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asciilifeform: about 0.003 % is the fraction of the time i get something worth reading.
asciilifeform: and a 'random' toggle
mircea_popescu: i wish to see the female alf. and her shoe collection.
Chillum: the philosophy is get it first, make it good later. Though much never gets attention again
asciilifeform: it has a copy of the ascii portion of wikipedia snapshot circa year of production
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is there anything you didn't buy ?
Chillum: we have piles of crap, and then we have stuff we selected as core subjects to get attention
asciilifeform: i happen to own this toy: http://www.cnet.com/news/the-gizmo-report-wikireader-simple-singular
Chillum: lol I made that number up based on experience
asciilifeform: of this figure.
mircea_popescu: which i must say for dali, and he'd have said it if he thought of it first : fucking genius.
decimation: yeah I can see that. purified into 'brutalism' in post war communist europe
mircea_popescu: perhaps. in the sense the russians mounted it all on oxcarts.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: eh there was a good bit of 2-way
mircea_popescu: bauhaus on the cheap = soviet prefab flats. from berlin to pakistan.
decimation: my most direct expsoure was the 'bauhouse' letters used to teach me reading
Chillum: We admins have a saying over on the private wikipedia admin channel: Gurer vf ab pnony
mircea_popescu: Chillum i don't think that's the shade of caring he had in mind.
Chillum: and any other planet that gets in the way of my plans!!
asciilifeform: decimation: he concluded - in my view, correctly - that a senile 3rd reich would look quite like today's senile 4th
decimation: Chillum: that's because nobody gives a fuck about jupiter
asciilifeform: decimation: mr mold had a piece on this
decimation: if the nazis won wwii, one wonders what the 'nazi wikipedia' would look like
assbot: Jupiter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1HdGy99 )
Chillum: tell me with a straight face that this article has no information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter
asciilifeform: 'information is a difference that makes a difference' -- also traditional
asciilifeform: Chillum: may as well take over a psych ward to get at the valuable napoleons therein
decimation: Chillum: is there anyone 'working' on wikipedia who doesn't want to 'control information'?
mircea_popescu: Chillum if that thing's information i'm a sort of misunderstood pope.
mircea_popescu: some other people have to see which common mistress is awake to bail the couple out.
Chillum: I am a wiki dude because I have bond villian like ambitions. One needs to control information, being a wikipedia admin is a good start
asciilifeform: 'friend helps you move furniture. true friend helps you move body.' -- traditional american proverb
mircea_popescu: some people have to explain to the wife why they're in jail.
mircea_popescu: "hey, feel like going to prison tonight ?" "sure."
asciilifeform: in the 'someone gives a fuck if you come back from the front' sense ?
Chillum: it is true
Chillum: I did not even consider getting married till I met someone who would not try to control me but rather support my bond villain like ambitions
mircea_popescu: moreover, it's relevant support. the support of people you're not intimate with is worth about as much as the word of people not in the wot.
Chillum: I admit though, I went through a lot of shit women before I found a good one
asciilifeform: anyway, i'll concern myself with this detail soon after i decide whether to use xenon or argon in the maneuvering ion engines for my mars lander.
mircea_popescu: in strict contrast to the woman he had before, that bogged him down.
mircea_popescu: and it's unclear they actually need anything. slim is the controlling example. chick empowered bogart.
assbot: Logged on 21-02-2015 01:19:34; mircea_popescu: "she's been going through 6-7k each month since autumn, but i get to go visit p diddy whenever i feel like it. it's a wash"
asciilifeform remembers -exactly- which tread
asciilifeform: and they don't 'cost' power, but you need it
mircea_popescu: this isn't strictly chillum's "she helps with the rent". recall convo re 40k ?
asciilifeform readily believes this
asciilifeform: (is PeterL around? i bet he'd appreciate this image)
asciilifeform: but you still -need to be powerful- to keep a harem. in that you need the 'extra electron shells' to attract it with.
asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu has a point here, in that a pet does not -cost- very much per se
asciilifeform: wait till you think, what legs can do
decimation: 'trabant' can transport you 1,000 miles, kind of
asciilifeform: let's calculate the average cock count then.
mircea_popescu: 3.8bn of them
asciilifeform: where? the congo ?
mircea_popescu: decimation sadly usg is not directly involved. this is more "let's make vague laws to satisfy an abstruse expectation of good". the only result is, whenever contrary interests meet, the provider is caught in the middle.
asciilifeform: this is like asking which is better to get, a 'boeing' or a 'trabant.'
asciilifeform: what do you mean "have to work with" ? << some folks can afford a palace and a stable of pets to cultivate therein; others - yellow pages, when they get 'bonus' salary. on holidays.
decimation: usg enjoys forcing everyone to be an agent
mircea_popescu: not that i care, i'll be making money on this deal, but from a systemic perspective it sucks.
mircea_popescu: the us legal system has managed to put anyone trying to provide services into this position of "fucked either way".
decimation: mircea_popescu: is this related to the dcma thing?
mircea_popescu: what do you mean "have to work with" ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah i know, i'll be suing a dc, moving the thing etc.
asciilifeform: depends on what you have to work with, no ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform let's again put it in terms of sex. given the choice does it seem a better strategy to keep long term warm intimate relations with a long list of sluts, or does it seem more workable to just keep the yellow pages close and hope the massage salon person understands what you mean ?
assbot: Logged on 12-03-2015 01:35:08; mircea_popescu: btw, anyone know how cockney got to be called that ?
asciilifeform: but short version is that to have 'volunteers' for english industry, they turned their countryside into the closest thing possible at their tech level to an open air gulag
decimation: as in 'if the peasants don't want to work in the factory - starve them until they do?'
asciilifeform: i will not re-tell the 'vagrancy laws' thing here, it is amply covered in the literature.
assbot: Logged on 24-11-2014 23:13:14; asciilifeform: ultimately, being a builder of industry at the 1917 (or even today's) tech level, fundamentally sucks. as in, the same way being in prison sucks. so stalin et. al. tried experiment: what if being a peasant sucked -more- ? and - it worked.
asciilifeform: notably, this -required- widespread misery of a kind superficially unrelated to industry, to make industry practical
decimation: imagine being one of these young germans at dunkirk, watching the sad sacks from britianna derp around
asciilifeform: the english got a massive head start by having been the inventors of the turn-people-into-industrial-feedstock thing.
asciilifeform: very much this.
assbot: Logged on 16-02-2015 04:18:05; decimation: the contrast between the German soldiers, bronzed and clean-cut from a youth spent in the sunshine on an adequate diet, and the first British war prisoners, with their hollow chests, round shoulders, pasty complexions and bad teeth – tragic examples of the youth that England had neglected so irresponsibly in the years between the wars."
assbot: Logged on 16-02-2015 04:18:04; decimation: the 'forced exercise' idea reminds me of a passage in the 'rise and fall of the third reich': "The young in the Third Reich were growing up to have strong and healthy bodies, faith in the future of their country and in themselves and a sense of fellowship and camaraderie that shattered all class and economic and social barriers. I thought of that later, in the May days of 1940, when along the road betwee
asciilifeform: specifically as pictured in the film, even.
asciilifeform: it was the envy of the crippled ephialtes, who knows exactly what he is, for the healthy spartans.
asciilifeform: one of the reason the english nailed them with such vengeance, trashing the entire planet in the process
asciilifeform: unlike the english world, for example
asciilifeform: decimation: my understanding is that germany, like japan, had a few living scraps of functional tradition survive the 20th c. woodchipper
decimation: asciilifeform: they have an 'apprenticeship' system in germany too
asciilifeform: escape 'from frying pan to fire,' this.
decimation: they can't be easily fired, generally treated with a degree of 'tenure'
decimation: asciilifeform: european welfare statism is fucktarded, but they do have a degree of escape from this treadmill
asciilifeform: ;;isup trilema.com
asciilifeform: ;;isitup trilema.com
assbot: A piece of cake on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PuXdsg )
asciilifeform: when any approach other than arbeit macht frei is made countereconomic, don't be surprised when you get arbeit macht frei.
asciilifeform: why invest in people when you can catch them in the wild, use them until spent, throw out.
asciilifeform: or the replacement of slavery with wage slavery in general.
asciilifeform: but the basic idea is as old as the industrial nunneries of the 19th c.
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah, in general tech seems to be managed on a 'what have done for me lately' basis
asciilifeform: naggum's 'managing an unskilled labor force means easy access to people who are skilled in whatever is needed right now, not an investment in people -- which leads to the conclusion that a programmer is only as valuable as his ability to get another job fast.'
decimation: I suspect the 'men-as-parts' strategy is primarily implemented by the aforementioned engineer managers with poor social skills
asciilifeform: 'On April 9, a search warrant was served at Tucker's home and a computer had an operating system used by hackers, DPS said.'
mircea_popescu: i don;t think "men as parts" is actually all that good.
decimation: asciilifeform: just like 'first-to-market-crapware' is also a short term winning strategy
asciilifeform: men-as-fungible-parts ends up 'winning', at least in the short term.