502500+ entries in 0.323s
Chillum: mag stripe cards
that can be swiped at variable speeds(different speeds in
the same swipe) use a
timing signal
Chillum: If
there were a strip of
timing lines at even intervals you could even just put it into a depression and hand pull it across, if
they were wide enough a bit of slant would be okay
ascii_field: nubbins`: but apparently no one
tested
this release on gentoo !
ascii_field: Chillum: virtually everything
that comes out of mine is slightly crooked
Chillum: a modified printer can pull
the paper past
the readers
nubbins`: <+ascii_field> a virginal gentoo box is imho presently
the gold standard of non-retarded computing (at least on linux. could argue with openbsd, etc) <<< if anyone reading
this is at all interested in playing with .foundation releases going forward, i'd strongly encourage
they fire up a VM and actually go
through a fresh gentoo install. official guides are well-written and if you can't handle
this step, you're not ready for monkey-football
Chillum: plus devices
that pull receipt paper along are already available and cheap[
Chillum: 4 readers next
to each other
Chillum: good idea
to reduce seek
time of
the scanner. Was
thinking long strip of paper because
thermal paper is so cheap and it could be pulled
through and spat out
ascii_field: nubbins`: and
this is everyone's loss, because i was gonna attempt a proper fix for
the orphans
thing
tonight
ascii_field: nubbins`: i am unable
to build with auto.sh
ascii_field: Chillum: i do it differently. 'boustrophedonic' (if you don't know, look it up) raster scan on
the
tape
nubbins`: <+ascii_field> and where
the fuck DOES
this
thing build? <<< apparently only on osx and DPB's pogos o.O
Chillum: hmm a strip of
thermal paper could have 4 different barcodes running along
the length of
the strip
to be read concurrently
to reduce paper size
Chillum: fair enough, was just
thinking of information density
ascii_field: traditional barcode gives you a very easy means of estimating
the size of
the payload
Chillum: some control over
the content is still needed
Chillum: even if you have a
trusted barcode reader feeding information into a rs232 port you can still
trigger a buffer overflow in something
that uses
the data
ascii_field: Chillum: barcode reader is simple enough conceptually
that it doesn't need a cpu.
☟︎☟︎ Chillum: of course you will have
to
trust its cpu
Chillum: you can even program your own microcontroller with
the barcode algo if you are worried
Chillum: I wonder if you can feed a very long 2d barcode as a paper
tape
Chillum: type
the whole
transaction??
Chillum: so how would one move information
to and from a cold wallet? I want
to avoid USB which is full of issues
Chillum: even if you software decode a signal
the hardware can still
tamper with it
Chillum: I
think all means of moving information from one computer
to another involves some hardware
trinque: ascii_field: I'm not advocating
this
ascii_field: internally
there is still code
that decodes
the fucking bitmap
trinque: much like barcode scanners
tend
to be
trinque: hardware assist likely means
the qr code reader is actually a keyboard
ascii_field: Chillum: you may come from a place where
the word 'hardware' means you are permitted
to not
think about how something works. #b-a is not such a place.
ascii_field: Chillum: and what's in
the hardware? pixie dust?
ascii_field: and correspondingly -
they enlarge attack surface.
Chillum: that is why I was
thinking hardware assist qr
ascii_field: Chillum: If one could have cheap hardware with a built in hardware assist qr reader <<
this is one of
the
things i disagree with mircea_popescu about. i do not like qr codes.
they require a surprising amount of algorithmic complexity and consequently cpu horsepower
to decode.
chetty: well I guess eulora will get
the ultimate
test
then, mp is planning on installing a copy on such a box soonish
☟︎ ascii_field: if something doesn't build correctly
there - it's broken.
ascii_field: a virginal gentoo box is imho presently
the gold standard of non-retarded computing (at least on linux. could argue with openbsd, etc)
ascii_field: why is it in
there? is it still in phoundation's fork?
ascii_field: all
the 'long long' crapolade and any other non-stdint idiocy needs
to go.
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: 'Force had a habit of
throwing is profession around' ?
ascii_field: i distinctly recall fixing
this in one of my patches
assbot: Logged on 26-03-2015 01:51:17; danielpbarron: last
time i
tried
to build bitcoind i got
this far -> util.h:650:8: error: 'uint32_t' does not name a
type
ascii_field: ben_vulpes, mod6, et al: auto.sh leads
to 'util.h:650:8: error: ‘uint32_t’ does not name a
type' on my boxes.
BingoBoingo: SquirtPrincess: Not really, just have
to wait for mircea_popescu
to show up.
ascii_field: SquirtPrincess: ask mircea_popescu about
this
ascii_field: but
the use of boxes not under
therealbitcoin's control, for any purpose, is not a
thing
to live with indefinitely
BingoBoingo: <mod6> good deal. im excited about a hardened version of bitcoin
to run on obsd! << Just remember on obsd libressl is an option. Libressl v 2.0 syncs plays much nicer with
the built in OpenBSD memory protections
than OpenSSL does,
those changes were
the reason
they forked.
ascii_field: ben_vulpes, mod6, et al: auto.sh downloads
tarballs from places
that aren't
therealbitcoin
Chillum: If one could have cheap hardware with a built in hardware assist qr reader
then you could use
that for a cold wallet system. You would likely need more
than one qr code per
tx
though
mod6: good deal. im excited about a hardened version of bitcoin
to run on obsd!
trinque: Chillum: sure, but
there's a barrier
to getting someone
to deal with another gadget
BingoBoingo: mod6: Sounds good. I'll likely point
to
that in addition
to what I have already
mod6: BingoBoingo: cool. ive got openssl/bdb/boost built now on obsd 5.6,
then just gotta apply sublte obsd changes
to v0.5.3.1 and
then
try
the static build. if all works & pulls blocks, I'll make patches: one for
the v0.5.3.1 source and one for `auto.sh' (which needs a few
tweaks). maybe you can just point at
that instead. anyway, no worries.
Chillum: it is only a laser based barcode scanner
though, so no qr codes
Chillum: Simpler is more secure, I don't
trust my phone. Not sure what it is running but if you could get a fresh linux install it would be nice
trinque: and I
think having a standing order of whatever per month
trumps all
trinque: Chillum: kinda neat,
though why not just scan with a phone app
trinque: what is
this, infiltration by fake cam girl?
BingoBoingo: mod6: Cool if
the news ever calms down enough
try
try
the reference build I'm going
to have
to put
this in
the notebook.
mod6: BingoBoingo:
thank's for
the OpenBSD reminder about arc4random, a note about your blog
though... you do say 7.x or 8 or w/e.. in v0.5.3/v0.5.3.1
the function
that contains
that part
to change from rand()
to arc4random() is called: CWallet::SelectCoinsMinConf
Chillum: by reducing
the difficulty of ordering people are significantly more likely
to order
ascii_field: (why
this entire gadget is necessary, i still do not understand)
ascii_field: trinque: from
the ad, it seems like
the button comes unadorned but possibly with different stickers depending on what vendor you set yours
to
Chillum: lol, I want
to reprogram
them, put a sticker over
the advert
trinque: it's so you have a fucking cotonelle logo next
to you every
time you shit
ascii_field: Chillum: even funnier: eventually printer will want a credit card inserted when you print. but - you get
toner in
the mail when runs out
Chillum: you have
to push buttons after all
trinque: gotta
turn your house into a gerbil cage
Chillum is going
to push every single one of
those he sees
Chillum: one click ordering was
too hard
Chillum: at first. I bet
they will start shipping
them along with whatever you order soon
ascii_field: Chillum: ad says
they will be given away
to subscribers
Chillum: I bet
they give
those away are sell
them really cheap
to sell more product
ascii_field: should expect,
then,
that as
their power
trickles away,
their license
to kill will be revoked, and
they find
themselves reclassified from global hegemons
to mere murderers.'
ascii_field: ted
to Russia
to stand
trial.
This is largely a symbolic gesture, but non-symbolic non-gestures of a preventive nature are sure
to follow. You see, my fellow space
travelers, murder happens
to be illegal. In most jurisdictions, inciting others
to murder also happens
to be illegal. Americans have granted
themselves
the license
to kill without checking
to see whether perhaps
they might be exceeding
their authority. We
ascii_field: 'Recently a retired US general went on
television
to declare
that what's needed
to
turn around
the situation in
the Ukraine is
to simply “start killing Russians.”
The Russians listened
to
that, marveled at his idiocy, and
then went ahead and opened a criminal case against him. Now
this general will be unable
to
travel
to an ever-increasing number of countries around
the world for fear of getting arrested and depor
ascii_field: (idiocies like boards with video chip, sound card, etc. at 3
to 5
times
the cost - don't count, not interesting in
the least)
ascii_field: in other 'news', week straight of scouring
the net for
traces of anything even roughly comparable
to 'pogo' still being in production -
nubbins`: i added c++ support via nconfig after applying your
two patches, gonna see what
that spits out