498600+ entries in 0.321s
mircea_popescu: because i can not understand what it does on
the basis of what it is.
ben_vulpes: because it does not come complete with everything required for it
to run, and depends on state of local machine doing
the compiling?
mircea_popescu: (if you
think about it, you realise how "doesn't build statically" is === "code is not available")
mircea_popescu: that it builds statically when instructed
to build statically.
mircea_popescu: and yes
that means dns is not implemented. which it isn't, whether
this kludge is available or not.
ben_vulpes: what are
the criteria for 'packagehood'?
mircea_popescu: because it does not meet
the criteria for what a package is.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "linked at all" << (bear with my unsavvy, please) so gcc instructed
to build statically should fail
to link libnss because it dynamically links
to system libs, but gcc instructed
to build dynamicall should not fail under
these conditions?
nubbins`: mircea_popescu guy has 17(?) albums, he knows a
thing or
two
mircea_popescu: nubbins` he has
the right idea,
too much lazy
thinking around.
nubbins`: ben_vulpes which libs does it dynamically link
to?
nubbins`: mp
that quote was from
the guy who did
the bird books i've posted pictures of
mircea_popescu: then rms has
to catch hell about "not supporting lldb". how about you know,
taking libnss
the fuck out with a hot poker.
mircea_popescu: the bug discovered in gcc is
that it allows libnss
to even be linked AT ALL.
ben_vulpes: and
the bug discovered in gcc is
that it *warns* about
this but does not die when run with static compile flags?
ben_vulpes: so
the 'static' build i produced on my deb 6 VM wasn't *truly* static, but claimed
to be even
though it dynamically linked into libnss on whatever system on which it ran successfully?
nubbins`: "If you are making a web video, or a documentary, or a podcast and you're picking music
to go with it, do me a favor and
think
to yourself "could
this music be used in a bank commercial? Or a
Target ad?" And if
the answer is "yes" please pick something else."
nubbins` attempts
to cross-compile static bitcoind again
trinque: or you can just genkernel it up and you'll end up with something
that'll probably boot
trinque: though of course look over
the config yourself and see if it's sane
trinque: ben_vulpes: what's your vm
thing?
trinque: yeah so probably defaults
to start,
then use flags.. all you're gonna need
to worry about
ben_vulpes: trinque: VM. no metal in
this hobbit-hole not running macbsd.
trinque: until you have
the use flags and keywords you want
trinque: also I'd just go into it expecting
that you'll emerge -avuDN @world over and over again
trinque: ben_vulpes: is
this for a VM or metal?
trinque: ben_vulpes:
there's no real concept of a "release" aside from
the version of
the base layout
nubbins`: i don't know if
there's any particular advantage
to using an older version of
the base os
nubbins`: any
tools you wanna use afterwards (e.g. vintage gcc etc) can be grabbed
through portage
ben_vulpes: nubbins`,
trinque: any particular vintage of gentoo recommended?
ben_vulpes sacrifices
today on
the altar of lizard hitler
trinque: ben_vulpes: probably best
to just do whatever's in
that first,
then blowtorch crud after you have a working system
trinque: I haven't been
through
the handbook in a while
nubbins`: ah, i just followed
the handbook
trinque: you use sysvinit? or is
that meant
to keep you from getting an old version of openrc?
trinque: nubbins`: what are you masking related
to openrc?
trinque: removed
that, installed eudev
trinque: lemme see what I did about
that per asciilifeform's suggestion
trinque: you will in
the default profile end up with systemd's udev
though
trinque: you'd have
to choose a systemd profile which is not
the default
nubbins`: "The remainder of
the Gentoo Handbook focuses on OpenRC as
the default init support system. If systemd is wanted instead, or are planning
to use Gnome 3.8 and later (which requires systemd), please consult
the systemd page as it elaborates on
the different configuration settings and methods."
nubbins`: like
trinque says, you have
to explicitly choose systemd
nubbins`: pick your arch at
the
top and go ahead
nubbins`: let me find
the guide i followed
ben_vulpes: i'm looking for
the 'how
to gentoo without systemd for noobs' link
☟︎ nubbins`: so
the poor vm has half of a core 2 duo and 4gb ram
nubbins`: anyway,
this is all on a 7yo laptop
nubbins`: and various other
things like uboot, w/e
nubbins`: that's
to compile a cross-toolchain, and a kernel with rootfs
ben_vulpes: is
that
to compile buildroot itself or using buildroot
to compile linuxen?
trinque: nubbins`: I'm gonna need a cork board with pins and string at
this point
trinque: ben_vulpes:
that's an *excellent* business idea
nubbins`: here's
the shared libs
that 0.5.3.1 on darwin hauls in:
trinque: er...
there aren't instructions, just do
the !register command
nubbins`: i might have
to switch over
to Ritter Sport
☟︎ nubbins`: compared
to cadbury chocolate, hershey's is like dollar-store easter eggs
nubbins`: could
this be
the end of Jersey Milk bars?!
nubbins`: asciilifeform is actually ready
to believe
that chocolate is delicious more or less everywhere outside of
the anglo reich <<< canadian Cadbury chocolate contains british milk
whaack: !rate asciilifeform 1 appears
to be good at comp. security
gabriel_laddel: <mircea_popescu> gabriel_laddel he's very
tender on
the
topic for some reason. <<
the lady doth protest
too much, methinks
whaack: i just got a new laptop (well a new old laptop) installed linux,
took out wireless comm, and got a gpg key generated offline
mircea_popescu: im
thinking one pound. because you shouldn't be able
to put away more
than
that in a weekend.
mircea_popescu: you recall how conference 2 had local champagne ?
this will have local chocolate instead.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but we're not using
the wallet code in 0.5.3
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel anyway, i'll bet you i'll have him publicly recant his soviet chocolate cant.
the chocolate here... o mai gawd.
mircea_popescu: if
there isn't another heartbleed in
there, someone's been slacking on
their job.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
they managed
to create
the perfect fucking beast yo. a nsa package
that ruins free and open software, nobody knows about and apparently nobody maintains or ever maintained.
mircea_popescu: (thick black hair -
think kardashian, a fine specimen)
mircea_popescu: just as much an ethnotype as
the
turkic heavy ass set.
mircea_popescu: ru chicks, and especially small ru (ie, ukrainian) chicks grow
tall, slender, and with
this very specific b cup
mircea_popescu: men not speaking of children has resulted in
the current disaster.
gabriel_laddel: Lol,
this has been discussed so much I've actually a list of foods
to bribe stas with
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel he's very
tender on
the
topic for some reason.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: We're not discussing you
though. We're discussing whaack