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assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 16:50:58;
trinque: I don't want decisions made for me; I want bricks laid for me.
mircea_popescu: so it's done once not just at level you, but at
the whole wot level.
assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 14:14:53; ascii_modem:
that part
takes me 1h at most. it is deliberately manual, like
the sub reactors, or
therealbitcoin
mircea_popescu: it was pretty clear at
the
time
the ru "sanctions" were nailgun suicide.
Birdman: Then I suppose I should read up on
the logs,
thanks.
mircea_popescu: this is not exactly new. was discussed here back in
the lead-up
to
the cn-ru financial compact
Birdman: Apparently nations are falling head over heels
to switch over
mircea_popescu: marginally amusing read, stuff like
http://www.kalzumeus.com/2015/03/09/announcing-starfighter/ (grep for "Sounds like BS, right. I know. I’m a generic web programmer (yay Ruby, meh JavaScript, boo low-level anything).
The last
time I played a CTF, written by my cofounders,
they had me breaking into locks controlled by micro controllers which ran embedded assembly code.")
mircea_popescu: (you can
trace Patrick McKenzie / starfighter if you feel like it0
mircea_popescu: it is kind-of fascinating for me
that
they were actually
this unprepared for gavin getting headshot.
mircea_popescu: pretense
to
the contrary is just
that, pretense, readily explained by
the desperation in usg quarters post
their loss of
their main asset in here.
mircea_popescu: it's entirely untrue, and a poor attempt at
trying
to salvage some clout for
the power rangers.
nubbins`: absent
title: "the bitcoin protocol doesn't exist"
BingoBoingo: mats: "The packages, at 4 inches by 6 inches, are not easily concealed, he said. And because of
the single-use packaging, he said, it would be easier
to spike a punchbowl with a large bottle of rum." << I was
telling people you wouldn't lose volume by powdering
the stuff
nubbins`: mildly annoying
that i've got a binary but can't reproduce
the process
nubbins`: i
think i'm maybe just ripping one or
two
things
too many out of it
nubbins`: anyway,
the general idea is
to use bcp
to rip everything out of boost
that doesn't belong
there
nubbins`: man for
the life of me i can't reproduce
these build steps
danielpbarron: not
that gentoo can't do
those
things, but
the installer is actually somewhat automated
danielpbarron: if you're used
to debian, OpenBSD isn't such a jarring experience
assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 05:52:05; mircea_popescu: because it is unacceptable for a world
to exist where i may have
to spend more
than an hour getting a new os running.
ben_vulpes: hafta upgrade from os x 10.9
to 10.10
to cut ios builds
nubbins`: i did
this by running make nconfig after make pogoplug_defconfig and adding
them manually
nubbins`: if you want
to be able
to build bitcoind with your buildroot
toolchain, you'll have
to add a few options
to
the config
ben_vulpes: awww shit yee i have sshd into
the gentoo box!
ben_vulpes: nubbins`: i have an enp0s3 as well, don't really know what
to do
to
turn it into/use it as eth0
tho
Apocalyptic: ^ only for
that fact alone it's a good experience
☟︎ ben_vulpes: but hory shit have i learned
things about
the linux shitpile
nubbins`: would be nice
to get some people
to
test
this patch when it's ready
☟︎ nubbins`: has anyone besides me and alf attempted
the portatronic buildroot?
assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 05:54:27;
trinque: someone could solve
this; gentoo has
this neckbeard orthodoxy which imo is
the only
thing preventing it from having a proper installer
trinque: ascii_modem |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-04-2015#1089297 << lol installer?!! as in copying other folks' bins over? ick << nah, just bash script
that plonks you into a partition editor,
then a list of architectures,
then has you pick a stage, etc; script
the scriptable parts of
the manual, and leave everything
that should be.. manual :D
☝︎ mircea_popescu: pls
to make a proper patch in full glory so people can benefit from fruits of your genius.
nubbins`: imagine, i
thought i left
this life behind.
nubbins`: but i don't
think it's a *terrible* idea for our install script
to only compile
the parts of boost
that we need
nubbins`: or if
they'd rather do it manually as needed
nubbins`: also
the bcp stuff could
totally be included in same, not sure if
this is something people want
nubbins`: ok fwiw
that auto.sh does have problems, i'll
try
to polish it later
nubbins`: i'm gonna
try
this all from scratch once more just
to verify
nubbins`: you'll need
to use bcp (see logs)
to
trim out
the fat and gristle
nubbins`: please note
the Boost section -- i'm using a custom subset of
the full boost libs
mircea_popescu: yeah apparently uclibc is made specifically because of
this/similar issues
decimation: apparently uclibc has a dns client
that opens /etc/resolv.conf itself, built into
the code
mats: well ofc provably preventing
the exploit is preferable. PaX like a custom Gentoo build, relying on
the attacker not knowing it's
there, and/or failing
to react accordingly
nubbins`: so
that's static bitcoind, running on pogotron, built with portatronic
toolchain.
nubbins`: but i
think
this is sufficient proof, yes?
nubbins`: no storage attached at all, so i can't
tell if it, y'know, does anything
decimation: although
the question of what it does with gethostbyaddr() is a good one
nubbins`: ascii_modem actually it was
the client side
that baffled me, heh.
assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 14:21:21; nubbins`: w/e
the libnss
thing is. details escape me now.
decimation: well, it does need rpmbuild at least, it would probably be difficult
to work without redhat
nubbins`: /home/ftp #
tftp 192.168.2.23 just spits out usage instructions
ascii_modem: decimation:
the source rpm still needs rathead
to build
assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 05:43:38; mircea_popescu: ie, my way out of swallowing random binary strange is
to get a solid block of binary strange ? from... red hat ?
ascii_modem: i still want
to know why gentoo has
the only honest (re: stdint) gcc !
ascii_modem: though i'm pretty sure it left a dns
turd in somewhere - so a bit odd,
this
nubbins`: oh right, yeah,
the dns-snip patch killed
that
nubbins`: w/e
the libnss
thing is. details escape me now.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: what was bitcoind using
that ended up pulling libnss via glibc ? gethostbyaddr() was it ?
assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 05:55:23; mircea_popescu: sure, someone could.
the moment someone does you get ubuntu -
two years of unusable, six months of barely usable and
then insta-poettering.
ascii_modem: that part
takes me 1h at most. it is deliberately manual, like
the sub reactors, or
therealbitcoin
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and i'm not counting whatever it
takes
to compile. just, it is not sane
to expect me
to go
through laundry lists for minute after minute after minute.
assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 05:54:27;
trinque: someone could solve
this; gentoo has
this neckbeard orthodoxy which imo is
the only
thing preventing it from having a proper installer
mircea_popescu: i didn't say it should
take YOU an hour. i said it should
take me an hour.
assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 05:52:05; mircea_popescu: because it is unacceptable for a world
to exist where i may have
to spend more
than an hour getting a new os running.
ascii_modem: i find it odd
that mircea_popescu does not handle linux in same way as lathe or - hell - dental work
nubbins`: if you want
to complete
the picture,
tell me your handshake is limp and clammy
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> a lathe is
the essence of unusable. <<< o.O i bet you have soft hands
ascii_modem: me, i find all
those -other- distros,
the ones
that insist on littering my disk with all
those bins i didn't ask for and
that werent built in my home - unusable
ascii_modem: mircea_popescu: gentoo is not so much a 'usable linux' as a -machine for building a usable linux-. sorta like 'buildroot'. would you also say
that, e.g., a lathe - is 'unusable' ?
nubbins`: <+cazalla> danielpbarron, ha check it out,
that freebsdgirl ya had it out with on
twitter got swatted <<<
this imo is explicit admission by her enemies
that
they have no external genitalia
nubbins`: now it's happening when i
try
to (re-)compile bdb rather
than when i
try
to compile bitcoind
nubbins`: try ifconfig
to see if yours is same