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mircea_popescu: one's just gotta pick on which side
they wish
to live ilegally.
nubbins`: donating
to .foundation just got made illegal
ascii_field: 'I hereby determine
that
the making of donations of
the
type of articles specified in section 203(b)(2) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(b)(2)) by,
to, or for
the benefit of any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant
to section 1 of
this order would seriously impair my ability
to deal with
the national emergency declared in
this order, and I hereby prohibit such donations as provided by section 1 of
mircea_popescu: welll hopefully you all got your propertah out of
the us at any point during
the many discussions as
to
teh effect.
chetty: they are warming up
the wagens
ascii_field: significant
threat
to
the national security, foreign policy, or economic health or financial stability of
the United States...'
ascii_field: 'any person determined by
the Secretary of
the
Treasury, in consultation with
the Attorney General and
the Secretary of State,
to be responsible for or complicit in, or
to have engaged in, directly or indirectly, cyber-enabled activities originating from, or directed by persons located, in whole or in substantial part, outside
the United States
that are reasonably likely
to result in, or have materially contributed
to, a
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ima read
the qntra. usually better
than original.
mircea_popescu: so willy-nilly we can't practically use
the vomit of
the others.
assbot: Executive Order -- "Blocking
the Property of Certain Persons Engaging in Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities" |
The White House ... (
http://bit.ly/1CamuO6 )
mircea_popescu: and
this is a major political decision we are, as far as history knows,
the ONLY group willing
to make.
mircea_popescu: is
to make it actively insulting
to
the stupidity of
the nonpractitioners.
ascii_field: what i actually meant was 'one which is not actively insulting
to
the intelligence of practitioners'
mircea_popescu: all standards are, by
the nature of what a standard is, irrational.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field
there is no such
thing as a rational standard.
assbot: Logged on 01-04-2015 16:36:53; pete_dushenski: plugging your ears and hoping
that
the bad words don't leak in must be a
terrible way
to live
ascii_field: now, i'm not saying we should all eat our nagants, nothing can be done. one can achieve some measure of stability. but as
things fall apart, as
they increasingly are,
the fuzz at
the edges will look like...
this.
mircea_popescu: well,
the good news is
that serenissima really has no unemployment.
assbot: Logged on 12-03-2015 01:50:22; asciilifeform: 'mil-std-1750a' for
the curious.
ascii_field: and
the plague is ancient. it is how usg ended up with its attempts
to standardize cpu
ascii_field: don't
take my word for it. ask another schmuck who works with low-level iron.
mircea_popescu: so you'll soon discover "same part number" when we're
talking boards means exactly nothing, and we'll be stuck
tracing down exact vintage ?
ascii_field: this also applies
to, e.g., pc southbridges
ascii_field: in some errata sheet
there may or many not be an explanation.
ascii_field: but
the devil lives in
the details. i have on my desk, for example,
two nominally-identical microcontrollers which behave - differently.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: if exactly same,
then will.
this is kinda my notion with 'pogo'.
mircea_popescu: a bitwise copy of your current system on an assemblage of
the same hardware wouldn't boot ?
mircea_popescu: don't
tell me we lost
the "interchangeable parts"
to
THAT degree.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field shouldn't be any extra work really. just, bundle
the software with a description of
the hardware.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu:
thing is, look how
the 'freeze it all in amber'
thing works on bitcoind.
mircea_popescu: this entire "latest version" bullcrap has
to go away anyway.
mircea_popescu: this is incidentally not a bug. it is a feature. it helps us put pressure on hw manufacturers
too
ascii_field: titanic amount of work for one schmuck's spare
time.
mircea_popescu: "you want
to be here, you must buy nvidia hf-333 for a video card" is perfectly okay.
ascii_field: try
to understand how
the original gentoo went
to seed
ascii_field: mircea_popescu is only
the 3rd or 4th fella
to suggest
that i
take up maintaining a linux planet
mircea_popescu: or from a whole array of equivalent muppets all "doing
their part".
mircea_popescu: he's not distinguishable from poettering
trying
to fuck up
the linux userland
mircea_popescu: there's nothing magic about usgavin
trying
to fuck up
the bitcoin stack.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field exactly. which is why i said, "when confronted with a bad software stack (pick a pogo, fix
the os, run it
there) is
the correct solution not just for
THAT one problem but for all
the problems derived from
the same source."
ascii_field: essentially, suggesting
that we sit down and become 'gentoo'
ascii_field: beginning
to see where mircea_popescu is going
assbot: Logged on 22-03-2015 04:00:07; mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-03-2015#1063215 <<< note
the important
takeaway here. nothing keeps people in other places with shit banks from being intelligent, getting in wot, becoming part of
the actual bitcoin marketplace.
there's people here from all over
the world. over
time, a low effort / consumer
thing like btcjam HAS
TO devolve into
the
typical check advance / spam loan operation.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i am actually suggesting people move
their day
to day computing AWAY from "linux" or from "gentoo" which are MEANINGLESSSSSSSSS
ascii_field: mircea_popescu:
think for a minute. not suggesting
to run battlefield apparatus -on- emulator. but a place
to standardize imaginary machine for cross-compilators.
mircea_popescu: "same" for any definition of same
that doesn't include, say, someone stealing your data.
ascii_field: think nintendo or commodore emulators used
today.
ascii_field: emulated machine will run same on 'cray' build in '88 and on 'multivac' in
the year 3000.
assbot: Logged on 01-04-2015 16:12:29; jurov: pete_dushenski: i'm not sure what you request?
that i should keep
the shares in custody?
assbot: Logged on 01-04-2015 16:06:30; nubbins`: i
thought he was a robot
that just spouted words about business
assbot: Logged on 22-10-2014 18:16:50; asciilifeform: no,
that's braindamaged. qemu image - complete minimal bsd with all components, boots up (emulated) on any arch from any culture.
mircea_popescu: i had no fucking idea,
then, of exactly
the state of rot in foss.
ascii_field: incidentally, perhaps you folks remember
that i wanted
to do
this, in
the beginning
ascii_field: but everyone will have
to make peace with 30x lengthened build
times.
mircea_popescu: but for all
the problems derived from
the same source.
mircea_popescu: and so what we're essentially doing when confronted with a bad software stack (pick a pogo, fix
the os, run it
there) is
the correct solution not just for
THAT one problem
ascii_field: parts
that i mention in public have a
tendency
to become... less obtainable
mircea_popescu: the idea is, it seems clear
to me
that mere package-level specification is dysfunctional./
mircea_popescu: if it comes with a specification of parts
that's also workable.
ascii_field: i suppose mircea_popescu wants one
that runs on qemu or bochs or
the like
mircea_popescu: the idea is, for someone wanting
to copy your environment,
to be able
to do so with minimal work
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: see, my boxes are set up
to do precisely what i explicitly ask'em
to do
mircea_popescu: ascii_field for
that matter, you know, why
the systemwide one ?
the correct one! downloaded from nist.will.pwn.your.box.edu
assbot: Logged on 01-04-2015 16:06:30; nubbins`: i
thought he was a robot
that just spouted words about business
ascii_field: has any of you lot checked
to see
that
the executable resulting from
this build ACTUALL contains
the openssl built by auto.sh ?
mircea_popescu: is
there some obscuritas in
tenebrae switch or something needed on gcc when REALLY statically linking ?
ascii_field: (which result from my gcc NOT going behind my back and inserting stdint exactly where wanted,
the way everyone else's apparently does)
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: my
tests consisted of
two gentoo boxes, one 'old and grey',
the other built in october.
mircea_popescu: this is
the exact opposite of what statically linekd means.
mircea_popescu: that's one
thing.
the other
thing is, what
the fuck do you mean "x in statically linked application requires material from gcc used at
the
time"
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: after discovering and eliminating several of
the reasons for
this, i discover a new one.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu:
to make long story short,
therealbitcoin's release does not build on any of my boxes.
nubbins`: and i want him
to prove he's
the first owner
mircea_popescu: nubbins` no i get
that part, but why is some derp proving stuff
to you and what sutff ? you running kyc nao ?
nubbins`: enough for me
to verify
that
there exists a piece of paper with a bunch of pgp shit on it
that i can't do anything with
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: after fixing a number of
typedef bugs which, going BY
THE FUCKING BOOK OF CPP ought
to prevent
the
thing from building ANYWHERE
ascii_field: mircea_popescu:
the result of attempting
to build
the latest static 0.5.3 on my boxes.
mircea_popescu: re " warning: Using 'getaddrinfo' in statically linked applications requires at runtime
the shared libraries from
the glibc version used for linking" ascii_field wtf is
that shit !?
nubbins`: wow, a guy just sent me a photograph of a pgp-signed custody document, with a piece of paper over his personal info, saying "this should be enough, preferably you don't need
to know
the other 19 coin addresses"