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ascii_field: mircea_popescu is, i think, accustomed to smashing idiots' skulls and instinctively reaches for the designated hammer. but i'm not an idiot and don't expect things.
mircea_popescu: you don't want to be in start-ups, don't. do not expect you get to open your mouth.
mircea_popescu: you don't want to do webwork, don't. do not expect any sort of actual pay.
mircea_popescu: you are stubbornly missing here that what you'd like the world to be does not matter one whit, and whatever way you dress that masturbation up doesn't change its masturbatory content.
mircea_popescu: i don;t.
ascii_field: but i thought mircea_popescu didn't care for those
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as he doesn't get to put his name on the thing.
mircea_popescu: oh, i don't recall, 200 pesos for the labour or something it was
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: wasn't speaking of 'salary types'
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i don't think it is 'emo' to question my priorities when, after giving away my work to apparent applause for a year, i mention starving and audience suggests 'web dev'
ascii_field: i don't see the connection
ascii_field: the ones that don't reference items in the sea of c shit - work.
mircea_popescu: i don't even like science fiction.
mircea_popescu: i pointedly couldn't care less.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't, personally, give a rats ass either way. if yes, sure. if not, whatever, i have no problems riding a horse.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317412 << and mcdonalds' existence has kept alive a great many people that belonged dead. and all this has some ~statistical~ influences. it is not relevant on a case by case basis and it can't be an excuse for you. ☝︎
ascii_field: also we don't need z80 for anything.
mircea_popescu: and no, i wont bother the bitfury guy, or anyone actually involved in doing things with this inept nonsense. for the same reason i shouldn't have queried ben_vulpes yest.
ascii_field: and you can't package in a kitchen.
ascii_field: they won't package or test or guarantee so much as 1 working unit.
ascii_field: those ain't cpus
mircea_popescu: umd will let you tack on 100 cpus to some prototype run they got, won't it ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field we can make 100 cpus TODAY, and on tech that didn't even exist in 1960.
mircea_popescu: that stupid bitch didn't look like something dogs would fuck
mircea_popescu: well i can't find it. anyway, fucktarded outdoor thing in ba, "siempre se vuelve al primer amor" trying to sell italian classes. depicts an ugly chick in flats holding a huge red heart.
ascii_field: don't have the thread handy, but at one point i explained how computing is tricky because its very existence as its current thing - that is, vlsi - is predicated on mass uptake
mircea_popescu: no, they couldn't.
mircea_popescu: this is like saying "abundance makes lazy apes want to watch tv". guess what ? it doesn't have to! nobody forces you to misuse your freedom!
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317411 << this, ftr, is deeply wrong. pluralism does not suffer because "mass markets". it would benefit from them, if the [people who were supposed to be the] elite weren't fucktards. ☝︎
jurov: !t m s.qntr
mircea_popescu: maybe phf, but the dude's not even bothered to collect the pile of mushrooms he earned doing i don't recall what for eulora
ascii_field: (7 is black magic and i won't even come near it)
mircea_popescu: well we can't hire mod6 mostly because if we do the foundation ends.
mircea_popescu: Thing 5. We're trying to create a sane os. This led to gentoo being cut open, libc being cut open, gcc being cut open, and we're still barfing at the results. I don't even want to think about it.
mircea_popescu: but the spots on my spleen were because we can't seem to pin this down for five minutes.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317323 << i think this is a drastic reduction that entirely misses the point. i'm generally careful not to discuss things i don't understand. ☝︎
ascii_field: and no, i don't expect any takers. and don't intend to 'emo' the non-takers
ascii_field: anyway my objective wasn't to 'emo' people - recall, i have two bits of emotion register.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i appreciate the sentiment, i really do, it's pure love "oh im sorry i couldn't do more". fine, but don't let it consume you.
ascii_field: wouldn't surprise me
mircea_popescu: and as always is the case in life, if one doesn't manage to make one thing work, one'll sooner or later meet the same thing later on, with worse downside and less upside.
mircea_popescu: if i cared what kenyans value anything i might ask them. as it is, they don't even get a voice in blockchain size.
mircea_popescu: you asked me. if you weren't looking for an answer, wh yask me ?
mircea_popescu: your notion that "oh, what is my participation in B's cool worth" is akin to the dumb polack chick in A going "what are my good looks worth, i can't make hollywood rent control"
mircea_popescu: you can't be in this cast if you can't make rent. and no, wondering "What my youthfull good looks are worth" does not work with that show
ascii_field doesn't get the ref
mircea_popescu: you're approximately in the position of a 20something woman who wants to be part of the cast of friends but doesn't have the rent.
mircea_popescu: you can't sell it. if you keep it functioning well and in good shape, you can have an empire on the basis of it.
phf: i don't know what that means, money's not cool, it's barelly adequate at purchasing cool (a highly debatable point)
ben_vulpes: there's an old thread around the shop: "ain't nobody motivated by money in the bank"
ben_vulpes: doesn't necessarily mean it's -ev to advertise, just that someone else is deriving value from your media buys as well.
trinque: do you benefit from a world where bitcoin functions or don't you?
ascii_field: see, it is this 'noble' thing that i don't grasp
trinque: sure, that market distortions happen doesn't mean they don't happen in a useful direction. it only means that other things will suffer greatly, that things are imbalanced.
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: we are speaking of cases where there isn't even an 'it' prior.
phf: luckily for you today only you can get a new and improved PATCH from me that will at least let you create context, since i only finished it like last night, i don't yet know if it will actually encrypt, but it might
ben_vulpes: !t m s.qntr
ben_vulpes: !t m s.nsa
ben_vulpes: !t s.nsa
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: I don't follow. again, as though I were five?
ascii_field: these aren't things.
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: don't mind me, i'm just trying to learn the violin.
ascii_field: and you can't somehow beat microshit and crapple by competing on an imaginary playing field
ascii_field: and all questions of os aside, you will need to bake own silicon if you don't like running usg blobs.
PeterL: wouldn't that make strings take up twice as much memory?
ascii_field: but what if - per last night's thread - you decided that you DON'T WANT TO REPRESENT STRINGS AS CONTIGUOUS BYTES ?
phf: thestringpuller: it wasn't actually forced. started as a final project in william arbaugh's (the guy who did the smooth handover wireless implementation at umd) class, where we were writing a malloc for the teaching os as a final project, only three mallocs came anywhere near the spec, since mine was one of them i had the opportunity to say that the whole thing was a sham "shit code written by retards", etc. and that you can have orders
mircea_popescu: ascii_field god damned weren't you going on about how it needs sbcl machine bla bla ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i don't hate'em, but i did search in vain for signs that somebody was ~thinking~ rather than merely piling intel xeons ten metres high
mircea_popescu: ascii_field so you hate them, that's fine, but you can't impugn the whole subdiscipline just because idiots somewhere
mircea_popescu: of course it doesn't. it's engineering.
mircea_popescu: this is like complaining electric engineering didn't invent any new type of electron.
ascii_field: poor old j.c.maxwell gets no rest when this comes up, but i'ma have to use him as example again. he didn't even bother ~trying~ to build a radio...
mircea_popescu: i don't care you sat on your tatched roof in mongolia and thus "dreamed" of skyscraper.
PeterL: but without the 17th floor you can't build the 18th floor
ascii_field: 'fundamental' is an actual thing. it doesn't resolve to 'very spiffy', it has a meaning
ascii_field: didn't say 'useless'
ascii_field: and it - for the most part - isn't happening.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: yer looking in the wrong end of the funnel. yes, women still wear stockings, but american south no longer can have plantations, because the fiber doesn't grow out of the ground.
PeterL: There is also chemistry research at, for example, Dow Chemical, which they don't publish but instead use to make themselves money, does this not count?
mircea_popescu: my god, ceo is going to go the way of nigger and handicapped within my lifetime isn't it.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't think it's worth a crap in absolute terms.
mircea_popescu: <jurov> i tried to sync my 0.5.4 to core 0.11, it won't sync << this is a horribru error message.
shinohai: I can't say for certain until I clone my drive, had to idle it for a bit.
shinohai: I can't get core to not crash 0.11 xD
shinohai: jurov: I have had same results. it won't sync against new core.
jurov: i tried to sync my 0.5.4 to core 0.11, it won't sync ☟︎
asciilifeform: guess what, i don't give milk either.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this "can't have X, can't have non-X" sorta thing will necessarily resolve itself in time. there's no other way.
asciilifeform: at any rate, i must confess that i don't do www or ipnohe for any amount of pay.
mircea_popescu: there should, i imagine, be a way to extract significant cheating out of the fact that we don't intend to support random gunk.
asciilifeform: (don't guarantee any arbitrary allocs whenever, but only bignums and only in strictly defined progression)
asciilifeform: because the pc, unlike the lisp, doesn't have 'broken hearts'
mircea_popescu: but they can't.
mircea_popescu: because why ? and don't say gfx card.
mircea_popescu: these aren't abstractions as much as they are infections.
asciilifeform: reading this thing i - astonishingly - don't feel like i'm chewing on gravel
asciilifeform: isn't it a marvel, what these looked like before the cancer ?
asciilifeform: so no, won't bet.
asciilifeform: i don't personally expect to see 2019.