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ben_vulpes: <assbot> ... btcalpha << ty kako!
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 06:05:52; assbot: Trust relationship from user assbot to user menahem: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=assbot&to=menahem | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/menahem/
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111771 << the first link does not work from public log because of some weird character ☝︎
williamdunne: Naphex: Thanks for the rate
williamdunne: Definitely, just working on getting the library working
williamdunne: Maybe I'm trying to pander to most people too much
williamdunne: Sure no, but most people would call dollars fungible - even though they certainly are not
mircea_popescu: williamdunne essentially, "fungible" and "non discriminatory" are the same thing.
williamdunne: If a club lets anyone in, so long as they can travel to the club its not exactly discriminatory, just a matter of practicality
williamdunne: Which is very different to say, requiring you to be of a certain nationality, not be doing certain types of business etc
williamdunne: Sure, it doesn't care who you are so long as you have keys and the ability to sign
asciilifeform: (sign tx with paper & pen ?)
asciilifeform: and "anyone and everyone being able to have a bitcoin wallet" << l0l, no computer needed, aha
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 12:48:59; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell williamdunne explain this difference between "1 btc = 1 btc" and "anyone and everyone being able to have a bitcoin wallet".
williamdunne: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111853 <<< There is a night club with free drinks, but only if you can get past the bounder ☝︎
jurov: davout: yes, i do the btc-dev list
menahem: i gotta go.. thanks for time + insight thus far.
asciilifeform: further c3ism: anyone posted a summary of the 'fuel filters' conversation ?
menahem: show me how it would go... is that a 'constructive discussion' by her definition ?
mircea_popescu: menahem "like how?" as in, show me how it would go. quote this putative comparative exampler ?
menahem: hmm, often in your posts you provide a secondary story. in this case (RIPple), the congenital defect. which is often my visual takeaway on your point.
mircea_popescu: here's another thing that doesn't work : "The worst part, is Torrie Fischer is competent with PGP 4. My advice to her, is" << the problem being that i can readily see her cv, but i don't see yours. from whence do you give her advice ? this jars.
mircea_popescu: for one thing, it isn't the peak of stupidty. for the other thing, making pronouncements like that dun work. you gotta show, not tell.
mircea_popescu: "This took a bit for the stupidity to really sink in. Like, sink sink in. Her comment “I have to say I don’t really appreciate reading something like that and would prefer a much more constructive discussion about web payments” is the absolute peak of the stupidity. " << this was the problem
mircea_popescu: im trying to remember now what this was about
menahem: i didn't know how far I should push it - mention her on twitter, etc.. maybe best to leave the heavy hand to you ? i'm too much of a luvva. but maybe my definition of luvvin is wrong.
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 06:08:42; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell menahem you really don't know how to bother girls.
menahem: mircea_popescu thanks for the vote of confidence.
assbot: Female sexuality, human sexuality. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1J0AqzZ )
mircea_popescu: why not ? cause fucktard so decided! nothing negative could ever represent these idiots' "twu vawue".
mircea_popescu: dude is all "anyone can search and find out someone's marks, ~which do not represent the value of the respective person~".
mircea_popescu: how about you know, doing a good fucking job at the exam, so you don't have to be ashamed of it a few years later.
mircea_popescu: im gonna erase history to satisfy the hopes and aspirations of the subhuman horde five minutes after i gangbang literal sows.
mircea_popescu: fancy that!
assbot: Rezultate la Bacalaureat, sesiunea Iunie 2011, judetul Tulcea on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1z8oBYp )
mircea_popescu: most recently, http://trilema.com/2011/rezultate-la-bacalaureat-sesiunea-iunie-2011-judetul-tulcea/#comment-113907 "these information WERE of public interest but through the passage of time 'have become' private"
mircea_popescu: now there's about one a week bitching about how you know, this shouldn't exist!!11
mircea_popescu: and in the lines of drama : a few years ago the ro education ministry failed utterly at publishing natl highschool exams. so i hacked their shit and published the lists.
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 09:53:45; assbot: The Bot Bubble: Click Farms Have Inflated Social Media Currency | The New Republic ... ( http://bit.ly/1z1Svx5 )
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111833 << lmao No ?! ?! ?! could this be possibru ?!?! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: for that matter
mircea_popescu: the complexity brtought about any attempt to implement "convenience" is outright staggering huh.
fluffypony: well they could always use Namecoin instead
mircea_popescu: because you know, usg keeps a master key, or so the rumour goes.
fluffypony: not unless you have their DNSSEC private keys
mircea_popescu: so if i posion dns cache, can i also steal payments for that domain ?
mircea_popescu: mkay. well i'm exiting this process with message "a project to provide bitcoin-deanonymizers with a domain-address pairing method, powered by the general public's expectations of convenience and lack of expectation of guarantees" which sums up to "fluff".
fluffypony: (preferably with dnscrypt-proxy running, and point it at that)
fluffypony: or just run this: https://github.com/openalias/openalias-api
mircea_popescu: ie "What is the application-side process?" ?
mircea_popescu: ok but skip to where
fluffypony: then skip the About section, that's all sales blurb :-P
mircea_popescu: but i gotta be able to figure out what stuff is too!
mircea_popescu: you folk gotta hire someone to do proper tech writing. there's nothing wrong with having sales copy,
mircea_popescu: "What is OpenAlias? OpenAlias seeks to provide a way to simplify aliasing amidst a rapidly shifting technology climate. " << i mean come on.
mircea_popescu: "By leveraging DNSSEC we are able to prevent MITM-style attacks on an alias." doesn't tell me very much.
fluffypony: as long as it treats a DNSSEC as a hard fail it can
fluffypony: that said, a DNSSEC fail is a soft fail (as not all zones support DNSSEC at this stage) - so it'll present the address for user validation
mircea_popescu: (im still trying to understand exactly how this works)
fluffypony: since DNSSEC follows a signature chain back to the root zone your ISP's DNS server can't fake the record
fluffypony: the registrar doesn't set DNS records, necessarily, only what the nameservers are (ie. SOA)
mircea_popescu: fluffypony that aside, how does this thing solve situatiosn where dns zones are ambiguous ? (say registrar and host don't match)
assbot: SSL Server Test: openalias.org (Powered by Qualys SSL Labs) ... ( http://bit.ly/1DMRIvZ )
mircea_popescu: what the hell ssl be you using
assbot: OpenAlias - Simplifying the World ... ( http://bit.ly/1DMR8hI )
assbot: OpenAlias - Simplifying the World ... ( http://bit.ly/1DMRnZX )
fluffypony: it's a static site, so just use the archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20150403023536/https://openalias.org/
fluffypony: I'm guessing the CloudFlare node you're hitting is being wonky
assbot: OpenAlias - Simplifying the World ... ( http://bit.ly/1DMR8hI )
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell williamdunne explain this difference between "1 btc = 1 btc" and "anyone and everyone being able to have a bitcoin wallet". ☟︎
mircea_popescu: Naphex that's consumer level stuff.
assbot: Short Term Update | Bitcoin Trading Signals ... ( http://bit.ly/1KjHGYq )
scoopbot_revived: News! Short Term Update URL: https://btctrading.wordpress.com/2015/04/26/short-term-update-21/
davout: jurov_ you manage the mailing list amirite?
assbot: Bot makes $2.4 million reading the Web: Meet the guy it cost a fortune. ... ( http://bit.ly/1z1SARk )
assbot: The Bot Bubble: Click Farms Have Inflated Social Media Currency | The New Republic ... ( http://bit.ly/1z1Svx5 ) ☟︎
kakobrekla: what is this monero bs in ba
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 05:17:59; mircea_popescu: williamdunne so in retrospect : "immutable, fungible, non-discriminatory, and trustless" is really redundant. fungible includes "non-discriminatory".
williamdunne: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111640 <<< To the layman it seems they would be different. Assuming you're a fairly boring person as far as you're concerned dollars are pretty fungible (obviously not entirely and dependent on payment system), but they're not even close to non-discriminatory. I guess the difference IMO is between 1 btc = 1 btc, and anyone and everyone being able to have 'a ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 05:33:34; mircea_popescu: williamdunne "The cost of enforcement of contracts grows over time as an increasing number of loopholes are found - as described in an article by Mircea Popescu" you know you could ~link it~ o.O
williamdunne: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111677 <<< Originally it was linked in the footnotes, not sure what happened to that. I'll add it again later ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 04:05:37; asciilifeform: think this way - if the problem were entirely contained in an -available- set of abstractions of the language, the program would not need to be written!
davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111529 <<< if it's a set you still need to stitch them together ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 04:35:18; mircea_popescu: before smartphones, it was not uncommon to stop two people in the street whose clocks were 30 minutes apart.
davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111584 <<< never happened to me ☝︎
Naphex: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111612 << See: http://www.tau.ac.il/~tromer/handsoff/ / https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-devel/2013-December/028102.html for the acoustic side channel fix ☝︎
mircea_popescu: random shitty boost thing ?
cazalla: or anyone else for that matter
cazalla: ;;later tell bingoboingo what website does this one https://bitcoinnewsmagazine.com/ remind you of?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell menahem you really don't know how to bother girls. ☟︎
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mircea_popescu: "We're going to co-opt the technology, OK? End. Of. Story." lolk.
mircea_popescu: now do me a personal favour and ditch that retarded disqus thing
jayk: are there any places that do instant ACH?
mircea_popescu: the good news being that if you stick to it, it'll improve.
mircea_popescu: " off the top of my head the United Kingdom, South Africa, Singapore, India, and China have instant and cheap (in many cases free) bank transfer systems." << nonsense. your example is SEPA. rest sucks by comparison. (or gyropay before that).
jayk: ran away to saskatoon
jayk: i've tried to find her on fb but i dont know what happened to her
mircea_popescu: sounds more like the latter.
jayk: she was pretty hot with big tits