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nubbins`: $5 says they get someone else to install it for em
decimation: note she won the 0.1 btc lottery and apparently thought that nothing else would come of it
nubbins`: mircea_popescu email the smartest journalist in .ar and tell em youve got a bombshell, but they need pgp
asciilifeform: usually if someone has the basic nervous system needed to operate the machine at all, he -can-
mircea_popescu: nubbins` btw, i am VERY suspect of people who claim to "not be able to figure it out".
mircea_popescu: but i suspect it comes with three different types of cherenkov effect
mircea_popescu: it boggles the mind to try and imagine what this thing that pays for the divergence would look like,
nubbins`: s had to make a video etc
nubbins`: asciilifeform iirc s tried to teach greenwald gpg and he couldnt figure it out
decimation: at least the lottery is voluntary wealth distribution
mircea_popescu: NOTEVEN DOOM MUSIC! in the shape of government handouts
mircea_popescu: of course not! lottery is an entropic result! thinkaboutit!!11
decimation: well, apparently not the lottery
mircea_popescu: decimation and who's paying for the divergence from thermodynamics ?
asciilifeform: the genuine article doesn't have time or microphone to whine
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 100 to 1 it's 'clock punchers'
mircea_popescu: or just some of these clock punchers didn't get money for their mortgage.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: believe or not, i haven't the time
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: If your shiva eyes/hands have the time the citizenfour thing doesn't actually promote the innocence of any parties features, but clearly illustrates Greenwald's shitgnommery
mircea_popescu: but in general, given the choice between "a flawed study few can recognise as flawed" and "no study", pseudo-scientists readily (and understandably, from a gt perspective) go for the former.
mircea_popescu: lottery is just a very bad model for this sort of research
asciilifeform: however, note that maths phd etc. never win lotteries
asciilifeform: decimation: ^ known around the world
decimation: it turns out that a poor bum who wins alot of money is still just a poor bum
decimation: "Overall, our findings suggest that correlations observed in affluent, developed countries between (i) wealth and health or (ii) parental income and children’s outcomes do not reflect a causal effect of wealth."
mircea_popescu: lottery has nothing to do with either income or wealth.
decimation: someone who wins the swedish lottery could be a better person
decimation: ^ writing about winning the swedish lottery
asciilifeform out of date then
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> <asciilifeform> does s ever -mention- pgp? << Snowden mentions GPG all of the time, Greenwald mentions tor all of the time << exactly apt description.
decimation: The effects on most other child outcomes, which include drug consumption, scholastic performance, and skills, can usually be bounded to a tight interval around zero. ^ http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/the-null-hypothesis-for-income-and-wealth/
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> does s ever -mention- pgp? << Snowden mentions GPG all of the time, Greenwald mentions tor all of the time
mircea_popescu: wife could stop being a fat bitch and husband could stop ejaculating early and watching the game.
decimation: note that snowden saw himself as far less inept than his colleages, and he was probably right
decimation: but the cactus seemed like a better option
decimation: usg could fire 90% of its staff, rationalize its tax system, and start colonizing the world
mircea_popescu: well sure, in the sense someone raping himself with a cactus is "self-imposedly damaging his anus"
decimation: re: costs < yes, usg is cost constrained, but note that nearly all of it is 'self-imposed damage'
mircea_popescu: is that a cost you look for and quantify ?
decimation: he was 'promoted' to a 'non-in-charge-of-life-and-death decisions' post
mircea_popescu: perhaps in the "we can't send anyone to tikrit" ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you see the costs for THAT yet alf ?
asciilifeform: just as they 'training accidented' the -whole fucking crew-
mircea_popescu: decimation let me guess, he tried to wreck by having the trains overloaded so they will run the tracks down faster ?
asciilifeform: l0l, this is prelude to death
mircea_popescu: yeah, because everyone likes to say "present company excluded".
assbot: CIA official who directed hunt for bin Laden is being removed from post - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1FOkH8O )
decimation: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/architect-of-cias-drone-campaign-to-leave-post-in-watershed-moment-for-agency/2015/03/25/261289ec-d2f7-11e4-ab77-9646eea6a4c7_story.html < this is probably what happens to them
mircea_popescu: maddox's "dancing party" thing much more adequate for the demo.
asciilifeform: or merely the fact that one of the documents (not necessarily his) did so
decimation: the man has the operational acumen of a wet noodle
mircea_popescu: (now, that guardian has all through had a very strong "dope it" agenda is true, and quite visible
mircea_popescu: and most of that is guardian rewriting what he actually said.
mircea_popescu: he very guardedly recomends tor.
asciilifeform: and every time he opens mouth, what comes out? 'brave journalists', 'use tor!', etc
mircea_popescu: THIS is the best angle for him being a conspiraci, a sort of mike hearn of the cia.
jurov: mod6 ben_vulpes where will the manual go? i can put a wiki somewhere
mircea_popescu: decimation if nothing else, he has done A LOT to measure the power of the entire "crowd source" "power of the people" etc thing.
asciilifeform: decimation: the state-controlled media fellates him 24/7
decimation: re: snowden etc. < I think it's hilarious that folks see conspiracy when redditard volunteer would do
mircea_popescu: prolly stuff in his manual as is closest to what you want
mircea_popescu: but the thing stil lin flux
mircea_popescu: TomServo sorta in the middle here, we're just about to have danielpbarron write a noobs manual
asciilifeform: TomServo: you don't have to solder the serial port if you're careful
asciilifeform: !up tris
TomServo: there's been so many links flying around. What's the quickest way to defile one of these after cracking it open?
TomServo: unfortunately due to poor ebay skills my cp2102 arrive... 'sometime' in april
mircea_popescu: nice TomServo
mircea_popescu: to my head, the phrase aptly describes that piece which goes "contains ad admixture of true and trite, but what isn't trite also isn't true"
TomServo: ey folks, got my shipment today http://i.imgur.com/13p8tXK.jpg :D
asciilifeform: also fella has a net presence vastly smaller than what one expects even a very modest crackpot
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nope, he fell from mars. but echoed certain trains of thought that i heretofore encountered only in own head. hence linked.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform let me put it this way : given a collection of dots, why would anyone care on the graphs built upon them by anyone not in their wot ? you know this guy ?
assbot: Logged on 26-03-2015 17:31:31; felipelalli: mircea_popescu: thank you so much. But I guess this is not true on OTC WoT? Only in assbot, right?
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-03-2015#1072639 << using the word "this" in your sentence exposes you to this situation where your line is burried in a different discussion and evaluated while im in the middle of a yet another different discussion, producing a "wut ?" as sole output.
assbot: Logged on 26-03-2015 17:25:05; asciilifeform: sachs also lists names, times, places of folks 'suicided' by usg, with reasons.
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-03-2015#1072626 << yes, but nothing he couldn't (and in all likelyhood didn't) obtain by wikipedia trolling.
mircea_popescu: the us has no friends today, principally, because of snowden.
mircea_popescu: there's numerous examples of very similar things.
mircea_popescu: and for all the "no lizard interest" high horse : take the cisco collapse.
mircea_popescu: i've not seen anything this damaging to the us foreign interests in the history of the us.
assbot: Logged on 26-03-2015 17:23:52; nubbins`: anyway, you're correct in that nothing leaked was particularly damaging to the lizards
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-03-2015#1072621 << i disagree with this, ftr. it was atrocious.
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yfw | yfw you realize every one of the previous definitions are wrong ... "Hey YFW, been trying to call you all day" (A substitute for the friendly form of 'bitch'.) Or..
mircea_popescu: like you know, sitting bull in that circus act.
mircea_popescu: this by definition : the same thing that'd make you buy hisass (ie, his "personal brand") ensures he has an alternative, however minimal.
mircea_popescu: that's a twelve year old trick.
mircea_popescu: an old man is not going to be a subsistence prostitute. ever.
mircea_popescu: sure, we could even argue the collapse was inevitable, and while the particular incident gives it flavour, the us was going to soviet union all over itself anyway.
asciilifeform: something like ted turner turning tricks in a bangkok gay bar to buy a bowl of rice every other day - would count
mircea_popescu: by this standard, the wtc bombing also did nothing.
mircea_popescu: "this bomb did nothing, inasmuch as it didn't bring down any of the currently standing buildings"
assbot: Logged on 26-03-2015 17:21:02; asciilifeform: that is, why not a single one of the 'leaks' actually damaged any tangible lizard interest
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-03-2015#1072613 << anyway, this only works if one's willing to arrange the definition of tangible and interest after the fact.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i think he means 'he led the nsa device catalogue leaker to his anthill death' << The part of citizenfour filmed in Russia seems to support this hypothesis
mircea_popescu: heck, kakobrekla heard a mouthful over his "leading derps into trying to steal from other bettors" or what was it, the bitbet scam thing.
asciilifeform: but if it appears to happen to every user, then it will be quite analogous to mr s
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform at some point a decent argument will be constructable that you "led" some idiot to his death, too. because you know, used cardano after toasting it in pizza oven.
mircea_popescu: maybe the real snowden is actually idiosyncratic. ya think this is possible ? "nobody did this, except this one guy, but he couldn't have done it because his behaviour is inconsistent"
asciilifeform: i think he means 'he led the nsa device catalogue leaker to his anthill death' ☟︎