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ascii_field: but it really cooks, in terms of apparent performance on the runway
ascii_field: every time someone spews out a bastard, we end up snarfing preceding blocks
mircea_popescu: which is why the piece howls like so. "india should be concerned about how we pooped our pants"
mats: mircea_popescu: i agree. US strategists, on the other hand, should be concerned
ascii_field: a block gets fetched, here, potentially infinitely many times
mircea_popescu: anyway, i don't perceive what the great danger is here.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu is wondering about wasted bw (of which there is megatonnes) ?
ascii_field: if any part of the patch does not make immediate sense, ask now - i'm about to get into a wheeled coffin for a few hrs
mircea_popescu: myeah reading the patch now
ascii_field: that so far is the instrument
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i have a clock on the wall
mircea_popescu: ascii_field didja put instrumentation in place to measure speed or bw ?
mircea_popescu: mats meh, the entire china pakistan thing seems overstated.
assbot: Logged on 04-05-2015 16:45:26; funkenstein_: wow, that is not that long ago. crocodiles didn't change much over that time.
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-05-2015#1119553 <<< speaking of crocodiles, welcome to australia http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-04/crocodile-captured-in-daly-watersjpg/6443998 ☝︎
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: tried your rng yet ?
assbot: Logged on 04-05-2015 20:41:33; mats: vulns being released for Hospira equipment due to pending acquisition by Pfizer
mircea_popescu: because it was there.
ascii_field: (recall 'mule' debacle in emacs ? that almost killed it as a living project ?)
ascii_field: it is so that idiots can use 1,001 incompatible encodings for their hieroglyphs
mircea_popescu: computers are for humans not for whatever the fuck special needs monkeys use "diacritics"
mircea_popescu: fuck you, everyone. 27 letters or go back to your fucking yurt.
mircea_popescu: and all this so that idiots can use their idiot alphabets.
ascii_field knew that mircea_popescu's antennae would stand up from reading that thing
ascii_field: is the equation here.
ascii_field: 'we will slip the cock in with such grease that you will never notice'
mircea_popescu: and this is on www.gnu.org/
mircea_popescu: "The drawback of using loadable objects is not a problem in the GNU C Library, at least on ELF systems. Since the library is able to load shared objects even in statically linked binaries, static linking need not be forbidden in case one wants to use iconv."
mircea_popescu: maybe once we get 100k pounds a year to study our memories of collegiate dentistry.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: aha. the spittoon is brim-full and rancid
ascii_field: many interesting observations could be written re: the echonomy; taxonomy of chumps (free-range vs corralled, etc.) and the like
mircea_popescu: anyway, what would it be doing in bitcoin. waiting for when libnss is yanked out, to kick in.
mircea_popescu: "All the benefits of loadable modules are available in the GNU C Library implementation. This is especially appealing since the interface is well documented (see below), and it, therefore, is easy to write new conversion modules."
mircea_popescu: sort-of works on the infinite mirrors principle.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field it occurs to me that the word funkenstein_ was looking for, to describe the economy of chumps (whose coin is the bezzlar) would be... echonomy.
mircea_popescu: "they're invigorating, to the people who can walk ; selling alcohol helps the echonomy".
assbot: Logged on 04-05-2015 19:47:29; funkenstein_: How about educate the morons?
ascii_field: again, this is a very preliminary thing. i strongly encourage others to attempt replication.
mircea_popescu: As of April 30, 2015, the new price for .ws domains has been increased to
ascii_field: (why? exercise for the alert reader. if no one gets, i will explain at some point)
ascii_field: note that this one isn't a backport from anyone
ascii_field: if real hero - go straight to reading
ben_vulpes: pulling the pin under fire much less so
ben_vulpes: field-testing's the easy part (sort of)
ascii_field: which one of you folks will be the brave man, who tests this one.
ascii_field: 'To honour, while you strike him down, / The foe that comes with fearless eyes; / To count the life of battle good, / And dear the land that gave you birth, / And dearer yet the brotherhood / That binds the brave of all the earth.' (TM) (R)
ascii_field: also the thing syncs ludicrously quickly.
ascii_field: memory footprint climbs very, very slowly. as far as i can tell, thus far, this is 100% due to fragging
ascii_field: [BTC-dev] (EXPERIMENTAL) Full Orphanage Thermonuke.
lobbes: so far, it feels noticeably faster than the windows 8.1 that came with the machine (toy)
lobbes: I've much to learn
lobbes: which seems to make sense as against what makes linux strong
lobbes: and the whole 'roll up all the things into one thing'
lobbes: Now to change the init to something other than systemd (for reasons I don't fully grok yet, other than it is being pushed pretty aggressively, from what I gather)
lobbes got his new 'training laptop' installed with debian over the weekend.
ascii_field: but wtf is that thing even in there for.
ascii_field: mod6: now, as far as i can tell, it doesn't jam up the attempted static build
mod6: ok gotcha. thanks for the heads up.
mod6: <+ascii_field> http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/glibc-iconv-Implementation.html << wtf is this thing doing in bitcoind << is this another automagically linked in pos to glibc?
PFate: i just got booted from conneciton, not sure i have much to talk about ATM
jurov: PFate: this is just for 30mins, so speak up if you want
mats: vulns being released for Hospira equipment due to pending acquisition by Pfizer ☟︎
BingoBoingo: trinque: Putting aside the nonsensical "hospital" and "secure", home use of these things isn't uncommon
trinque: BingoBoingo: hospital networks are required by law to be secure; I don't see the problem with this
BingoBoingo: Fuck, telnet on an infusion pump???
ascii_field: http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/glibc-iconv-Implementation.html << wtf is this thing doing in bitcoind
pete_dushenski: "Canada's Bombardier Inc and Egypt's Orascom Construction and Arab Contractors will build a $1.5 billion monorail near Cairo, Egypt's housing minister said.The 52 kilometre (32 mile) project is set to be completed by mid-2018 with funding from a 14-year loan" << monorail, monorail, MONORAIL!
funkenstein_: Bad sense developed 1830s-50s, in part from influence of French socialist writings (especially Saint Simon), also perhaps influenced by use of the word in U.S. anti-slavery writing;
funkenstein_: hmm. . exploitation (n.) 1803, "productive working" of something, a positive word among those who used it first
trinque: the thing he works for is
trinque: cop isn't the exploiter in that scenario
funkenstein_: actually they will not let you wear a police uniform if you score too well on standardized tests
ascii_field: funkenstein_: who holds the rifle during deer season? man or deer? and why
trinque: you'd have to first have the power to compel the morons to learn
funkenstein_: Often the "exploiter" is just a moron that has been given a gun and a uniform.
funkenstein_: How about educate the morons? ☟︎
ascii_field: are precisely adopting one of those two options. (Social democracy is a little more advanced: Kill everything outside 2 sigma.)'
ascii_field: 'The problem is that "exploitation" happens only to people stupider (and consequently less informed) than the "exploiter". The root cause of this whole world problem is that some people are smarter than others. There are two basic solutions to this problem: Kill all the morons, or kill all the brains. If you look at how several political regimes have behaved throughout history, you might get the impression that they ☟︎
trinque: no one could possibly have been that far ahead of everyone else
ascii_field: i will add, for interested readers, that mccarthy's garbage collection (and other items) 'did not count' for the same precise reason why mpex 'does not count' to american muppets, and in general why the annoying kid who 'throws the curve' and sends entire classroom of imbeciles to the bottom of the sea, is decreed to 'not count.'
assbot: Monty Python - Theory on Brontosauruses by Anne Elk (Miss). - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JlNHDd )
ascii_field: 'radical nutrition: how to transform your life by not eating shit'
mircea_popescu: "a novel method to live. not previously described in art."
mircea_popescu: hopefully he has a patent for this
mircea_popescu: "Blanton, Brad 1996, Radical Honesty: How To Transform Your Life By Telling The Truth"
ascii_field: e.g., java folks 'discovered' garbage collection in mid 90s (after mccarthy invented it in 1960, but this 'does not count' because reasons.)
mircea_popescu: much more keenly aware of how retarded engineers are than the contrary.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: you'd be surprised at how often this kind of thing -actually- plays out in programmaretarddom
mircea_popescu: i mean think about it, dialectics was a novel device early 1900s, impressive and all.
ascii_field: emotional superstructures over events that had never happened. I saw, in fact, history being written not in terms of what happened but of what ought to have happened according to various ‘party lines’. ' (orwell, 'looking back on the spanish war')
ascii_field: the relationship which is implied in an ordinary lie. I saw great battles reported where there had been no fighting, and complete silence where hundreds of men had been killed. I saw troops who had fought bravely denounced as cowards and traitors, and others who had never seen a shot fired hailed as the heroes of imaginary victories; and I saw newspapers in London retailing these lies and eager intellectuals building
ascii_field: 'I remember saying once to Arthur Koestler, ‘History stopped in 1936’, at which he nodded in immediate understanding. We were both thinking of totalitarianism in general, but more particularly of the Spanish civil war. Early in life I have noticed that no event is ever correctly reported in a newspaper, but in Spain, for the first time, I saw newspaper reports which did not bear any relation to the facts, not even
mircea_popescu: to this day the principal value of latin america literature is its patent insanity in this sense.
mircea_popescu: new world did exactly the same thing, dressed its solipsism to look like euro truth. but it's still solipsism
mircea_popescu: judea bastardized it into some sort of idiotic mysticism, which is really just rehashing their pre-existing idiocies
mircea_popescu: ascii_field tbh, i suspect the euro notion of truth never really caught on, even in its own colonies.
mircea_popescu: contemporary records are just as unreliable, it's just that meanwhile our friends in the us inhabituated us with this barbarism
ascii_field: cn never really invented 'history' in the euro sense (of at least attempting de-mythologized recordkeeping)
ascii_field: even i knew this.
mats: this unreliability is magnified the further back you go