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Cogburn: i'm okay with that, so long as there is a choice
Cogburn: slavery in our time is a choice
assbot: View the profile of Surf Capital Management ... ( http://bit.ly/1DCutJp )
BingoBoingo: Garret Kierns for the record https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=58893
Cogburn: don't talk to me of slavery if you are paid a wage
trinque: like that time in history where things went nice and easy
asciilifeform: pass the lsd plz.
Cogburn: then things just change on their own
Cogburn: if things are going to change, we first have to stop getting fuced
asciilifeform: Cogburn: from what i read so far, it seems like your 'fix' still involves armed thugs threatening murder to create a 'market.'
BingoBoingo impressed there is so much lag between axe time and sword time
Cogburn: that's what my project aims to do
Cogburn: we can fix that
Cogburn: that's kinda the point
Cogburn: everyone is tired of getting fucked
funkenstein_: musicians are also tired of getting fucked by the riaa
Cogburn: I think that RIAA is tired of getting fucked by new technology and drank their own koolaid.
asciilifeform: the other thing is the political nuance here. when you do business with riaa etc. you are banking that 2025 will contain a world where riaa and the usg it is an affiliate of - are still in business ☟︎
mod6: asciilifeform: so, If I wanna play around, I should try gxemul before qemu?
Cogburn: This is not what I would call a "receptive audience" to my idea.
Cogburn: I understand. I also appreciate where it is that I say these things.
asciilifeform: especially if the sum gets subtracted in human flesh.
asciilifeform: and am not alone in this.
asciilifeform: Cogburn: RIAA project << i for one would only pay even a penny for something riaa-related if it somehow -takes away- at least the same penny from riaa et al. ☟︎
asciilifeform: Cogburn: there are more lucrative ways to fleece idiots, you know
Cogburn: I understand your analogy better than you think.
asciilifeform: and, do the folks -inside- - who paid for their tickets - need them for anything? does the train need them ?
Cogburn: Let's assume my RIAA project is real. Let's assume it happens, and partners with TIDAL for content provision. If 1,000,000 people listen to 3 minute songs for 1 hour, that's 3,000,000+ TX per block in microtransactions.
asciilifeform: now, are they 'passengers' ?
asciilifeform: notice all the folks hanging off the sides, on the roof ?
asciilifeform: or a train
asciilifeform: <Cogburn> that means all those buddies in palo alto that everyone uses will fork to that chain << have you ever seen a tram in the third world ?
Cogburn: I hadn't seen it expressed that way before
asciilifeform: <Cogburn> You know the WoT is basically forensic evidence, right? << it's more of a signed confession than 'forensic' anything. like the american 'declaration of independence.' 'we hang together or hang separately,' etc.
Cogburn: i remember the disagreement. there was someone else in it too... i can't remember
assbot: Logged on 03-04-2015 01:30:49; Cogburn: we disagree. that's not hate.
danielpbarron: when in doubt, check the log -> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-04-2015#1085254 ☝︎
Cogburn: I have no idea what we were talking about
Cogburn: I literally cannot remember the context
assbot: ..::[ The Bitcoin Foundation ]::.. ... ( http://bit.ly/1CBlXID )
asciilifeform: <Cogburn> pun intended? what is bitcoin if not the core reference client? << actually Cogburn is right. it very much -is- the reference client. which lives here: http://therealbitcoin.org
Cogburn: MP and I had a little row at the end of 2013 and I think that's where it stemmed from
trinque: Cogburn: I'm still waiting on an elaboration of this disagreement
danielpbarron: when condensing thoughts into 140 characters i tend to chop out the nice sounding bits leaving only the necessary harsh words
BingoBoingo: <Cogburn> There's always twitter << Stop by again. Just remember on Twitter danielpbarron tends to bite harder than here.
Cogburn: it's a pleasure. i'm glad i did. i didn't realize that people thought i hated MP or something. I don't hate anyone. Life is too short.
Cogburn: There's always twitter
asciilifeform: <nubbins`> simply doing this manually and re-running auto.sh brings me back to... uint32_t ... << aaaaand this is where my patch in turn b0rks the thing. 'the doctor cured the patient's ear, but did poke out an eye, i fear'
Cogburn: I do have things to do
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> lol what even is this. << Rooster Cogburn's a Marshall on the altcoin wild west
asciilifeform: <nubbins`> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=xEsMZtmE << this is actually -correct- behaviour - barfs instead of pulling in system's ssl headers
danielpbarron: some guy who thinks he is a big name in bitcoin but needs to acknowledge that he is currently a nobody in the realm that counts
asciilifeform: lol what even is this.
BingoBoingo: Cogburn: Of all people you might have an interest in sticking your head out here from time to time and getting friendly with people.
danielpbarron: and nobody is forcing you to register your slave name
danielpbarron: anonymity is overrated, and it isn't for the poor anyway
Cogburn: You're welcome, too
trinque: no one connected to the internet on any device that exists has anonymity
Cogburn: For what? People come to my coffee house from bitcoin every few months.
Cogburn: You know the WoT is basically forensic evidence, right?
Cogburn: However I'm already 32 degree freemason, so thank you but no thank you
BingoBoingo: Cogburn: As someone else from the borderlands between the middle west and the middle south of the US I swear the WoT doesn't hurt that much
Cogburn: aww that's really cute
trinque: Cogburn: ...sounds like a great reason to register so that you may retain voice and discuss that with him
danielpbarron: if you want to help, the first step is getting in the WoT
Cogburn: I truly hope MP is interested in this because if he wanted to compete with 21.co I would be very down to help.
danielpbarron: get in the WoT would ya
trinque: and if the economic implications of their fork eventually make the thing worthless, the original will have the posture towards it that it has towards fiat
danielpbarron: they can have their USGcoin
danielpbarron: good for them. seriously good riddance
Cogburn: that means all those buddies in palo alto that everyone uses will fork to that chain
BingoBoingo: <Cogburn> according to consensus, the 70% wins, right? << The beautiful thing about concensus is how many releases have been make since $100+ BTC which must agree
Cogburn: Looking deeper, that's a silicon valley brain child
danielpbarron: the consensus of whom? you still have to sell those 100m coins
funkenstein_: $120m to make orphans
Cogburn: but that's a single entity
Cogburn: according to consensus, the 70% wins, right?
danielpbarron: do i care that hundreds of altcoins exist? nope.
Cogburn: so there's now 2 bitcoins
danielpbarron: i'm gonna keep running my node that ignores their invalid blocks
funkenstein_: reject the blocks
danielpbarron: if you think socialism is good, then bitcoin is evil to you
Cogburn: let's say they end up to comprise 70% of the network
Cogburn: 21.co get $120m to make ASICs
Cogburn: there's an article from late 2013 and i wish i could find it entitled "What if Bitcoin turned Evil?"
funkenstein_: what is the internet if not microsoft IE?
danielpbarron: Cogburn, the reference client is here
funkenstein_: Alert keys. I hope somebody pushes a cosbycoin message through someday :)
Cogburn: pun intended? what is bitcoin if not the core reference client?
danielpbarron: gavin has the attention poor people who think that talking about bitcoin makes them a part of it somehow
trinque: these clowns are no more "the bitcoin guys" than anyone else
trinque: no problem, but that is the core of the issue
BingoBoingo: Cogburn> gavin has the keys. he's "that guy" << Thermos also has a copy of the "Keys"
trinque: Cogburn: with nothing grounding it to reality
danielpbarron: the ones snipped from the code because they mean nothing?
Cogburn: gavin has the keys. he's "that guy"
danielpbarron: gavin is the one threatening a fork
danielpbarron: what?? he has threatened no such thing
Cogburn: many people. i fully support his threat to fork bitcoin if gavin's block expansion goes through. he's 100% correct that it is an economic alteration to the network and not simple technical
Cogburn: MP doesn't have the market cornered on being crazy. some of us are just fucking nuts as he is. just not as rich. yet.