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nubbins`: because they're supplied externally by teat
nubbins`: asciilifeform this is like saying kittens don't need to learn how to kill
asciilifeform: and cannot be compared to closed system
asciilifeform: it is not a closed system, to use thermodynamic parlance
mircea_popescu: i recall this point where some derpy agent swore before the court he used excel spreadsheets to rape a db
asciilifeform: yes, mujahedeen don't hold territory, etc. BUT THEY DON'T NEED TO BUILD FACTORIES
adlai: "These techniques were developed around the principle of using an attacker's energy against him, rather than directly opposing it."
asciilifeform: iraq, afghan have very seriously perverted military thinking
nubbins`: (s.korean soldiers -- all of them -- have blackbelt in taekwondo. to what end?)
asciilifeform: but real armies - even asian armies - do not fight this way.
mircea_popescu: i think they're all essentially that in the end.
adlai: well, there's defending the self, and there's defending increasingly expanded notions of "self", until it morphes into yet another "sovereign"
asciilifeform: nubbins`: in mircea_popescu's world, as i understand, every soldier is naked but for his parachute, and ought to take what he needs from the locals
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's that azn fighting style where you don't particularly give a shit ?
asciilifeform: but even from the standpoint of 'i only wish to destroy the lizards' it does not make sense to disperse into atomized diversantes
mircea_popescu: what exactly is the point of defending anything ?
asciilifeform: adlai: mircea_popescu does not appear to be interested in defending anything (other than own house)
adlai: yet you'd disperse the red army? sure, disperse the offense, but how do you defend geography with individual saboteurs everywhere?
asciilifeform: i can see the perspective that 'two or more #b-a folks in a room is a target' but by that logic we ought not have conferences, no ?
asciilifeform: i must disagree with the notion that defending a spot of geography, small and purposeful, is inescapably retarded.
asciilifeform: pointing out that nothing we could do, foolish or clever, could ever resolve to it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im quite unconvinced of the latter. and the former reduces to... what exactly, "not everyone has the biography and talents of a computer user, windows plox" ?
adlai: leading to boom-and-bust cycles of patriotism... clearly, we need to regulate statism.
adlai: the trouble there is that you need to first have & enter trenches, for such chatter to happen
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the fact is, not everyone has the biography, talents, and education of a self-funding deep-cover operative; and physical sovereignty has its uses. it would not take very many 'don dunphy'ings to make #b-a very empty other than for mircea_popescu..
adlai: oh, i'm pretty sure that trench chatter was blowing gaping holes in patriotism for longer than trenches have been cool
mircea_popescu: no but srsly, 4chan and the internets have blown what looks like a permanent hole in the sort of deffective mental processes that are required for "patriotism" or whatever the pink-bellied shit involved in wwX was.
mircea_popescu: just how stupid am i supposed to be ?
mircea_popescu: i personally can't quite see how i'd manage to motivate myself to participate in yet another "we good they bad fight for great justic!!1" conflict.
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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm not entirely sold on this being so
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you appreciate how the task to defeat germany3 is quite different from what we're doing here ?
adlai: "uses simple analogue circuits, such as comparators, instead of a microprocessor in order to produce an unusually simple design"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well in the abstract it is dificult to evaluate. what exactly would be the task fo this red army ?
asciilifeform: (yes, aware that we had the 'semiconductor cuckoldry' discussion. it is nonsense if you are contemplating making something genuinely unique)
asciilifeform: there is such a thing as physical resources that are 1) concentrated spatially and 2) too unique to hijack like a vine hijacks tree.
asciilifeform wonders what mircea_popescu would do if put in command of the red army. imagines that he would order it to disperse, with no more than one man per square km, and operate only as saboteur groups.
mircea_popescu: haven't we gone through enough of that ?
mircea_popescu: but why would you want this ?
mircea_popescu: o no wait it wasn't you, some other guy was making dire warnings about how teligent mit is
mats: i didn't deny that there are showmen, or even hordes of them, there
mircea_popescu: mats but i thought you said ?
mats: fwiw the MIT undergrad exhibit was horrible
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ... looky here, I have no doubt i could probably pass some "new bitcoin country" real estate scam or other. i do not wish to. this, deliberately, and upon consideration, and against what random idiot may interpret as my patrimonial interest. << leads into the mega-question - what is the opposite of a real estate scam? or is this like the maxwellian hypothetical 'monopole magnet', where you have a mystery alien
nubbins`: like, they just got their knee kicked out by an angry horse, but if a lens swivelled their way, they'd muster up a winning smile?
nubbins`: still not sure i can pinpoint it... but have you ever met someone for whom photographs exist outside of time and space?
nubbins`: i came across this website while trying to figure out why Ploshay's appearance is somewhat unsettling to me
mircea_popescu: low level scamming, "i'ma call this empty jar MONEY and wait for idiots to deposit".
nubbins`: "Her latest projects consist of the creation of Tatiana Coin, the first ever artist cryptocurrency" WHAT ABOUT COINYE WEST?!
nubbins`: i had to make sure i wasn't on womensguitarassociation.com
nubbins`: i clicked on that one so i could chuckle about why she's randomly holding a guitar
nubbins`: mircea_popescu:he wasn't looking for any answer. he was trying to shoehorn disorganised remains of broken history into the future. as he keeps trying to do this he'll figure it out. <<< "you can't bribe the future with nostalgia"
nubbins`: 30 years in the wild and the source code says "should this bit be here?"
nubbins`: there was one comment in the code for notepad.exe: /* is this even supposed to be here? */
nubbins`: mircea_popescu:i want to reconsider that about as much as windows user wants to compile from source. <<< i recall hearty lels when whatever chunk of windows source code came out
nubbins`: asciilifeform:mentioned that 'computers were stolen, no sign of break-in, perhaps insider' <<< alf, the lizards struck the wrong house! did you replace your locks?
mircea_popescu: this is not actually true, but hey.
mats: 6:50:29 <+mircea_popescu> since mats brought it up : yeah, currently people can't audit bitbet's reserves. this is unfortunate, but i'm not going to do anything about it. << i was going a bit crazy auditing the code, thought id bungled it somehow
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 05:24:05; pete_dushenski: no more does the term mean 'cultured' or 'worldly' it seems
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-04-2015#1100590 << im not aware at any point the term meant cultured or wordly for anyone. perhaps as an insider thing, like people in daytime tv drama for young women seem to think this about themselves ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 05:19:55; pete_dushenski: http://www.timesofisrael.com/is-supporters-post-cartoon-depicting-obama-beheading/ << and it looks like isis beat la serenissima to the punch!
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-04-2015#1100585 << but obama's main selling point is that he's tall and hansome. why ruin a beautiful thing ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: alf : he just wants to hook up with local whores from the convenience of his own home. internets ftw!
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 04:08:26; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: confirmed for imaginationless except in regards to his own means of death
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 04:06:20; ben_vulpes: ;;later tell chetty i'd be much obliged if you could procure me a phone and a sim - the cheapest that makes and receives calls will be more than adequate
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-04-2015#1100564 << you want it, you got it. vip treatment beotch!!1 ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 03:54:56; asciilifeform: trinque: we have (for the most part) burglars here, rather than robbers. they wait until owner is out.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-04-2015#1100530 << on which line, trinque you'd seriously shoot a burglar ? and i don't mean shoot them in the head, just, one to the kneecap for good measure. seems to me woefully excessive. the... only time i was in a situation of that nature the dudes beat the shit out of the guy and i thought it was excessive even for the time and place. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: since mats brought it up : yeah, currently people can't audit bitbet's reserves. this is unfortunate, but i'm not going to do anything about it.
mircea_popescu: yes, i may consider young females for education, but that is neither here nor there. i did that before bitcoin, for that matter.
mircea_popescu: i am simply not interested in that sort of centralisation. i also think it's stupid, and self-defeating, and in no way different from you know, making gossipd on windows vista.
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 03:41:48; asciilifeform: (if you want to be considered, my understanding is - be young and female)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-04-2015#1100504 << looky here, I have no doubt i could probably pass some "new bitcoin country" real estate scam or other. i do not wish to. this, deliberately, and upon consideration, and against what random idiot may interpret as my patrimonial interest. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but i must say he's like the cutest one to date.
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 03:39:56; asciilifeform: methinks felipelalli is expressing the traditional frustration of the 3 to 6 month n00b to #b-a:
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-04-2015#1100494 << hehe yep totally. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-04-2015#1100488 << well, come to the conference next year, some people will know you. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 03:37:34; felipelalli: decimation: you're right. But would be so cool and useful if I really could use WoT to things in day to day and not only in dreams.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-04-2015#1100481 << the solution is probably to move your day-to-day. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i like the way this guy selects tasks for himself.
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 03:29:48; felipelalli: trinque: I know that. I am trying to convince the Brazilian community move to here, but it is being hard. The main community is still on Facebook.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-04-2015#1100472 << well when you're done with that would you please move on to convincing ugly women to be beautiful instead ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: williamdunne yes, it would be. it'd make it possible to be wrong, and then guilty. which is the main reason the law as a construct even exists : save people that.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-04-2015#1100467 << your motivations do not matter. not in this case, not in any other case. ☝︎
williamdunne: It would be tragic if they had to do some thinking
mircea_popescu: but hey, it's emotionally cheaper for them.
williamdunne: not to mention that the jury almost always considers law over morality
mircea_popescu: "tax the rich so you can clean up the mess we made! of this sidewalk and of our lives!"
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, imagine how the place looked after ows was done with it ? all the discarded packaging etc ? this was supposedly a group of civically-minded folks.
mircea_popescu: but see, the same people who can't be bothered to crypto anything... can't be bothered to nullify anything either. too much work.
mircea_popescu: actually the only useful function of a jury these days.
chetty: one of the good reasons for jury hasn't really been used ...nullification of bad law
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 02:57:55; asciilifeform: medieval juries also did not concern themselves with day-to-day idiocies.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-04-2015#1100452 << they were also how salem witch trials happened. actually, their reliable idiocy is why no noble would have EVER considered either submitting to such a jury, or condemning another noble. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "the only reason you want the jury is because you hope to trick it with things a judge wouldn't fall for."
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-04-2015#1100440 << amusingly enough in japan jury trials were (and perhaps still to some degree are) very dimly regarded. people thought that someone willing to cast his fortune on the disinterested call of a dozen uninformed people rather than have a specialist handle it could not possibly have any sort of case. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 02:48:26; decimation: what's a jury trial other than having your wot judge your actions?
mircea_popescu: in fact, the ability of a user to create pseudo-trust out of nothing, just like the "ability" of a perpetuum mobile to extract energy out of the void, just like the "ability" of a government to print money are the same thing, really : the degrading macula of subhumanity.
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 02:46:21; asciilifeform: in much the same way, you cannot extract trustworthiness from the aether
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-04-2015#1100429 << quite. i suppose the trust <=> energy analogy is pretty good. trust is also in a very similar relation to sound money, ie, sure "people" (subhumans, really) can "create trust out of nothing". this is about as relevant to actual trust as freshly printed usd are to money. ☝︎