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Chillum: like you could encrypt a message that could be decoded until a specific date
decimation: asciilifeform: but if your purpose is to send bitcoin to random person, just send it to a random address?
Chillum: it would be nice if there was a public/private key system somehow based on time
decimation: pass them through oral history?
Chillum: hehe, make it so that you ahve to brute force it for 4000 years?
asciilifeform: forget the pyramid, just leave n bits off the key.
Chillum: seriously though, create a giant pyramid over it
decimation: Chillum: and how are you gonna keep some random chump from ambling by and liberating the contents?
Chillum: decimation: a bitcoin wallet with 1 bitcoin, think about how much it will be worth in 4000 years!
nubbins`: and walks away without turning off the stove burner o.O
Chillum: worked for the Egyptians
nubbins`: says "oh, i forgot", pours his quarter-cup of water into a mug, puts the pot (which has only contained water) into a dirty sink for someone else to wash
Chillum: milled stone may be the choice for something to last for 100 years +
nubbins`: heads upstairs, the water boils, boils, boils down to a quarter-cup before he wanders back down
nubbins`: so the roomie that's being kicked out: he puts on a pot of water to boil yesterday
asciilifeform: (nausea is, 'in the wild,' generally an indicator of having been poisoned)
asciilifeform: for reasons that don't seem mysterious at all
asciilifeform: nausea is very quick route to associative memory
asciilifeform: nubbins`: patients at chemotherapeutic clinics are often given weird sodas, etc. to drink, for this reason
trinque: I could see there being disorders of the sort of universe modeling of the brain
nubbins`: and shit gets stuck in them sometimes
nubbins`: brains are strange things
nubbins`: why does it make me feel like throwing up sometimes?
nubbins`: does this make sense? what is its cause?
nubbins`: but it's stuck in my head and every once in a while i get a grain of salt stuck to my thumb
trinque: I'm confused; this was an object or just a sensation?
nubbins`: no, i mean the sensation of rolling the grain in my fingers
asciilifeform: nubbins`: or the american expression, dating at least to civil war, of 'biting the bullet'
nubbins`: this feeling, of rolling the whatever-it-was between my fingers, comes back from time to time
nubbins`: maybe 3 years old at the time
decimation: el Lawrence said it was the flesh that puts it there
nubbins`: i have this hazy memory of being extremely sick as a young child, and rolling some very small object, like the size of a grain of sand, between my thumb and forefinger as i writhed in agony
nubbins`: anyway, who can say how a thing gets into a brain?
trinque: getting all this sensory input from a thing that shouldn't be there
nubbins`: more annoying than tinnitus
trinque: hm that could be an extremely annoying feeling
nubbins`: but yes, that sounds quite apt
nubbins`: alf you just made me dictionary two words, tyvm
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i suspect that it will turn up being an elementary proprioception quirk
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2015 02:39:08; decimation: "LAWRENCE Look, Ali. Look! That's me. What colour is it? That's me! And there's nothing I can do about it. ALI A man can do whatever he wants, you said. LAWRENCE He can, but he can't want what he wants.This is the stuff [his flesh] that decides what he wants."
nubbins`: consider the afore-shared "twwly"
nubbins`: asciilifeform the most common one i've seen is "the part just felt wrong being there"
asciilifeform: nubbins`: <nubbins`> anyone who claims to have a grasp on the processes behind these decisions is blowing smoke up your ass << the amputation folks do appear to converge on certain threads in their explanations, iirc
nubbins`: how they get the obsession, probably 99% of them couldn't tell you
decimation: so you put it in your 'safe deposit box', and the bank employees read
trinque: not how they get the obsession in the first place, but how it ends
trinque: that begins to make a shred of sense
asciilifeform: should suffice for a geological epoch or two
trinque: so doing it ends the obsession? or is that the hope?
nubbins`: anyone who claims to have a grasp on the processes behind these decisions is blowing smoke up your ass
trinque: and how that could run away
Chillum: the gold would not have to be thick
nubbins`: now imagine how difficult it would be to take the internal state of /wanting to amputate part of your body/ and convey it
Chillum: the fact is we have a big tech gap when it comes to storing digital information for long term
nubbins`: sure. and that's for something as trivial and banal as a fucking /job/.
Chillum: asciilifeform: nice link, I have read that before
trinque: but yes, very hard to take internal state and convey it sometimes, for anyone
trinque: nubbins`: I am invariably dull when it comes to expressing my feelings to others
assbot: Writing in the Sand: The Need for Ultra-Robust Digital Archiving ... ( http://bit.ly/1cbobG9 )
Chillum: a true engraving or outside cut-out would be more ideal
nubbins`: most people don't tend to think about personal crises once they've passed, so you're not unusual in that regard. did you find it hard to succinctly state what was wrong, to yourself or to others?
decimation: asciilifeform: or you could use a 'letter & number die punch set', it would take quite awhile to wear off
trinque: that relates to how I see this, as a sort of obsession with identity
Chillum: All I know is that anodizing is used instead of paint when something needs to stand up to more abuse
trinque: nubbins`: identity-wise? I don't tend to think about it. maybe something to do with a job
asciilifeform: decimation: problem is that anything easy to do, is easy for the sands of time to scramble up.
nubbins`: what's the most complicated personal crisis you've had to deal with?
decimation: if you want to make a 'long life wallet' just get a small sheet of bronze and hand-etch with 'hand engraver' for 10 bux
trinque: nubbins`: I'll agree with that
nubbins`: what i'm trying to say is that it's impossible for me, or you, to say what any individual's motivations are when doing something this extreme
trinque: we just know how to turn a dick inside out and sew it inside
asciilifeform: nubbins`: they won't be taken in by a cruel sham
trinque: turns out though that we don't know how to make men into women
asciilifeform: nubbins`: in a way, the folks who 'by 1000 want' to be dragons, are better off
trinque: nubbins`: but was the guy getting his dick chopped off one of those?
nubbins`: does that make sense?
Chillum: etched PCB wallets is something I tried
nubbins`: multiply that by 1000, and make it about having a pussy instead of a dick.
asciilifeform: etched pcb will probably keep longer than any ancient papyrus
nubbins`: i mean, REALLY, REALLY wanted to
trinque: nubbins`: yeah this one time..
nubbins`: ever really wanted to fuck?
Chillum: decimation: it is cheaper to just use ferric chloride
asciilifeform: decimation: glass, for instance, is quite opaque to ir and cuts with co2 tube
trinque: nubbins`: what do you think it is?
trinque: dunno then
trinque: nubbins`: I was talking about the guy who chops his finger off
decimation: Chillum: why not use milling bit to mill pcb?
nubbins`: trinque people who feel they're being cheated of pain and risk usually take up dangerous hobbies
asciilifeform: decimation: depends on the wavelength
Chillum: it would be nice to cut PCBs but not going to happen in my price range
decimation: asciilifeform: wouldn't most of the photons get reflected dangerously around the area?
trinque: just seems a bad substitute for whatever used to satisfy it, if that's so
asciilifeform: on account of the poor massless photons, a 100w power saw cuts like a 10kW laser..
Chillum: I expect to remove a layer of foil, laminent or anodization from metal
trinque: that one sort of works... "I'm wired to experience far more pain and risk than I've ever seen in this boring life"
trinque: nubbins`: I was actually looking for an explanation for the thing
Chillum: I don't expect to cut metal
trinque: maybe life is just too boring for them?
decimation: does usg even allow you to possess a laser like that without permission?