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trinque: +nubbins` | like, say, the lineup at the dick-scissor store. < ahahha
nubbins`: trinque it kinda seems like you're arguing people cut their dicks off /on a whim/
Chillum: asciilifeform: I am for a larger place to live, then I will be getting one. Will certainly be doing a lot of research first
nubbins`: like, say, the lineup at the dick-scissor store.
asciilifeform: Chillum: you will find that, large or small, the cost of the cooling and ventilation apparatus will approach the cost of the machine itself.
Chillum: true but beyond a certain power other types of lasers make more sense
trinque: nubbins`: this gets into "everything's relative" and I don't really subscribe to that
asciilifeform: Chillum: you can buy arbitrarily large co2 tube.
Chillum: but zapping off 1-2mm thick layers of anodization is doable
Chillum: cutting metal is a no-go for co2 lasers, not going to spend 20k+ on a metal cutter
asciilifeform: the tech has not changed.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: tube lasers cost roughly what they cost 30 years ago,.
nubbins`: sure. he could simply decide fuck this, i don't want this dick, what good's it anyway, too
Chillum: could work. The problem is that everyone needs their own laser cutter as you cannot trust another to make a key for you
asciilifeform: Chillum: at any rate, you need a very expensive tube before you can actually cut metals, vs. a thin coat of anodized.
trinque: nubbins`: he could simply decide that he is going to ask for the thing, and do it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you could make the dots 1 sqcm
mircea_popescu: actually the bronze age items will still be imperceptibly altered long after new york is barely a flat spot in the sediment record.
asciilifeform: bronze -items- not little scratches thereon.
nubbins`: like how the salaryman declares himself to be confident before asking for the promotion?
Chillum: there are bronze items going back to... well the bronze age
Chillum: mircea_popescu: if it can be anodized then bronze would be a great way to go
Chillum: aluminum insulates itself from corrosion once it gets a thin layer
trinque: nubbins`: by magical thinking I mean the kind which simply tries to declare things to be other than they are
asciilifeform: Chillum: cut something that is actually thick
mircea_popescu: bronze is the most durable thing we have.
nubbins`: Chillum i think you can
Chillum: it has the advantage of being extremely durable
nubbins`: this is right before the "FOREVER"
mircea_popescu: Chillum if you could get it to work on bronze...
Chillum: I have been looking into laser cutters. I have seen this aluminum with a black anodized layer. The laser can blast off the black layer to give strong contrasting metal images. I am thinking it may be a good way to make very long term(decades) bitcoin wallets
mircea_popescu: yeah, because god forbid their stupid "mind" ie narciself ever has to adapt to anything.
trinque: asciilifeform: I agree up to the point where they try to make the body fit the "mind"
trinque: that's what I mean, able to rationalize it
asciilifeform: trinque: not consider my body to be "me" << fwiw, this is how the shrinkature describes it
mircea_popescu: just... why the fuck would i.
mircea_popescu: trinque im certainly able to cut the whole lot off.
nubbins`: trinque what about "thinking" is not magical to you?
trinque: seems like magical thinking just as bad as any religious nut
mircea_popescu: im sure they already do it in the ghetto.
trinque: I think I'd have to not consider my body to be "me" to be able to cut off a finger..
asciilifeform: i wouldn't be certain that it will be very long before 'muti' is introduced in usa
asciilifeform: tales of stolen organs pre-date the invention of transplantation
mircea_popescu: and they tricked him with a rare stamp, guy lost a kidney.
nubbins`: he tracks his dad down, they argue, dad pushes him out a 7th floor window, paralyzing him
mircea_popescu: actually, i now recall there was this ancient... czech maybe ? film, about a stamp collector
nubbins`: john wakes up in the recovery room after donating said kidney -- dad had checked out an hour earlier, never to be seen again
trinque: I think a pathological way to do so, but maybe there was something there other than just the narcissism, though that factored in
nubbins`: anyway, in the show, there's this old man, john locke. hard life, series of misfortunes. finds his dad as an adult, befriends him, everything's great
trinque: asciilifeform: hm, maybe I didn't describe the situation I know of fully. she mentioned that it cleared her head a couple times
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> narrow space in the head, so everything ends up the other thing << this is how the 'cutter' explained it to me
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i knew of a guy who was a total slob, ended up giving himself renal failure.
nubbins`: but at least he has a bifurcated penis for his troubles now
nubbins`: he ended up getting divorced in the end, which was a bit of a kick in his absent nuts
asciilifeform: does this count as amputation fetishism...
mircea_popescu: narrow space in the head, so everything ends up the other thing all the time. broken shit.
mircea_popescu: imagine you just found out how to neglect noise in a noisy room
nubbins`: knew a guy who went by the name "mal" who was in the process of letting his wife cut his dick off
mircea_popescu: women to some degree are coded to neglect pain or else they'd never get pregnant.
asciilifeform: so what are the remaining ones ?
mircea_popescu: for one thing, actual masochism is quite rare. about as rare as actual homosexuals.
trinque: punkman: ah, thank you!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well the masochists you imagine and the masochists you'll encounter are guaranteed to never meet.
nubbins`: good, 'cause i didn't get that impression
nubbins`: i've met some extremely complicated people over the years
asciilifeform: who go in for greater and greater torments, hoping to overflow the register
nubbins`: in fairness, i went way farther down the mod rabbit hole than most
mircea_popescu: so... you know, picking something way down off the list of either doesn't make much of a connection
mircea_popescu: similarly, more people in bdsm are after the humiliation than the straight pain.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the pain per se is rarely sought by the body mod crowd. as trinque points out, attention whoring much higher on the list.
nubbins`: you know there's still no option for "none of the above" here?
asciilifeform: trinque: oddly enough i knew such a person, and it was very much not a 'performance act' considering that it was done in secret and only evident long after by the scars
mircea_popescu: nubbins` if your idea of bdsm is "hurty things are nice" and idem of body mods, the problem is this will overlap anything.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu and there isn't an overlap between the two groups who agree "hurty things are nice". gotcha
mircea_popescu: weirdo kabuki nobody takes seriously.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and for the record, the overlap between bdsm and "scenes" is roughly the overlap between human sexuality and brazzers.
trinque: this looks like that
trinque: not the pain
trinque: and it was invariably about the attention after the act
Chillum: almost spit gin and tonic out my nose nubbins`
mircea_popescu: there's a large overlap between idiotic sjw types, fair going lice-in-hair types, gender-and-social-role-issues types and perceived-scandalous-stuff types.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell punkman yo i need legacy deed specifications. get in touch with trinque, if you'd be so kind.
Chillum: good thing I backup
ben_vulpes: punkman: yo i need legacy deed specifications. get in touch with trinque, if you'd be so kind.
mircea_popescu: no there isn't.
nubbins`: asciilifeform unsurprisingly there's a massive overlap between "body mod" world and bdsm
asciilifeform: i can easily picture them feeling it as a 'long no-safeword scene' or somesuch
trinque: seems like the finger cutting wants an audience
nubbins`: pleasure centers are funny things
bitstein: ben_vulpes: I've been busy thinking about other things. I have some articles to review, though, that touch the subject. So we'll see if anyone comes to any new conclusions.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu you don't think cutting the fingertips off is pleasurable for these people?
BingoBoingo: bitspill: DKIM used to be a popular spamzor turd at first, guarenteed to hit yahoo accounts
nubbins`: decimation if it ends up a problem down the road, people have it done as adults all the time
asciilifeform: wait till you hear about eating. not only do you need to do it again soon, but all that money - turned to shit!
decimation: a turd sandwich sounds delicious to someone about the starve to death
nubbins`: ben_vulpes if you need to cum to relax, you'll soon want to cum again
mircea_popescu: moreover, people who think they achieved hapiness are the golden standard of deranged.
danielpbarron: i wasn't suggesting coinbase gpg sign all outgoing email, as such a thing would be pointless if automated, and impossible if not
ben_vulpes: nubbins`: if you need "a thing" to achieve it, you'll soon want another "thing"
decimation: nubbins`: when my baby boy was born the doctor said "his frenulum is really long, you want me to snip it"?