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mod6: haha. wow, did you ever actually
try
to get used
to using
that alf?
ascii_field: i even bought items from ru,
they came in wooden crates
mircea_popescu: and now we understand alf's real
tether
to
the mordor lands.
mod6: i
think
the only
thing I've ever gotten off ebay was an UltraSPARC II box
jurov: what's jit? just in
time?
ascii_field: virtually all of my
tools, incidentally, come from ebay and for most of my life i could not have obtained
them anywhere else.
ascii_field: the shops only supply items 'for
the cattle' -
that is, most common-as-dirt and aggressively spamvertized
ascii_field: mircea_popescu:
they are not entirely unobtainable in usa. just, again, have
to buy online.
mircea_popescu: samsung makes some pretty excellent ones, recent model
too
ascii_field: there is not sufficient 'mass'
there for
the kind of
things i buy.
mircea_popescu: amusingly :
the normal cellphone "sunk". in
the us. it's amply abundant and vastlyt supplied in
the real world
tho.
ascii_field: recall my experience
trying
to buy items on otc ?
ascii_field: but, for example, ebay may well become
the only practical source for amd cpu where i live, once amd finally sinks
mircea_popescu: it all flows from
the whole "we can't ~private~ message if we don't have a private relationship"
thing. da fuck would i be doing on "online marketplace", dunno anyone
there.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: afaik you do buy it (pre-08 pc parts, etc) but
through meatwot suppliers
mircea_popescu: which is why from my point of view
the whole
thing is dross. i don't buy
the stuff you're
talking about and why wouldn't i want
to be in a shop.
ascii_field: from my point of view,
the whole rest of ebay is dross
ascii_field: esp. when
the rare
things in question are not 'collectible' idiocies but obscure components
ascii_field: the 'buy and sell only rare
things' heuristic - perhaps accidentally - more or less eliminates scammers, in my experience
mircea_popescu: ascii_field similarly,
the "reputation system" works perfectly for anyone not using it.
ascii_field: chetty:
this
typically happens only
to interesting people.
chetty: much like banks
these days :P
chetty: the issue with ebay,paypal etc. is
they can and do close and freeze accounts anytime
they feel like it
ascii_field: incidentally,
this is why i hoard hardware - because supply chain is so hit-and-miss
mircea_popescu: ;;later
tell mike_c yo, want a fiverr acct ? prolly got a coupla hundred bucks in it.
ascii_field: more or less a
total monopoly with respect
to what i use it for.
ascii_field: virtually all of my hardware was purchased
through ebay.
ascii_field: ebay works well for getting 'golden
toilets' for
their actual market price vs
the usg
tentacular price
ascii_field: not having
to go
to shops, get 'money orders' cut, and have some semblance of insurance - appealed
to people
ascii_field: mircea_popescu:
the payment
thing was
the mega-feature
mircea_popescu: afaik
they only got out of
the mtgox business ("collectibles") cca 2005 or someshit.
ascii_field: before
that - as a boy - was buying/selling junk on usenet
mircea_popescu: in any case, a) ebay hasn't been around for 20 years, b) 20 years is only a long
time because you're
too young
to be "thinking about
things" and c)
the notion
that ebay's abomination works... AAA plus would do
thinks again.
mircea_popescu: WolfGoethe it's kinda funny
that someone feels compelled
to pitch
this sort of retardation here about every quarter.
trinque: this pressuposes
that you want everyone at
the
table, which I don't.
trinque: either
they can and
therefore could use one distinct from an applcation, or
they can't and neither works
trinque: this design-by-condescension
thing isn't something I get behind;
that "the people" can't understand a WoT... who cares
WolfGoethe: trinque
that's not realsitic, decentralizing
things like
that is another huge project, cannot mvp such a
thing. ebay has
their own internal system for 20 years, works
trinque: this is why we have
the WoT
WolfGoethe: my bros r working on such a project and I have really been
thinking about it
WolfGoethe: essentially crowd sourcing
the swift network
to
the people. let
them be
the on and off ramps
WolfGoethe: such a market should
take care
to put out video guides for each payment method
trade
trinque: you have
to clearly define your proposal before anyone can be "into it"
WolfGoethe: should give folks
the option
to verify if
they really want
to for
trust's sake etc.. i am sure pro
traders won't mind
WolfGoethe: not really. i do it pretty anon right now... as opposed
to coinbase and circle who know everything about me, other
traders don;t care
jurov: that usually makes
the second problem worse
WolfGoethe: an escrow service dressed up for
the mainstream so people can hustle with
their financial
tools and make money
trading bitcoins etc..
WolfGoethe: proper peer
to peer is online only. using bitcoin as
the lubricant between fiancial instruments like bank deposits, wire, paypal my cash, prepaid cards, western union , domestic intnational methods etc.. and all currencies
trinque: WolfGoethe: what would
the next level be?
jurov: and exposing my personal data/location
to snatchers
WolfGoethe: for example.
taking localbitcoin.com
to
the next level. like grubhub for money
jurov: WolfGoethe for me it's much better
to
trade on davout's exchange
WolfGoethe: anyone
think bitcoin peer
to peer
trading has alot of room for growth?
trinque: what struck me is how on-point maslow's propaganda is,
the exact opposite of what it should be, not some arbitrary other
thing
trinque: mircea_popescu: ran into your hierarchy of needs article by way of pete. interesting
to note
that at
the
top of maslow's was
this vaguely communist "self
transcendence" idea, whereas at
the
top of yours,
the man's concept of self seems
to engulf others.
mircea_popescu: o whether
the key is authentic your guess is still as good as mine."
mircea_popescu: "To add insult
to injury, despite
the emails containing references
to
the aforementioned website and key,
the following Microsoft announcements on July 10 and 11 were actually signed by
the key 0xF0B7406D which is not referenced as a key used for current Microsoft announcements.
This key actually does contain a small number of signatures from external users, but as with 0xA92965F2 none from any Microsoft employee. As
t mircea_popescu: and re
the pyx
thing : argentina had a very aspirational relationship with england. kinda why
the faulkland war was such a big deal, sort-of like rambunctious kid going after dad, in a sense.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i
think it's because for a while
they added new keys in batches ?
mod6: mircea_popescu: lot of nice pics in
there
thx!
mod6: Lady quasi-butt, depicted with all
the skill and guile of somebody
that's never seen one. << lol
lobbes: 'The Bush administration relied more heavily on psychologists
than psychiatrists or other health professionals
to monitor many interrogations'
mircea_popescu: i
think
there are some such, mostly with confederate dollars, in
the us
ascii_field: mircea_popescu:
the gold balance suggests
that
they had something like engl. 'trial of
the pyx'. did
they ?
mircea_popescu: well not many countries have
this much experience with it.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu:
The museum of
the National Bank of Argentina << mega-article.
mircea_popescu: the good news being
that neither a or b are actual
things, or have any sort of hope of long
term survival. just
the froth of our days, soon
to be gone back into
the darkness
that spawned
them.
mircea_popescu: it's irresolvable, for as long as a) "being special" is valued formally rather
than substantially, and b) people get
to make choice on
the mere grounds of existing.
mircea_popescu: anyway,
that's
the broad conflict. "being special" having been promulgated as a social good, and smashing
the classification being a bona fide way
to manufacture specialness, you now have
the conflict of
the boring who aspire
to hack
their way
to attention vs
the people who don't care about
them and wish
to remain able
to not care about
them.
mircea_popescu: obviously
the correct reaction would just be what i did on
the meat list, ie, group all weird under a single "Weird" heading. but
then obviously
this irks
the delusions of individuality of
the individual weird involved, so
there's
that line of bitching.
mircea_popescu: and
this is why
the
traditional statement of
the objection among
the wrong side of kink high is "i don't want
them imposing
their stuff on me".
assbot: Logged on 29-04-2015 15:11:30; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu forgot e) sane person adds kludge
to enable some semblance of civilization
to function, creating schizoid split and opening would
that bleeds complexity
mircea_popescu: lobbes let me
tell you why. because if servers introduce a new response code, you're stuck either making your browser aware of it, or else put up with
the constant bitching.
bagels7: where as a man
that was secure could admit
that a
trans woman is hot despite not wanting
to sleep with her
lobbes: in
terms of avoiding people
lobbes: bagels7,
that is ultimately his problem
though, no? Why change your lifestyle based on others?
bagels7: mad at himself because he couldnt
tell what I was
mircea_popescu: williamdunne by now
they've completely lost any sort of relation between words. it's just... word word word word.
bagels7: [11:38] <+mircea_popescu> how do you know it's faggot insecurity ? << When I am waiting at a bus stop at 2 in
the morning and a guy walks by and pretends
to be waiting for
the bus as an excuse
to
talk
to me while I am merely being polite
then after 15 minutes has
the nerve
to
tell me
that I deceived him when he was only being nice
to get laid
williamdunne: Isn't violence against
transsexualism also generally considered homophobia, or at least some sort of xenophobia
mircea_popescu: or else why do [mostly old women] go
to church ? because
they're affraid
they're secretly god ?
mircea_popescu: while it's
true
that it probably shares
that source with all sorts of nuttery (religious fervor, for instance), i very much doubt
the actual motivator is what's proposed, ie, "dude is secretly gay and fighting it overtly"
mircea_popescu: obviously sexual normativity is enforced on some sort of level irrespectively of
the
type.
mircea_popescu: incidentally,
the original (mostly politically driven) explanation for violence against homosexuals - some sort of "homophobia" suffers a lot seeing how ALL SORTS of other sexual behaviours elicit
the same violent response. such as
transsexualism, or pedophilia.
☟︎ lobbes: <bagels7> I stay away from men in general. << you spend
time in
this channel
though. About 95% men from what I guess
bagels7: As someone who is
transgender I stay away from men in general. I make men angry
that would rather kill me
than
to deal with
their faggot insecurity
mod6: i just realized i can zoom out on
this... looking more and more areodynamic every day.