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Adlai: mircea_popescu: excellent
the quote, or
the
thread-annotator concept?
trinque: or
that's my understanding
trinque: mircea_popescu: alf says
the guy needs
to burn all his women
to make
the computer
Chillum: trinque: religion isn't about getting something, it is about people
taking from you
mircea_popescu: think in
terms of impregnating women,
trinque. why don't you do it ? because what it... means, what it implies. but imagine it implied exactly nothing. well
then ? why not ?
Adlai: now lock
the secretary in a room with no internet and logs
Adlai: mircea_popescu: no! envision a secretary, lurking in-channel,
tagging each message with
the 'thread'
to which it belongs
trinque: looks like
they got as much as
they could out of allah a while ago
mircea_popescu: trinque "a man
that does what he can and
takes pleasure in it will do what he can and
take pleasure in it".
Adlai shares another one of his ideas
that require more rocket fuel
than he has
to offer - something which inputs log.b-a, and outputs actual
threads
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trinque: I have my doubts
that a mind which believes in
the will of allah produces anything of long
term value
trinque: mircea_popescu: what is
the alternate phrasing?
Chillum: All I remember
thinking is
that
this animal has super human strength and speed
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trinque: why would any powerful man use himself as another's rocket fuel? << in so long as
this is phrased
this way in his head - never.
mircea_popescu: what's
the big deal ? animals are versatile. pigeons do it, why wouldn't monkeys.
assbot: Logged on 10-04-2015 19:55:32; Chillum: ascii_field: I honestly
think keeping a low profile would offer a higher chance of survival
than using a lot of force. I would carry a weapon but
try my hardest not
to reveal it, and use it if I do
assbot: Logged on 10-04-2015 19:54:15; Chillum: constant
travel would be your best bet
Chillum: the people I was with said
they don't normally live in
that area but
that one lives in
the park
Chillum: then a freaking baboon walked by our
table and gave us a nod as it went by
Chillum: some fool at another
table fed
them and suddenly
they had like 20 monkeys
Chillum: At
this forest like park I was drinking(they have bars in parks
there!) and
there were
these little monkeys everywhere
mircea_popescu: im kinda sorrty we don't have an ukr alf here, it'd be fun
to watch
the
two.
trinque: mircea_popescu: stan likes
to bring up russian scientists
Chillum: I have been
to Kenya, I did not see a giraffe
Chillum: I don't see how I could confuse such different
things
trinque: mircea_popescu: is
this idea of
the colossal project a russian
thing?
Chillum: nope
that is not what I am
thinking of
mircea_popescu: you're
thinking
the modern villages in england built out of
their various ancient druid stuff.
Chillum: actually
there are very old
towns build from
the pyramids limestone
trinque: mircea_popescu: right,
this seems directly at odds with
the multigenerational, self-sacrificial quest for
truth
Chillum: the pyramids used
to have a lovely limestone cover
Chillum: any long
term project will be cannibalized
the moment it become inconvenient not
too
mircea_popescu: what motivates
the monkey
to pick up
the rock isn't some sort of contorted dream about becoming a rockthrowing revolutionary ceo.
mircea_popescu: most of human history, and
the vast majority of everything nice and good, came out of cause-oriented. so common in fact it didn't even have a name.
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trinque: funkenstein_: I'm not saying long
term projects can't exist; however, I
think
they're doomed if
they do not benefit
the participants all along
the way
assbot: Logged on 10-04-2015 19:50:13; ascii_field: and somehow can
turn into goodies by itself
mircea_popescu: whitelabelling and dropshipping and all
that is how
the "service economy" operates.
Chillum: people would arbitrage book auctions compared
to known prices and
then ship it all
to Amazon for
them
to handle
the shipping. Pencil pushers buying us dying companies and selling with least effort possible
mircea_popescu: better ways
to grow fungi and afids on your walls if you're really into
that.
mircea_popescu: i used
to have a huge library, i wouldnt buy a book
today.
Chillum: naturally
the books
that sell by weight
tend
to be
the ones
that don't sell
mircea_popescu: Chillum
this is how it worked in belle epoque paris rly.
Chillum: except
they used pounds because
they were american sigh
Chillum: a lot of people priced
their books by weight because
they bought
them by
the
ton
assbot: Logged on 10-04-2015 19:47:50; ascii_field: 'And so,
the answer
to
the perennially annoying question “How do I invest my money for it
to survive financial, political and commercial collapse?” is
this: “There is no answer
to your question.
Try asking a different question,
to which
there might be an answer.”'
Chillum: then
they complain
that
their books cost 1 penny
Chillum: some people are so dumb
they insist on pricing
their book at 1 cent below
the lowest price every hour when we have
told
them
that other people are doing
that
Chillum: by
that I mean I wrote repricing scripts
that set
the prices on millions of books
Chillum: I used
to sell books for a living,
they really don't
shinohai: books haz moar value
than gold
mircea_popescu: for
that matter, politicians are pliable, policemen respectful and judges amenable. in all
times and places.
that's what
these do.
trinque: Chillum: or it falls apart because
the narrative keeping people doing it is bullshit
assbot: Logged on 10-04-2015 19:47:23; Chillum: mats: historically civilizations do collapse so far, and no further. Even after
the fall of
the roman empire gold had value
Chillum: The danger of planning
tasks beyond your lifetime is instead of grand stabilizing projects
they
turn into welfare
trinque: that was
the
thread with alf earlier
mircea_popescu: imo it's kinda dweeby, but hey. one doesn't get
to choose
the
times
shinohai: may iask mircea_popescu what u
think i
try so hard at ?
Chillum: I
then said "Then I can leach off of it"
assbot: Logged on 10-04-2015 19:46:18; Chillum: It would be nice
to be born into a society
that had spent
the last 20 generations engaging in long
term planning
to make life easy
mircea_popescu: shinohai dawg you're
trying
too hard. how about you get in
the wot, settle down
to some reading ?
Chillum: I had
this job and we had
to get our site certified for some credit card standard.
They required anti-virus software, but we run linux. So we installed an anti-virus scanner designed
to find windows viruses in attachments for e-mail servers
shinohai: ask
TradeFortress how
that wen
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trinque: say I'm
the firewall company, I'd not only make my
thing, I'd spend money punching holes in everyone else's products all day
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trinque: again can't speak for you, but i can't create
the customer any more
than can create
the weather.
shinohai: I work for no one at
this point.
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trinque: you could build a product
that's an order of magnitude better
than what
they offer in your sleep
shinohai: How if we wish
to have nice
things, we need
to pay for
them
shinohai: Wish in one and shit in
the other. See which fills up quicker.
assbot: Logged on 10-04-2015 19:21:41; Chillum: I wish I had a satoshi for everything in
the channel
that was required reading
assbot: Logged on 10-04-2015 19:18:17; Chillum:
though
traditionally it is hemp seeds, and is actually really good food