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asciilifeform: these figures living, as they do, in 'forked worlds'
mircea_popescu: right. and here the same : paste your text as a "review", or publish it on your blog.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i read the foibles of al slightly differently. more as a failure to intellectually detach from usg
asciilifeform: jurov: nope. he wrote it as a propaganda device for his cult
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2015 17:48:00; thestringpuller: probably not your cup of tea because it is an implementation of "communitas" or rather an existential communitas as Victor Turner explains.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2015 10:37:23; punkman: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/02/17/state-department-spokeswoman-floats-jobs-as-answer-to-isis/
asciilifeform: fuck - with the thickest stake in the wallachian forests - the people who brand every idiot ubuntu rebrand as an 'os'
thestringpuller: probably not your cup of tea because it is an implementation of "communitas" or rather an existential communitas as Victor Turner explains. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: That is a great experiment. The PGN format is maximally user and machine readable. Amazing how the blockchain makes some stuff people try to pass as "big data" seem much smaller.
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: the 'adults' are not going to be happy about you writing a program that converts all books in libgen.info + all papers you can get of school networks into a useful format via a combination of OCR and heuristic hackery << Plain OCR is normally sufficient for books without advanced mathematics as long as you are willing to liberate the pages from the spine. Test it with a sheetfed scanner sometime.
asciilifeform: except you don't have a rotor or stator as such, they're dynamically 'moving' via phase shifting
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: basic idea, if you recall, was same as in ordinary ac motor
ben_vulpes: as a guy who's cobbled together the odd machine or two, the notion that you can have a million little bits cooperating to give you the power of a purpose-designed driveshaft one moment and slither through a keyhole the next strikes me as wankery of the first degree.
asciilifeform: (yes i can buy a 4-axis arm from fujitsu, and it'll do same thing as in 1969, whoopie)
asciilifeform: when somebody so much as asks, i'll believe there's life in 'robotics';
asciilifeform: and i use extant academia as an antiwot
asciilifeform: same problem as aids test meaning here, that i'm much more interested in the folks left bugling in the dark
asciilifeform: it has same problem as the aids test
asciilifeform: as in, not at all before
asciilifeform: that is, cribbed 'macsyma' and passed off as own work
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no objection as such, aside from 'gimme'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you didn't end up beaten as a result of this ?
asciilifeform: cribbed from public domain libs, quite unrelated to the actual project, passed off as 'new'
gabriel_laddel: He presented someone else's program as his own. They didn't check, being fuckwits, but eventually found out.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel azn as in indian, but not chinese.
asciilifeform: was commissioned as a recruiting gimmick
asciilifeform: where you get a probability spread as sentence
gabriel_laddel: monkey @ lisp term ?! << outside of that, have you ever seen any program written as "fluidly"? Which comes back to the original discussion of "what is intelligence"
decimation: from the book: “In any case, you are not going to learn tomorrow that all the cognitive differences between races are 100 percent genetic in origin, because the scientific state of knowledge, unfinished as it is, already gives ample evidence that environment is part of the story. But the evidence eventually may become unequivocal that genes are also part of the story. We are worried that the elite wisdom on this issue, for years
asciilifeform: as are a thousand mental dysfunctions most of which haven't even a name
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i gather, intelligence is only slightly heritable, but stupidity - is very
mircea_popescu: 2 is good as is.
mircea_popescu: what part of english as a single language ISNT perpetual and universally equivocal synonymy
mircea_popescu: as opposed to what, finance ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you need a full body containment suit just to survive as a thinking man here.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: this is, as far as I can tell, roughly the equivalent of reading your blog.
mircea_popescu: anyway, whatever would happen would come as a surprise to everyone, including in no particular order : a) the people running btc-usd exchanges ; b) you ; c) the friendly usg log reader delegate ; d) isabelle boring or w/e her name is ; etc
mircea_popescu: what you describe is a what, 3 sigma event ? there's not a plan in place for two sigma events even. banal shit like "they used plane as rocket"
mircea_popescu: for instance i said null hypothesis as part of a deal with my brain to allow me to continue to exist.
asciilifeform: so as to work your hindbrain.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform gabriel_laddel i just parsed it as "a weird way to say mountebanks"
mircea_popescu: "the education which gives a man a clear conscious view of his own opinions and judgments, a truth in developing them, an eloquence in expressing them, and a force in urging them. It teaches him to see things as they are, to go right to the point, to disentangle a skein of thought, to detect what is sophistical, and to discard what is irrelevant."
asciilifeform: in the same sense as the base of a tower is the point maximally far from its tip.
asciilifeform: (or not so happily, as the case may be)
asciilifeform: any who are inclined, as mircea_popescu seems to be, to think that 'any idea can be tested and developed in your cellar' should study the history of semiconductor
mircea_popescu: as if. but somehow, a billion idiots picked this bit of shoeshiner's philosophy as their foundational line.
decimation: yeah in fact the reason the us succeeded as it were for the first hundred years was because there was much empty virgin territory, so people could 'express agency'
decimation: "Over the past few years, the food industry has embarked on an operation it dubs “clean label”, with the goal of removing the most glaring industrial ingredients and additives, replacing them with substitutes that sound altogether more benign." "If you noticed that it contained an amino acid such as L-cysteine E910, your enthusiasm might wane, especially if you happen to know that this additive can be derived from animal and human
decimation: it's as depressing as you would think
decimation: "The strapline for a product called Butter Buds®, described by its makers as “an enzyme-modified encapsulated butter flavour that has as much as 400 times the flavour intensity of butter”, sums it up in six words: “When technology meets nature, you save.”"
mircea_popescu: it's almost as if they deliberately constructed a home away from home, these people.
asciilifeform doesn't publicize so much as a fraction of a percent of what he spends time on
kyuupichan: Got rejected as no zeroconf but they were, so either reconsider or refund, but at the moment as you think zero was sent you won't be refunding anything right?
asciilifeform: incidentally, iirc i also suggested use of microbolometer (aka infrared camera chip die) as a cheapo version of microcalorimeter
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: well, as the resident expert, would you mind expounding on these costs?
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: well, I was asking Stan specifically becuase he could supply detailed information as to costs and political constraints
mircea_popescu: well you asked as to the logisticsa.
gabriel_laddel: so as to demonstrate exactly why it isn't as easy as "just measure the thing"
gabriel_laddel: Not as easy as it sounds. Life is finite, as exemplified by MP not reading Al's experiment spec, and Al not being MP
asciilifeform: al actually spent years battling idiots who 'forked physics' and 'forked chemistry' on usenet, in much the same style as mpoe-pr battled btc sc4mz0rz
mircea_popescu: "This flat, unyielding ignorance-as-the-forerunner-of-oblivion is both perfectly safev and exactly the adequate pill for the poison in dicussion, because it expends very little productive effort on the part of the productive members of society, while at the same time forcing upon the unproductive the exact Gordian knot they've been trying to talk their way around (and plenty, no doubt, hoped they had succeeded). That k
mircea_popescu: imagine! "i won't accidentally discover clorophorm unless it can be used as an anesthetic!"
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: walk where? wants grant money for himself as a result of the discovery?
asciilifeform: al doesn't, as i understand, agree. he wants it to keep walking from there
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: let's gedankenexperiment. say we build the thing and it runs as predicted (see the last chemistry.stackexchange link for what we'd be doing, roughly)
gabriel_laddel: As far as I can tell, it comes down to the basic strategic necessity of killing your enemy when you indend to.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he thought (as of our last at-length exchange, ~3 yrs or so) that he still had a chance to make the torsion balance owners see the light
mircea_popescu: "the enemy" coudl as well be in korea.
asciilifeform: or rather, the question of nonexistence as 'settled'
asciilifeform: and, incidentally, there are other chiralanes possible (you can generate them as computer model, that is. there is, afaik, no known synthesis for any of them)
asciilifeform: (as they typically aren't on a model)
asciilifeform: as i gather, he's engaged in a contest of who-dies-first with adelberger
gabriel_laddel: he isn't giving up, as far as I know, but biding his time
asciilifeform: that is, that a failure for any number of reasons unrelated to the physical prediction - such as my hands growing out of my arse - would set him back (if such a thing were possible) years
asciilifeform: the politics of cyc etc. aside, such projects are about as interesting as the historical proposals to go to the moon in balloons, shooting men from cannons, etc.
gabriel_laddel: my basic understanding of category theory is that there are interesting things that can be derived when you break down basic mathematics into some abstractions such as functors, mappings etc.
asciilifeform: the whole affair went on in its current form far too long for the usual dance of the buggers - 'pretend it never happened' - to go as does
asciilifeform: physics - as a discipline - is 99+% tumour, with scarcely any patient tissue remaining
cazalla: anyone know if i'm missing any from the list? http://i.imgur.com/CFu2wJZ.png just using alexa as one metric, will find others for use in comparison each month going
decimation: asciilifeform: not having an intelligence agency of my own, i regard it as an open question just how usg might behave should it ever begin to lose < My prediction is 'descent into regional civil war'
decimation: asciilifeform: another colleague of mine is shipping his back as we speak - kernel panics every 20min or so << I'm convinced that the 'gpu issue' happens on even more recent macbooks
gabriel_laddel: btw, I was using the word "mooc" the other day, and I think you read it as "mook". I meant "MOOC" as in "massively open online course"
gabriel_laddel: I've nothing else to say. Your grasshopper article coupled with the rabbits exposition covers it all. Don't try and make things into that which they are not. And if you have a kid, care for /them as an individual/. Your life is over. Make way for the next generation.
gabriel_laddel: as to why you killed it and not a wolf?
gabriel_laddel: I might as well explicate my thoughts on the matter, perhaps I'll learn something from someone else who has thought about it.
mircea_popescu: the situation where i never had children yet understand more of parenting than all these people with children depending on them is about as alarming as the situation where i'd not be a woman but know more about fucking than all women. what a shitworld!
gabriel_laddel: "This in turn because they've failed to live, as an actual act in this world, and impose their existence upon those children,so that everyone may be happy. Instead everyone's frustrated."
mircea_popescu: "That'd be your VC circuit : a bunch of old men who have no time to spend with their actual children. They claim this is because "they have to work", but in fact it's because a) they're afraid of their actual children and b) their actual children hate and despise them, in no particular order. This in turn because they've failed to live, as an actual act in this world, and impose their existence upon those children, so
asciilifeform: presently running the pg lulzatron as crown prince
mircea_popescu: i fully expect they elect 15yo christina ricci as the next president.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: local political situation (are the orcs known as such?), number of useful nuclear engineers to take care of the two reactors you've got etc.
asciilifeform: what if, as in mircea_popescu's gedankenexperiment, usg were unable to resupply its men on schedule ?
asciilifeform: not having an intelligence agency of my own, i regard it as an open question just how usg might behave should it ever begin to lose
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the next phase of the disease, as i understand, is to 'turn nero'
asciilifeform: and how 5m wouldn't even appear as a droplet of rain in the seven seas.
gabriel_laddel: (I have a $300 compaq that I prefer to any apple crapware - same one as MP iirc)
gabriel_laddel: feminist computing, about as good as feministfim
asciilifeform: another colleague of mine is shipping his back as we speak - kernel panics every 20min or so
gabriel_laddel: Also, I /don't like/ the macbook retina, fancy as it may be
asciilifeform: but as i gather the urbit folks are occupied primarily with pitching just this elaborate scam on the vc circuit