough
to bring it back.
mike_c: so without
the options, where does mpex get revenue? it's an issue, and one
that may be being reflected now in
the stock price
mike_c: but, point being,
these stocks are generally held by serious investors and aren't going
to have huge
turnover.
mike_c: heh, well, it's currently
trading below book value
davout: i'd naively say you'd base a valuation on
the cash assets?
mike_c: how do you
trade in a company with no revenue and 10k bitcoin on
the books?
mike_c: ^ 1% of bitbet has
turned over in
the last month.
that seems "right"
to me. s.mg is untradeable because it has so much coin.
jurov: ^ large part of
this was me, buying for upcoming divs
jurov: but small investors
that were caught
there,
talked about it
mike_c: people didn't brag/mourn about options
trades either, and
those were brutal
mike_c: heh, yeah. but
that said more about s.dice
than anything else
jurov: i don't remember any such
thing for a long
time recentyl
jurov: i know, being half serious.. but really, i remember from s.dice
times half of
the chan bragging(or mourning) about
trades
they did
mike_c: also,
the 'announcement' was recent and
the slide started some
time ago. my guess is it has more
to do with
the drop in revenue
than anything else, but mp and I have argued
that before :)
mike_c: i mean, i don't
think i've ever seen anyone ever except you ask in channel.
mike_c: jurov: wouldn't you expect most people
to not ask for deposits/withdrawals in channel?
jurov: but i hope
that if mp was scammer, he'd have arranged
the situation
to not look so forlorn :D
jurov: i'm very curious what aill come out of
this
jurov: supposedly everyone got
their own deposit addy and nobody except me comes here
to pester mircea for deposits/withdrawals
jurov: davout no cockpit, we just uncovered
the fraud with kako
davout: ;;later
tell mircea_popescu looks like someone has locked S.MPOE's cockpit from
the inside!
davout: gotta make fun of
the neckbeard pesos
davout: mats:
this seems
to be supporting mp's
thing "bitcoin can only work over gossipd"
assbot: fluffyponyza comments on Almost 10% more full nodes since
this morning connected
to
the network. Over 400 more in US. Is
there some sort of competition I don't know of ? ... (
http://bit.ly/1xAZ4GA )
Vexual: fuck if you cant bankruot without a name change
tho
Vexual: i guess
that what parole is
mircea_popescu: felipelalli yes you can query it with curl. it spits out json if you append json
to any dir
Vexual: hey popescue,
two bottle of wine, one better
than
the other, which do you drink first?
mircea_popescu: dude asciilifeform
talking
to danielpbarron is breaking my stack. same length names!
Vexual: might have
to buy
this pogo
thing
too
Vexual: ohimjust here for
the plonk data
nubbins`: i guess
this is as good a
time as any
to call it a night
nubbins`: prolly should have
tested
tftp before setting it first in
the boot order on
the pogo
danielpbarron: i
think it's in
the debian instructions nubbins` found
danielpbarron: i feel a lot more confident
to write documentation on
that now
danielpbarron: i remember why
this didn't work with
the netbsd one
danielpbarron: i mean
that i had previously flashed in a different uboot
nubbins`: ok, sorry,
this
turdel, what am i doing with it once gunzipped?