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assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 02:45:36;
trinque: maybe someday you must maintain over a certain rating
to deal in certain spheres of influence
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 02:45:01; williamdunne: I'm not saying its a good idea, I just
think its interesting as an idea
mircea_popescu: i mean i get it,
this has become
the surogate closure for
the internet horde, "o no, here is his real name". mmmkay...
mircea_popescu: " Especially in Brazil where
there are many scammers
that exposes all of your personal life, and we know
their real names,
their documents etc." << aaaand
this isn't indication
that it really doesn't work ?
mircea_popescu: actually, it seems
to be resolving.
that was a very spooky 5 minutes up
there.
mircea_popescu: i see subsets of dozens of otherwise well connected nodes not knowing of
txn back and forth
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 02:33:44; asciilifeform: felipelalli: one not-inaccurate way
to
think about 'cipherpunkian' systems such as bitcoin or wot is as attempts
to emulate a kind of incorruptible god
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-04-2015#1100378 << morally neutral god of all knowledge ? interesting, incidentally,
that
the price
the various jewish groups (including xtians) had
to pay for
the "church-state" frankenstein was overloading
the correct notion of god with
the notion of a "correct" god. only once god knew all AND GAVE A SHIT ABOUT
THE KING'S WILL was
there
to be mandatory churchgoing and burning of
☝︎ mircea_popescu: i want
to reconsider
that about as much as windows user wants
to compile from source.
mircea_popescu: then i'd
throw up, likely, because fucking hell now i have
to reconsider
the "no universal human quality" pillar of
thought.
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 02:25:49; asciilifeform: sadly, i suspect
that even a
thousand
threads like
this one will not suffice in hammering
the point home
to
the
thickest
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 02:20:06; decimation: asciilifeform: note
that zimmerman is largely
trading on his rep 'earned' during
the 'crypto wars'
mircea_popescu: the insanity of
the aol internet
turned all sense on its head.
mircea_popescu: the idea
that you even care about "alt identities" is pure
totalitarianism, about on
the level of a "forum mod"
trying
to "enforce forum rules" with "bans". rank nonsense.
the way it goes is
the other way : only let people in
that have a business in.
mircea_popescu: but otherwise, it's easy
to maintain sole access over an identity, and pointless
to discuss whether
that is your only identity.
williamdunne: Sure, and I
think he discovered
that from
the conversation
mircea_popescu: he wasn't looking for any answer. he was
trying
to shoehorn disorganised remains of broken history into
the future. as he keeps
trying
to do
this he'll figure it out.
williamdunne: While I understand
the point you're
trying
to make, I don't
think
that was
the answer he was looking for
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 02:18:16; asciilifeform: as
the 'ban'
thing unfolds, honeypots like zimmerman's which specifically sell on
the point of 'l337 d00dz against nsa' will either a) quietly fade away b) somehow continue in what
they presently are, in spite of supposed 'bans'
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 02:17:36; williamdunne: felipelalli: Not sure if its a good idea or not at
this point, but interesting
to
think about. Very hard
to prove we are
the sole instance of ourselves
mircea_popescu: it can make all
the passports it wants, ima credit someone on
the basis of
that as much as i'd credit someone presenting a reader's digest letter.
mircea_popescu: declarations of pretenders
to sovereignity like
the brazilian government matter...
to it. not
to me.
mircea_popescu: conventions between you and X may matter,
to you,
to X,
to people who know you, or X, or both.
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 02:15:38; felipelalli: asciilifeform:
thank you, good point, but it could be offset with
the WoT where
the ability
to analyze a real document would be
taken into account. williamdunne
thank you! Nice
to hear
that! I was
thinking about it for days! Do you know who are working on similar standard?
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 02:11:38; asciilifeform: (do you know what it costs
to advertise in every single car of
the d.c. subway?)
mircea_popescu: "Maximum concurrent requests for
this endpoint reached. Please
try again shortly."
mircea_popescu: blockexplorer.com : ERROR: unknown (Most likely my bitcoind stopped working or
this page is
too large/complex.)
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 02:07:49; felipelalli: in
this way, anyone could rate scammers and it would be useful for all services like exchanges and everything.
mircea_popescu: and yes, sucks for
the remnant of
teh middle class, obviously. which, i suppose, is a good summary of a large chunk of "what
to do" discussions here.
mircea_popescu: "nobody on easter island realised
that if we cut down all
the
trees on easter island
there won't be anyting left, on easter island".
mircea_popescu: but, amusingly, no socialism
to date, no matter it's (always on, anyway) claims
to sophistication EVER realised
that hte middle is finite.
mircea_popescu: the problem with
this is
that as
the socialism progresses,
the middle class dies out. because socialism is societal cancer, it just burns
the fat and dies.
mircea_popescu: usg went in
the middle and lost,
there being no middle. but
this is funny, psychologically, because : all socialisms always live by fleecing
the middle class. for all
the verbiage, it's
the "kulak"
that supported
the soviets, not
the filthy rich capitalist dudes.
mircea_popescu: the people who are incompetent also never cared what
the usg was putting out, and have and use convenient solutions
that mostly also don't involve it
mircea_popescu: meanwhile :
the people who are competent never cared what
the usg was putting out, and have and use functional solutions
that don't involve it.
mircea_popescu: "In
this case,
the U.S. Attorney, while castigating politicians in Albany for playing fast and loose with
the ethical rules
that govern
their conduct, strayed so close
to
the edge of
the rules governing his own conduct
that Defendant Sheldon Silver has a non-frivolous argument
that he fell over
the edge
to
the Defendant’s prejudice."
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 02:00:37; asciilifeform:
http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099925 << do i need
to explain what
the resurrection of 'key escrow' idiocy from '90s (clinton's!
to go right along with
the new clinton!) means from
the meta-nsa school of
thought? or is it already obvious
to aficionados
pete_dushenski: or mebbe it never did, at least not for
the less refined desert
tribes.
pete_dushenski: 'jooz' having lost its former lustre in
this case, however, and now being a synonym for idiotic equalitarians.
pete_dushenski: which, if he's
the mule of socialism, and of
the braindamaged jewry extant after
that most abysmal intellectual 'cleansing', i can sorta see it
ben_vulpes: surely not
the self destruct under
the boulder
trap...
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: confirmed for imaginationless except in regards
to his own means of death
☟︎ ben_vulpes: ;;later
tell chetty no obligation
though, i'm still bringing your seaweed
ben_vulpes: ;;later
tell chetty i'd be much obliged if you could procure me a phone and a sim -
the cheapest
that makes and receives calls will be more
than adequate
☟︎ decimation: asciilifeform: one problem with renting is
that it is difficult
to modify
the house for security systems
decimation: asciilifeform: well I would give
the cop credit, at least he knocked on door and said something
ben_vulpes: <trinque> asciilifeform: I was utterly mindfucked for
the majority of
the
time I first spent here << heh i remember
this
williamdunne: Oh sure, I'm definitely looking forward
to your product - but also like paper wallets
williamdunne: asciilifeform: I saw you
tear
the Entropy apart a-while-back, did
they fix your main concerns?
trinque: I
think it's essential
to know how
to operate weapons no matter who is in power
decimation: ultimately
the answer is: don't live where
the democratic police are in power
trinque: I'm sure I don't have
to
tell anyone here
that
decimation: were
the criminals unknown
to
the victims?
trinque: asciilifeform: sure
to be unpestered
there, until
the graveyard is paved