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mircea_popescu: i do not read in
the original speaker even
the faintest glimmer of intellectual life.
whaack: also, he is likely stating
this
to
try
to fight against "sure,
to a certain degree
the problem with
the world is
that idiots are cock sure while mit graduates are full of doubt." Whether or not he's having an internal struggle and displaying it or
trying
to help others with
their internal struggles idk, probably
the former lol
whaack: well for starters
the person who winds up on
the podium is going
to be
the one who spent his
time
trying
to make sure he was on
the podium instead of doing something interesting, so he/she will always be amongst
the least interesting people at MIT
mircea_popescu: it's really a very well constructed piece, what with
this classical parts of discourse, reinforcements of
thesis etc approach.
the guy
that made it handshakes with me, and
that's why i believe
the piece
to be important. it's not a matter of
the wikified "was it or wasn't it",
totalitarian superficialism. it's
that
the guy
that made it clearly knows what he should be saying, and how.
mircea_popescu: it's a sort of self-parody,
that
thing.
the lightbulb segment merely drives
this point home
to people who aren't accustomed withj judging discourse :
the guys are making
total fools of
themselves.
the way
they do it reminds
the way
the original guy did it.
mircea_popescu: if we shall excuse him for
this,
then why is he speaking at all ? he should show, right ? he's a
technical guy, riught ? how come
the only way his
technical achievement reaches me is
through rhetorics ?
mircea_popescu: oh, shall we excuse him because well... he didn't say premiere humanities, he said premiere
technical, and
this distinction is actually a
thing ?
mircea_popescu: well for one, rhetorics is more
than praxis, it's also
the voice.
that is NOT how you speak, if you even know what speech is.
mircea_popescu: the important part of
that video isn't even (to my critical eye)
the "light a bulb" segment.
the important part is
the opening sequence. a dweeb dweebing about how "we are
the premiere bla bla". o yeah ?
mircea_popescu: to a sadly larger degree however,
the mit graudates' professed confidence rings hollow, like
the posturings of
the
tiny dicked.
mircea_popescu: sure,
to a certain degree
the problem with
the world is
that idiots are cock sure while mit graduates are full of doubt.
whaack: it's marketed
that way due
to
the widespread lack of self-confidence in
the community
whaack: oh definitely,
that is a great way
to word how I feel about MIT
too
mircea_popescu: and
that problem is present, and
that problem is
the deep reason i despise mit as an intellectual approach.
mircea_popescu: the problem is
that
they are selling
themselves wrongly : as an achievement rather
than as an attempt. which is what allows stuff like
that video
to *denote*, whether it describes or not.
whaack: right,
that is not realistic
whaack: MIT duped a bunch of old guys
to give us ~1,000 coins. Sure
there are many "bad apples" but MP is definitely hating. Idk what's up with
the lightbulb video it is a selected subset for
the segment IMO
mircea_popescu: mr d is fortunate
to have never considered "social studies" seriously.
mircea_popescu: "During
the last decades
the American Departments of Computing Science have severely suffered from a discrepancy between what society asked for and what society needed, but, be it slowly,
the gap seems
to be closing."
mircea_popescu: "exactly like
the bible was driven. before was before, but
this is after."
mircea_popescu: someone early may be excused because
the word did not exist, is all.
mircea_popescu: williamdunne someone late may not be credible if
they do not get in
the wot.
mircea_popescu: I knew a girl once, she was very smart. She went
to mit,
then returned but never came back.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: What about using citations found on WikiPedia from somewhat credible sources (post 1980)
that lack PGP sigs?
mircea_popescu: I once knew a girl, she was very smart. she went
to mit, and never came back.
mircea_popescu: to go with
the "how
to fight pseudoscience : ignore it" stuff on
trilema.
ascii_modem: in old
town dc / seppukuras bloom / but no sword have we.
mircea_popescu: but people we don't know from before 1980 MAY NOT EVER BE CITED unless
they get in wot.
mircea_popescu: "knowledge" without source is gunk. ideally
the source is a pgp signature. absent
that, it may be a name pre 1980.
mircea_popescu: i propose, broadly,
that nobody ever cites wikipedia, in any context. for
this exact reason : source needed.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel see,
the djikstra quotes are great. because
they are SOMEONE.
mircea_popescu: an' all
that's really missing is someone willing
to go
to
the
trouble.
mircea_popescu: if you can spend half your
tiem on your farm and half
the
time shooting socialists in
the head and still be a region leader, clearly
the region's not much of a challenge in
the first place.
mircea_popescu: rhodesia is
the informative example on
this
topic.
the white guys could survive
the attack of outside blacks with
the support of
the inside blacks, even as
the outsiders were being sponsored by
the usual "helpers".
mircea_popescu: "africa is still
trying
to work around
the genetic/epigenetic/cultural relationship
that leads
the inhabitants
to destroy anything resembling order."
mircea_popescu: people don't want
to sign code, even code
they've written.
trinque doesn't want
to vouch for bundles he inherited. yet you're willing
to vouch for
this. why and how come ?
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel " I've assembled some quotes from Wikipedia which paint, from what I could
tell, an accurate picture," what is
the meaning of "from what i could
tell" in
that sentence ? because
the follow-up, "I've lived in
the US for 22 years and heard nothing about" seems essentially an appeal
to ignorance. but
that aside, how does
the "From what i could
tell" construct emerge here ?
mircea_popescu: you can waltz straight
to
the devil on x axis by bouncing from -1
to +1 on
the y axis.
mircea_popescu: if you
think about how a split is driven into wood, i mean
the newtonian mechanics underlying
the process, you have
the model ready : each advancement of
the split is a "reaction
to" one side or
the other overbalancing.
mircea_popescu: trinque yeah, which i insist on
the score.
the way
the brokedness system has propagated itself since at least hamilton, ie
two centuries ago,
mircea_popescu: ow sheit look at
that. linking
to... "the myspace anyone can edit" from your foundational document ? what happens if
tomorrow
that
thing reads "laddel eats c0ks lawl" ?
trinque: I
think
this self directed learning
thing is just a reaction against having shitty universities; I know
that's what motivated me
to work on something similar
mircea_popescu: Googling "Leeland Yee", "California IOU", "Keith Jackson" or "mexican gangs" paints a rather grim picture. << i
thought
the web was broken.
mircea_popescu: whole
thing looks
to me like so much emotion flailing
to find expression.
mircea_popescu: " Prior
to
this,
the IRS scandal, and currently
the administration is refusing
to
take action on
the illegal immigration problem. " <<
the main clause lost its verb.
mircea_popescu: regarding
the following questions: [basic, sensible questions] … doth not work, for one.
mircea_popescu: footnote 2 is at best confused, and fails
to make its point.
mircea_popescu: ... rather
than provide for him
the illusion
that he has something new while saving him
the effort by merely renaming
the old shit in his head.
trinque: maybe accidentally, but
that's about it
trinque: how could
the student know how
to construct a scenario which will
teach him something he does not yet know
mircea_popescu: "i can't believe i'm losing all
this weight. i am eating way more
than b4"
mircea_popescu: kinda how "brainwashing" in
the harem works. or body washing, for
that matter.
mircea_popescu: trinque
there's definitely something
to it.
taking people out of a social context which forces and incentivizes
them
to be stupid usually results in shock, and
then significant improvement.
mircea_popescu: so... you do in fact agree self directed doesn't work, and
the shit has
to be stomped out. just don't wanna say it.
trinque: mircea_popescu: my old boss called it
the "end-user/developer divide."
trinque: that
the right computing environment would just naturally de-derp
the user
trinque: ben_vulpes: 6.1 was eric's
thought on
the matter as well
ben_vulpes: mostly
that curating a distro and
then building a lispy "os" on it is a bugger of a
task.
ben_vulpes: i've gleaned some useful stuff from
this.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel i hope you appreciate i hit you over
the head because i like you.
trinque: ben_vulpes:
this writeup is
triggering my end-user-programming ptsd
mircea_popescu: at
the
time
they were spending massively on some sort of "re-whatever" urban
thing.
turned a bunch of
the old mills into artist lofts and whatnot
mats: lowell is
the anus of greater boston, yo.
mircea_popescu: unless
they found some sort of unction in
the intervening decade, you can't find a single soul on
the entire communist autonomous enclave of cambridge
that can speak latin.
mircea_popescu: i've been
there yo. i lived half a year in lowell, mass. i ate half my meals in
the house of professors
there. i know
the place, as it happens.
mircea_popescu: so i should be careful with my windows 7 - ready laptop around
them ?
mats: and its nothing
to scoff at. even for a second.
ben_vulpes: writes haskell, wanks in ever more
theatrical ways, no doubt.
mats: what i know is
that i encountered
the single largest number of
talented folks with skills in weaponizing exploits at MIT
mircea_popescu: well,
that's
the function, financially, whatever. i mean you know, in its own privacy.
ben_vulpes: procures and doles out usg cash. what else does one need
to know?
trinque: persuade
the usg
to cut
them fat checks
ben_vulpes: but simulacra
that pass
the sniff
test at palantir and other usg sinecure production
theaters
mircea_popescu: mats
the presumption is merely
that any remaining brains are
there IN SPITE of mit
mats: presuming
there is not one functioning brain in
the lot is fantasy.
ben_vulpes: all of
the other smart kids now know - MIT murders
those who step out of line.
mircea_popescu: uh.
this is like saying "these drama nerds are very sexy, i know one writing for sex in
the city"
ben_vulpes: feeder schools for
the meatrobot farms.
mats: i know more
than a few grads
that have gone on
to accept offers with outfits like Palantir.
ben_vulpes: the notion
that google/facebook/mentorgraphics/ibm feeder schools produce dangerous individuals is *laughable*