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mircea_popescu: Guest64542 derps ennumerated their db rather than hashing it.
Chillum: original research is of course great, but out of the scope of an encyclopedia
Chillum: when writing a tertiary source like an encyclopedia one must rely on experts only, original research is forbidden. It is meant to document the information that already exists without adding opinion
asciilifeform: pinker was covering, making excuses for gladwell's lack of even the most elementary education or curiosity
Guest64542: Mr. P: what's that all about with FetLife anyway?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this actually is a two-layered shit sandwich
mircea_popescu: or something like that.
Chillum: (kidding, I try to be very neutral on wikipedia)
mircea_popescu: "[W]hen a writer’s education on a topic consists in interviewing an expert, he is apt to offer generalizations that are banal, obtuse or flat wrong." << in romanian this is known as "a waiter at one of these places where university professors gather can actually soak up a lot, often enough to pass himself for one"
Chillum: if they do have an alternative position on jovian science they will have to go through me to get it told!
decimation: maybe they have an alternative position on jovian science
Chillum: half a brain is the key point
asciilifeform: Chillum: why use a proxy net that has canonical exit ip list for any sysadmin with half a brain to add to drop list ?
Chillum: shut down the website they are advertising
Chillum: it is the smart subtle ddos that can run from a raspberry pi on a dail-up
Chillum: which means you can do it through tor
mircea_popescu: and i guess ima hammer the shit out of fetlife now, anyway.
Chillum: the nice thing about application layer DDOS is that it does not require significant bandwidth and can work with high latency
mircea_popescu: yeah prolly by tomorrow.
Guest64542: do you expect the site to be back up soon?
Chillum: that is the difference between a script kiddie and someone who is actually doing stuff
mircea_popescu: Guest64542 nah, inept dc caved over a fraudulent dmca notice. will be skinning them for it, next week.
Chillum: which is hard but not that hard
Chillum: you just have to do something original
Chillum: there are so many ways to fuck with a web server that they can't get them all
Chillum: there are tools, but the servers are patched for the tools
asciilifeform: Chillum: mythical book, which i imagined, telling the 'secrets' of 'k00l d00dz' the world around.
Chillum: what does ddos have to do with spamming? I have not read that
Chillum: very hard to mitigate short of load balancing
Chillum: another trick is to send 1 byte every second to keep the connection open
Chillum: then forget about the connection on your side and open another
asciilifeform: not paying enough for this info to be readily available to the naked eye.
Chillum: pause for 5 minutes between the header name and header value works for a lot
Chillum: different server fail to different things
Chillum: asciilifeform: tcp/ip layer or application layer?
assbot: Logged on 11-04-2015 00:04:38; asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> ... dude, why so disdainful ? if you don't trust people you don't know on the basis of what they write << because i can see the hallmarks of educated mendacity. the man, whoever he is, knows that i know the history. and pretends otherwise, and that he has some sort of 'lesson' for old ignorant me. i know the type, they infest (or once did) my comments section.
asciilifeform: i'll take one guess, that it relates to http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-04-2015#1096078
Chillum: making them all soft
Chillum: people are spoiled by elevators that stop at the bottom all by themselves
Chillum: when it got close to the top or bottom and alarm would sound to tell you to stop
Chillum: on a lever, the more you moved it the faster it went
asciilifeform: yes, the kind that merely has an up/down toggle
Chillum: and you could drive it badly if you happen to get your hand on it
Chillum: well this one was not busy work, it needed a driver
asciilifeform: when i worked, many years ago, at 'nih' in bethesda, maryland - they experimented with reintroducing elevator-drivers. as i understood, it was merely an employment program for the Officially Sad
Chillum: they eventually sold the elevator car and motor and used the cash to renovate the whole building, and get a modern elevator
Chillum: last on in Canad they said
Chillum: that reminds me of the intelligent elevators in hitchhikers guide the galaxy, and how smug and annoying they were'
asciilifeform: Chillum: reminds me of an article i read as a boy in some 'mothering/homekeeping' magazine my folks had, about 'should kid thank the elevator'
Chillum: on a wiki I could fix that
Chillum: Did you know that gribble is a real person? Never sleeps, can do bitcoin sigs and PGP in his head.
asciilifeform: (instead of sending gladwell to take his rightful place behind the latrine)
asciilifeform: then other hack writers made creative excuses for this stunt
asciilifeform: prior to disgorging his turdheaps
asciilifeform: inadvertently revealing that, not only did he sleep in school, but did not even contemplate cracking open a book
asciilifeform: he was attempting to abuse the very basic mathematical concept of 'eigenvalue', and referred to it, repeatedly, in print as 'igon value'.
asciilifeform: there once was/is an american hack writer named gladwell. was published in huge quantities and the drivel was stocked everywhere, for political reasons which i'm still only dimly aware of.
mircea_popescu: we had a guy, long ago, that cared. it is to his memory that i dedicate that line.
asciilifeform: not hammering on Chillum here, but the memory was inescapable
mircea_popescu: Chillum yes yes. wasn't a serious criticism that.
Chillum: I really cannot be bothered to fix every little red line under what I type
mircea_popescu: amusingly, these ignoramuses have branded the memory hole effect too ?
asciilifeform: does anyone remember the 'igonvalue' [sic] debacle ?
mircea_popescu: im turning into fucking vragnaroda over here.
Chillum: well it is on a public website for download and based off code with a free license that carries on to derivitive works, so what should I think?
mircea_popescu: exactly. free to shoot you with, sure.
asciilifeform: yes - they are. free for the taking, if a little hot
asciilifeform: Chillum: it is free in the sense that bullets in a border guard's machinegun are 'free.'
mircea_popescu: you can think whatever you wish.
Chillum: it is based off of a license that require derivitive works to follow the same license so I think it is\
mircea_popescu: the reason is that... as decimation points out... nobody gives a shit about wikipedia
mircea_popescu: the problem is a lot more obvious there.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin forum is dedicated to making "free bitcoin content" as well.
Chillum: the begging is super lame, they already have a huge stockpile of donations
Chillum: If the free content isn't good enough, sour lemons for you
mircea_popescu: Chillum last i saw the begging campaign, it was a very pointed "sucks we can't afford 1/100000000 of what google can"
Chillum: well it is a serious acedemic project aimed at making the realm of copyrighted free and available to all
asciilifeform: a list of the correctness of a culture << precisely. it is a -standards document-
mircea_popescu: i object to the spurious pretense that wikipedia is anyuthing but myspace on white
mircea_popescu: whereas wikipedia whines about not having 5k to pay for servers, and nurtures inferiority complexes @ google and everyone else.
Chillum: do you you object to how Wikipedia has made an encyclopedia or the concept of an encyclopedia itself?
mircea_popescu: which is why d'alembert's is d'alembert's, and why it turned europe upside down
mircea_popescu: but a list of the correctness of a culture.
mircea_popescu: this is what an encyclopedia is. not a piling of "information", as the acultural imagine.
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> i wish to see the female alf. and her shoe collection. << lol, 'i wish to meet the female chingis khan and her sheep collection'
mircea_popescu: an encyclopedia, fundamentally, imposes a political hierarchy upon the world, and that of a known and verifiable pedigree.
Chillum: The article "Earth" is better than the same article in any other encyclopedia
Chillum: again you make a point and I strain to understand what it has to do with the conversation
mircea_popescu: wikipedia is not "pretty good by the standards of any encyclopedia", it is "pretty good by the standards of any encyclopedia that were not an encyclopedia but a wikipedia instead"
mircea_popescu: Chillum again, that an elephant which counts to three is pretty great as far as elephants go does not make this a mathematical discussion.
asciilifeform: there is 'britannica' circa 1958 - the most complete edition - which i own
asciilifeform: but there is no such 'pedia'
Chillum: and seriously an article at the final level of completion is pretty damn good by the standards of any encyclopedia
asciilifeform: i would pay 10x for a version sans the garbage
asciilifeform: (in practice it is very physically arduous to use)
decimation: there's a few ounces of wine in the turd-soup
mircea_popescu: no dude. humans have better stuff to do.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a man-portable encyclopaedia (and Forth interpreter!) that runs on two batteries for several years and does not need the net seemed like a good idea.
Chillum: but we use categories to deliminate the different quality articles. Our "good article" category is significantly larger than any print encyclopedia
mircea_popescu: Chillum the philosophy is that you can aggregate meaning out of contextless snippets, by using self-propelled monkeys. this is so much nonsense.