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assbot: Logged on 27-04-2015 10:29:08; mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes / asciilifeform : re "build an exhaustive knowledge of every company that has ever made computer parts and an exhaustive understanding of which parts were made well and not at which point in time." << the correct approach to this is to do what mp has been saying needs doing for ages and start a bitcoin hoster.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-04-2015#1112439 << while i should like to see this happen (who wouldn't) - must confess that it is a titanic problem, not unlike bitcoin manufacturing incidentally. one ends up building a gigantic funnel of btc to usd ☝︎
mircea_popescu: soviets sunk on the former, the us is sinking on the latter, pretty much.
assbot: Logged on 27-04-2015 09:22:40; mircea_popescu: well, they did invent them alright. they just made the mistake to make them women.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-04-2015#1112429 << if they had used hot ones, would be unstoppable ☝︎
mircea_popescu: according to whom ?
williamdunne: Well there are lots of instances of violence where the people committing it should have been on the receiving end
mircea_popescu: the thing with violence is that it's pretty self-explainatory.
williamdunne: Well yeah, but the violence I'm describing is going against the people who shouldn't be receiving it
mircea_popescu: besides, a little bit of violence would go a very long way towards resolving most of the western problems currently.
mircea_popescu: if violence worked, the situation wouldn't be stable currently.
williamdunne: Because if more people are able to keep their funds away from government tendrils, it seems like it would do more damage than a few. While a few people have a lot of money to hide, a lot of people can be turned against them (i.e "evil tax avoiders") and violence works
mircea_popescu: so then why wopuld it hold up here.
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: Nah, then you just end up bloating the chain with welfare spam
mircea_popescu: im not sure how the logic worked there.
williamdunne: bitcoin doesn't take over through convincing random fuckwit of "more benefits". bitcoin takes over by raping the state. permanently. <<< See, I totally agree with this. But this is why I think that there should be bigger blocks (not Gavin's proposal, but statically bigger). Easier to rape the state surely if its less inconvenient and more people can do so
mircea_popescu: then OboombaIII is more than welcome to use all his cards for all the benefits he wants, whatever they may be. it won't be food, but hey, a rich life of the mind doth not require material contraptions.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin doesn't take over through convincing random fuckwit of "more benefits". bitcoin takes over by raping the state. permanently.
mircea_popescu: because no matter what, govt will keep getting that money, and keep seeing him as a worthy expense.
mircea_popescu: dude proceeds from this locus where no matter what, he will keep on getting money on his govt issued card.
mircea_popescu: "No thanks. I'll keep using my card. It has way too many benefits not to. I'll switch to Bitcoin when it's easier to use, offers buyer protection and has more benefits than cc's. Which won't be anytime soon." << funny how dynamic equilibrium perceived as static works.
jurov: what's this "justusranvier thing"?
jurov: waitwhat? in murica chicks flock to grindr?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It is amazing how much more productive the conversation gets when discussing logistics of dating sites instead of derping over bans
mircea_popescu: "we will deliver chicks to you because you're so speshul"
mircea_popescu: so fucking stupid this. who the shit would enter into a contract with justus ranvier and why exactly ?
davout: obviously hearn concludes that it's really necessary to push the block size
davout: and now, hearn and him are stuck derping at how micro-payments and smart contracts would have prevented the whole thing
BingoBoingo: Grindr's the one dicks use to find nearby dicks
mircea_popescu goes to look at this wonder
BingoBoingo: On the typical USian dating site, gender matters. Other than on grinder the dating site will rarely ever have a shortage of dicks.
davout: "Are you sure the reason you assume the admin was correct is because the admin was paid, and not because of the genders of the involved parties?"
davout: this justusranvier thing keeps on giving
mircea_popescu: lol fecal transplant
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for Naphex from 2 to 3 with note: Knows his shit, and willing to share it
williamdunne: !rate Naphex 3 Knows his shit, and willing to share it
williamdunne: Naphex: Awesome, I'll have a dig thanks
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assbot: EquityBookEngine.java - alots - Automated Limit Order Trading Simulator - Google Project Hosting ... ( http://bit.ly/1A5neo9 )
Naphex: you use binarySearch with a Time-Price to find the insertion point for your order. Thus your list/map will always be sorted
williamdunne: davout: Haven't looked to much at the architecture of that yet, but you're right
williamdunne: Naphex: Still don't understand how to handle the order of the maps though
williamdunne: Naphex: True, I still need to take a proper look at that
davout: and if you can't there's really not that much point in writing something really fast
Naphex: williamdunne: and with binary insert it can do a lot more then tha
davout: you can spread order acceptation, and trade settlement, just not the matching
davout: williamdunne: why? the matching engine should be the only single-threaded bottleneck
williamdunne: Naphex: True
Naphex: williamdunne: you aren't doing 'real-matching'. those stats aren't really saying much
williamdunne: davout: Well for example, the Java one that I wrote can match 160k/s when pumping in random data directly. But when we add the overheads for actually accepting and handling orders from customers it will not do close to that
Naphex: williamdunne: the good option is to hire the right people and develop an engine according to your infrastrucutre and needs
davout: williamdunne: not really, if the theoretical number is that different from the actual one, you have a problem
Naphex: williamdunne: anyway trading engines are not that hard to write, they do require some experience to get right.
williamdunne: davout: Isn't the point that the in-theory number is about an order of magnitude higher than what it can handle when in actual use
jurov: lol true
mircea_popescu: as opposed to this kind of 100k
jurov: if someone gave $100k to alf for bitcoind development instead...
davout: yep, because you know, what's really needed and important is that they're able to match 1m orders/s instead a meager 10k orders/s
mircea_popescu: so many of them, made with an apparent firm conviction that somehow they'll bring recognition...
mircea_popescu: in the bitcoin space, "matching engines" are the equivalent of crusted socks in adolescent boys' bedrooms.
mircea_popescu: <davout> williamdunne: some dudes made some code for a matching engine, not really noteworthy << actually it's the most oversupplied intem in stock.
williamdunne: davout: I thought some of the structure was pretty cool with the Elixir message queue
davout: Naphex: there's this mono thing by miguel de icaza iirc, no idea if it's still a thing tho
Naphex: williamdunne: what davout said. C# is a disadvantage though. You'd have to be crazy to run trading infrastructure on windows sesrvers
davout: jurov: yea, i subscribed a few times but never received a confirmation
jurov: hi davout, you wanted to ask about mailing list?
davout: also they claim to have sunk $100k in the development, but somehow they're opensourcing it now, because incorporating somewhere else than russia isn't practical...
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williamdunne: Naphex: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/33y97d/our_contribution_to_bitcoin_community/ -- what do you think of this
mircea_popescu: davout hey, did fetlife break their signup process ?
mircea_popescu: unsurprisingly, it was the silk road judge.
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kakobrekla: i can make assbot say !rate whatever but it wont eval that
mircea_popescu: was giving lazyass foundation peeps time to comment, but nothing lasts 4evar.
kakobrekla: wait i need to edit the ratings ?
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davout: cazalla: oh god, this is priceless
mircea_popescu: i might be the only one left doing things this way, but afaik the way is, you give the woman a task. she either does it or doesn't.
cazalla: just imagine 6 months later and he's ready to ask her out and she says no.. total melt down instead of moving on to the next one 6 months prior
cazalla: he actually took a few days off of okcupid because of it.. "Naturally, I reported that conversation for abusive behaviour and I took a break from the site for a few days because frankly I was not expecting that and was a bit shaken from the experience."
mircea_popescu: must suck to be poor / powerless / clueless / etc.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the differences between me and justusranvier dude are amusing. fetlife vs okcupid, the locus of butthurt, etc.
mircea_popescu: protip : don't use platforms. they're bad for you.
cazalla: i guess women don't want to hear libertarian shit on okcupid
mircea_popescu is curious what comes of this
assbot: Logged on 27-04-2015 03:18:03; asciilifeform: jurov: ...there are new miniitx mobos with ECC support... << where?! link plz. i'd buy at least one to try
mircea_popescu: broadly speaking, anything without the lego quality is not a real thing, but a toy. that's what the "no user serviceable parts inside" sticker communicates to the world : this is not a tool, this is a toy.
mircea_popescu: a laptop is a toy, like a phone or a xbox, something kids that aren't smart enough / rich enough to own computers get for xmas from their weird uncles.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes "If Macintosh laptops (long held up as the gold standard of quality in personal computing) " << nobody ever held a laptop as an acceptable form of personal computing. let alone any sort of standard.
mircea_popescu: lmao c3 drove a secession in the us across east/west lines ?! who knew that thing's so brittle and easily fractured.
mircea_popescu: also i find the idea that various things have different webs of trust silly. yes, idiots use meat wots. this is exactly how aristotle's "no politics is your politics" thing went. otherwise, the wot's for all things.
mircea_popescu: because nobody knows about computer parts quite like the people doing procurement for a datacenter. so if you run your own metal and sublet to people, you're in the best position to learn these exactly. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 27-04-2015 09:19:38; mircea_popescu: !rate TheButterZone 1 Dude got a scary whisper.
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-04-2015#1112423 <<< scary whisper? more like didn't want to wake parents ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes / asciilifeform : re "build an exhaustive knowledge of every company that has ever made computer parts and an exhaustive understanding of which parts were made well and not at which point in time." << the correct approach to this is to do what mp has been saying needs doing for ages and start a bitcoin hoster. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 27-04-2015 03:58:31; Adlai: reddit is inferior to irc on nearly the same level as the inferiority between facebook and actual conversation
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-04-2015#1112293 << on one end. on the other end, it has the advantage that it can allow *everyone* to pretend like they're part of the conversation. here people know nobody is listening to them, because they have no voice. on facebook/reddit/etc, every idiot can pretend that he's being heard because he can read himself and so why not. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 27-04-2015 03:57:05; EllieAsksWhy: I initially knew Web of Trust as the Finnish company mywot which has totally gone to hell since someone bought them out a year ago. Your Web of Trust is more like the real one, that proceeded mywot by over a decade, right?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-04-2015#1112289 << the website thing never made any sense. nor was it supposed to i guess. this wot is "like" the old gpg/pgp wot, yes. ☝︎