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mircea_popescu: the point asciilifeform doesn't appreciate here is that i'd much rather spend 10k to sue forbes over a missatributed story than spend 10k to buy "clicks" on facebook or w/e.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, nice, i'll hold off responding to this daniel roberts fellow and see what comes of yours
asciilifeform: 'GCHQ has consistently underperformed on Brazil, with growing concerns that Sth [sic] American attitudes on the Falklands are swinging behind Argentina....'
cazalla: i looked for a legal contact, not finding anything, might have to be sent to time inc as they appear to own fortune.com
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ^ this is still a thing!? l0l!
asciilifeform: http://cryptome.org/2015/04/nsa-gchq-jtrig-intercept-15-0402.pdf << mega-l0l. nsa/gchq spam campaigns to drum up support for british colonial falklands vs. argentina claim.
mircea_popescu: they don't as much as have a fucking legal address on the site, anything.
mircea_popescu: if that is true, that is to their detriment.
asciilifeform: but not in the mail
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not a matter of i expect to get that head. i am getting that head.
asciilifeform: if someone steals his golden toilet, and thief answers 'i did not claim it was mine, just took it' ?
mircea_popescu: cazalla i'd say they'd banned from qntra, and we just rewrite their breaking stuff without credit given, but then again they've not broken anything since like the 80s, they just rewrite random feeds.
asciilifeform: the 'we did not claim they broke the news' thing is pure gold.
asciilifeform: or what, mircea_popescu expects to get in the mail a package with the head of the fella who signed the 'do not cite qntra' memo taped on 'fortune' monkeys' cubicles ?
asciilifeform: judge will say 'hated terrorist vs. fortune co.' 'case closed.'
mircea_popescu: da fuck do i care what the idiot has to say lmao.
asciilifeform: cazalla, mircea_popescu: toldya they'd say 'pound sand'
mircea_popescu: do they indicate where to send process ?
asciilifeform: 'https://ninjadoge24.github.io/#002-how-i-cracked-nq-vaults-encryption / CTIA - "The Best App of CTIA by the Techlicious 2012 Best of CTIA Awards" / PC Magazine - "PC Magazine Best Apps" / TRUSTe - Received "TRUSTe Privacy Seal" / Global Mobile Internet Conference App Space - "A top 50 app" ......... Looks like a substitution cipher. What if it's just XOR? Like just fuckin' XOR?'
cazalla: mircea_popescu, i got a response from fortune, not the one i was hoping for either
asciilifeform: 'VELENTZAS also told the UC that she was progressing in her electrical studies and had used a solder tool to solder copper wires together, although VELENTZAS had suffered a small burn on her finger in the process. The UC observed a burn mark on VELENTZAS's finger.'
mircea_popescu: but hey, the us is solving its homeless population, and the un doesn't even seem to notice or anything.
mircea_popescu: i would imagine by now the number of retarded people being abused through this scandalous mockery of law exceeds the "sex offenders"
mircea_popescu: you have got to be kidding me.
asciilifeform: 'On or about October 24, 2014, VELENTZAS viewed on her cellular telephone YouTube videos about a beginner's tutorial for soldering, tools and steps for soldering and de-soldering, how to solder wires together, how to solder a circuit board, common soldering mistakes, and introduction to flux, a product used in soldering tasks.'
asciilifeform does not recall 'fighting sperm' but there was the gradient-following thing
asciilifeform: (though modern data suggests they have flock dynamics and pheromonal strange, like ants)
trinque: though I wish I understood the saudi/iran dynamic more
mircea_popescu: if that's not piss...
mircea_popescu: golden rain tho.
trinque: I wouldn't expect them to continue to exist if/when that kicks off
trinque: it's too early in the morning for this zen shit
asciilifeform: go try respect a puddle
asciilifeform: when the ancients anthropomorphisized nature and 'respected', e.g., the sea, it was because it was -indomitable-
mircea_popescu: but we were discussing agency rather than techne here
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well yeah, if they actually were intellectually respectable i'd prolly be there.
trinque: not in terms of thinking creatures, though
asciilifeform: trinque: forest fires can't be tricked and tripped like a child.
asciilifeform: trinque: atheist kalash is also from satan, doesn't prevent the 'doublethink'
trinque: maybe they're respectable like one respects a forest fire
asciilifeform: i'll respect when they build so much as one mosfet. or a hydro plant. or own radar array. or at least stop using fucking caesar ciphers.
mircea_popescu: part of why isis seems respectable where the usarmy does not.
mircea_popescu: oic. yes, they should. and they actually do.
asciilifeform: anyone recall the folk tale where the headsman is ordered to chop own head ?
trinque: the them!
Chillum: failure to plan for failure is the ultimate failure
mats: ought to have properly executed every last baathist.
mircea_popescu: they'll revert and you'll be out of the loop soon enough.
trinque: maybe Chillum is referring to what happened in Iraq for example, where former baathists end up in ISIS
mircea_popescu: you're merely stating that you're not really the new boyfriend.
mircea_popescu: consider the matter in terms you're better equipped to handle. if, upon breaking up a girl with her former boyfriend, you institute a policy that she may fuck him whenever,
Chillum: I intend to be eaten by wolves
asciilifeform: Chillum: we all get eaten by worms in the end. why not start now. right ?
mircea_popescu: Chillum it's a stupider idea than you realise.
Chillum: want to set a precedent
Chillum: If I was involved in the formation of a new regime I would institute a policy of mercy on the old regime. If only because any new regime is likely to be taken over by the next
mircea_popescu: that really has no bearing on the case here.
asciilifeform: if the law gets scrapped and re-written every time the throne changes hands - what is the law ?
mircea_popescu: if tomorrow it is discovered bharara was acting under mere color of law,
asciilifeform: except the cock's on the other pudenda now.
mircea_popescu: depends on how the stuff was formalised.
asciilifeform: but what's with the dress-up games. if tomorrow yesterday's victor and vanquished switch places - the former doesn't get to whine about 'violations'
mircea_popescu: it's just, unlike things are and remain unlike.
asciilifeform: i mean i get the basic idea, 'to the victor - the spoils, to the vanqushed - the tears'
mircea_popescu: otherwise we'll start having to take back the ilk of shrem because hey, "they torched his house".
asciilifeform: the commerce between the arsonist and his victim is not commerce.
mircea_popescu: it makes no difference. don't want to sell, don't sell.
mircea_popescu: these are unequal things. commerce is between equal parties. employment is between unequal parties.
asciilifeform: if i'm only 'selling' for a penny because you torched my house the day before - then yes, took.
mircea_popescu: also not their problem.
asciilifeform: crown gave - crown took.
mircea_popescu: not their problem.
mircea_popescu: they didn't, yoiu know, take employment with the govt.
mircea_popescu: well, the papers show they bought and sold.
asciilifeform: how did the dekulakized folks in ru make their dough ?
mircea_popescu: "steal from the public" is what, microsoft ? jp manufacturer of resistors ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not different at all. <mircea_popescu> anything anyone owns on the grounds of having interacted with a government is to be taken outright.
asciilifeform: which 'oligarch' didn't steal 'his' money from the public in ru ?
trinque: asciilifeform: what has you so convinced your head is going to roll?
mircea_popescu: ya ya, except if you become an "oligarch", then they invent imaginary arears and steal your shit.
mircea_popescu: they have taxes in russia too don';t they ?
asciilifeform: and then some
asciilifeform: jurov: mr o takes half of what i make.
jurov: alf whines all the time about as if obama took something from him.. so i'm trying to compare
asciilifeform: jurov: what thing of yours did mr p take? i'd like to hear the full story here
mircea_popescu: which is why i write about people like bfl on trilema, but not about any one of the countless heists.
mircea_popescu: it's one thing to be a thief, it's another to pretend not to be a thief.
jurov: aha. and why it's so important that putin "didn't write", but just takes as he seems fit without elaborating on paper?
mircea_popescu: "here's how much you group of criminals owe. the pay is X an hour. get busy."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i can see a plan to have everyone who ever worked for a government shipped to the salt mines until the whole sum is made back.
Chillum: feed them shit, keep them in the dark
Chillum: feed it to the mushrooms
asciilifeform: except thermodynamics gets in the way
asciilifeform: perhaps converse is to be inserted as well - anything that one -lost- from interacting with government, ought to be returned.
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> anything anyone owns on the grounds of having interacted
jurov: and that's not "having interacted"?
mircea_popescu: all the time.
jurov: you ever paid any taxes?
mircea_popescu: which is why i don't have to report my fortune etc.
mircea_popescu: that's their problem.