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ascii_field: 'A female juror had accused her male colleague of trying to poison her food, and on Tuesday Marino mentioned that the conflict may have involved an avocado sandwich.'
danielpbarron: all you need is to install some sort of TFTP server on your workstation, and use the built in flashing tools of pogo to set some parameters to connect to your workstation when it boots
danielpbarron: davout, only necessary if your doing the serial connection soldering thing
danielpbarron: davout, yeah that's why i'm rewriting; it's about the workstation connecting to pogo
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davout: (referring to http://danielpbarron.com/pogo/howto.txt)
davout: danielpbarron: in your docs, 2.2.2 refer to building a kernel for the workstation talking to the pogo, not building a kernel for the pogo itself, or am i heavily confused?
mircea_popescu: so basically... current blocks are just big enough to interdict 5400 rpm
ascii_field: ^ the down side of how 'unobtrusive' disk cache is implemented on linux is that if ram is 'redlined' to the hilt, there is - approximately - no disk caching at all.
assbot: Experiments and fun with the Linux disk cache ... ( http://bit.ly/1EITva3 )
danielpbarron: the 5400 rpm one with an up-to-date data dir copied in goes just fast enough to stay about 200 blocks behind the rest of the network at all times; perhaps slowly losing ground
mircea_popescu: almost there danielpbarron
danielpbarron: pete_dushenski, my SSD one is still going and I have no reason to suspect it won't eventually sync
ascii_field: so needs to be 16-64MB at min.
danielpbarron: comes as no surprise to me; that's exactly the bottle neck i ran into when first getting into running a node
mircea_popescu: ascii_field actually... a disk cache wouldn't need to be much larger than what, 1mb ?
ascii_field: so pogo node lives or dies by the actual speed of the drive.
ascii_field: <danielpbarron> on a related note, my 5400 rpm pogo cannot sync << i spoke of this briefly at c3. the almost deadly-certain explanation is that there is no ram to spare for the customary disk cache
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: did the ssd make it ?
assbot: Logged on 01-05-2015 15:44:09; mats: another fun fact: Android doesn't seem to implement the only BLE key exchange mechanism not vulnerable to eavesdropping.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-05-2015#1117836 << coincidentally, the coincidental coincidences coincide. ☝︎
danielpbarron: i'm rewriting some stuff now, adding to wiki
ascii_field: davout: be aware that we don't have a battlefield-ready 0.5.3.x as of yet.
assbot: Logged on 01-05-2015 15:34:28; mats: this week, a guy broke his entire network stack by trying to install bluetooth drivers
davout: ascii_field: i have the physical pogos you gave me, an ethernet cable, a power adapter, an internet connection, a few usb sticks, a working debian, and a 120gb sata disk that fits in the pogo. what's the easiest way to set it up as a bitcoin node
davout: ascii_field: so what's the simplest way of doing it?
ascii_field: or even enable tftp and use experimental os (e.g., mine) without reflashing at all
assbot: Logged on 01-05-2015 16:14:34; davout: hrm.. i was under the impression it was possible to somehow re-flash the pogo from a simple USB stick without soldering anything
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-05-2015#1117867 << not only this, but can reflash without any physical parts at all, from stock os ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 01-05-2015 15:22:10; pete_dushenski: or using serial comm software other than minicom ??
assbot: Logged on 01-05-2015 15:21:39; pete_dushenski: ^has anyone set one of these up with freebsd using instructions other than those found here ? http://rtfm.net/FreeBSD/ERL/
pete_dushenski: lulz. $lnkd -25% on the week. go social media go !
davout: yeah, the curl bit if i understand correctly
danielpbarron: the thing has a built in method for turning on ssh without any extreme modifications, and from there you can do all else
davout: so the first thing i should do is try to access it through SSH, and work from there, right?
davout: ok, sounds much better wrt industrializing their setup
danielpbarron: as long as you don't botch the re-flash, it should be possible to do everything over ethernet
davout: haha, ok nice, guess i'm going to put the pogo back together then :-)
davout: hrm.. i was under the impression it was possible to somehow re-flash the pogo from a simple USB stick without soldering anything ☟︎
davout: ben_vulpes: ty
davout: danielpbarron: so, do you have instructions on how to set up the pogo? does it necessarily imply soldering wizardry?
pete_dushenski: now to see if i can re-install edgeos and start over :)
pete_dushenski: so unconfigured freebsd has no way of talking to minicom or anything else. it's just a file on a drive.
pete_dushenski: instead of establishing a serial connection with 'edgeos' first, i installed freebsd on the usb drive first
pete_dushenski: okie dokie, pete the n00b might've just isolated the issue...
danielpbarron: if you do wind up using ubuntu, the live cd is suitable ; you can even "install" screen to the temporary system without actually writing to your hard drive
danielpbarron: i'm surprised it says the file doesn't exist when you say you saw it in /dev/
danielpbarron: for me, the serial adapter is numbered
danielpbarron: 115200 is the baud rate
danielpbarron: once you have screen, it's as easy as typing screen /dev/cu.usbserial 115200
danielpbarron: and that thing i just quoted makes it sound like screen is already on OS X; try typing screen --version in your terminal
danielpbarron: for me, serial adapter is only accessible as root, although i think i read somewhere there are things you can do to make it work for other users
danielpbarron: "A collection of scripts that work together to manage multiple invocations of GNU Screen to overcome some of its limitations on Mac OS X."
ben_vulpes: ah yeah, but that's annoying and complicated with a future, unlike your current "dead end"
danielpbarron: because that's the most annoying part really
pete_dushenski: setting up the edgerouter with freebsd is proving to be exactly that!
mats: another fun fact: Android doesn't seem to implement the only BLE key exchange mechanism not vulnerable to eavesdropping. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: as an alternative to minicom for serial communication between desktop and edgerouter
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: forgive my late arrival to the thread, but why are we talking about screen on os x?
mats: so... given that the out of band key exchange is the most difficult to implement, that's effectively a selective backdoor.
mats: Fun fact: the BLE (Bluetooth Low Energy) spec provides three key exchange mechanisms, two of the three which do not provide any passive eavesdropping protection
danielpbarron: i'm reading the thing you pasted, and the instructions are very similar to adulterating a pogo
mats: i like the idea of wireless headphones but the bluetooth stack is horribly damaged
danielpbarron: can you try to use screen instead?
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: this *will* happen.
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: that's where i'm at, yes. serial comm software 'minicom' doesn't want to work.
danielpbarron: you should better learn gentoo or something though
pete_dushenski: more battery management, which is what 'modern lyf' seems to reduce to.
danielpbarron: not so bad; i used ubuntu to do that with pogo for my first attempted after soldering the serial thing onto it
pete_dushenski: mats: i don't see the appeal of wireless headphones, mostly because they're another thing to charge with another cable
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: that, yes.
mats: he had wireless headphones he wanted to use at his desk
danielpbarron: pete_dushenski, oh you mean use ubuntu on the machine from which you are connecting to the edgerouter/
mats needs to read the linux kernel
mats: i never figured out why, but the kernel seemed convinced there was a hardware switch thrown someplace
pete_dushenski: wtf does anyone seriously need bluetooth for, talking while driving ?
mats: this week, a guy broke his entire network stack by trying to install bluetooth drivers ☟︎
mats: i spend a non trivial amount of time debugging ubuntu desktops whenever people break it
pete_dushenski: i'm just trying to set up this edgerouter with freebsd. nothing else.
mats: basically, at work my team has a "you break it, we fix it" policy
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell decimation did you set up your edgerouter in osx ? if so, did you also have issues with minicom ?
Pierre_Rochard: mircea_popescu: install instructions relating to my accounting software, not pogo/bitcoin
pete_dushenski: or using serial comm software other than minicom ?? ☟︎
pete_dushenski: ^has anyone set one of these up with freebsd using instructions other than those found here ? http://rtfm.net/FreeBSD/ERL/ ☟︎
assbot: Why Nav Sarao Had To Be Destroyed: He Found A Way To Beat The HFTs At Their Own Game | Zero Hedge ... ( http://bit.ly/1IvCSAi )
pete_dushenski: sorta like that louis ck bit about young black comics just being way, way fucking cooler than he could ever be
pete_dushenski: despite the practical limitations, it's still cool to be ginormous.
assbot: Logged on 01-05-2015 00:53:04; mircea_popescu: that's why bigger penis is better rite ?
assbot: Logged on 01-05-2015 10:10:47; jurov: yes these are biggest problems phoudation has to fix first
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-05-2015#1117673 << it's funny tho, all the fraudulent pretense. "oh, a guy we never met is a founding director, because we wish to have the implication of legitimacy that would offer. next we make george washington founding director, and edit his wikipedia to say he founded the us and our turd" ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 01-05-2015 09:35:48; chetty: Its election season, must have vultures to blame
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-05-2015#1117664 << i'd love nothing more than to disrupt their economy to the point they're left begging on street corners. ☝︎
williamdunne: Before I think it was data allowance, price, location and if they allow tor or not
mircea_popescu: i was under the impression "vps hosting" is the new "unlimited shared hosting" thing of the 2000s.
mircea_popescu: a) they're all the same size and b) every tide washes more in.
williamdunne: Google a bunch of them, put their location and offerings on the list
mircea_popescu: williamdunne how the fuck are you going to make a neutral list of "vps hosters" anyway.
mircea_popescu: this world an' teh people in it...
davout: mircea_popescu: ty
williamdunne: RockHoster_: You'll be on the list, you get no "special" benefit. I can't be biased towards you I will be neutral