asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i unfortunately cannot comment on shitcoin-related uses

asciilifeform: ( or for that matter without subscription, anybody can get it from above link and make own to try with )

asciilifeform: we give it with subscription

asciilifeform: they dun need to magick the gentoo from 0 tho

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: for about 100bux you can try it yourself, using http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2295 and a home rockchip.

asciilifeform: usb3 is moar than adequate.

asciilifeform: nope.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the only thing preventing trb on the existing pilotplant rockchippen is the small disk.

asciilifeform: far better, for instance, than my node 'zoolag', specwise

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: RC will trbate, if you give it large disk

asciilifeform: also for compact n-port switches ( the popular ones, are stupidly large physically, and eat away precious space inside the enclosure )

asciilifeform: i'm also on the lookout for even smaller arm boards ( found 1 , but the specs do not stand up to bang-per-buck comparison with RC )

asciilifeform: 4 holes per RC.

asciilifeform: buncha drilling, really.

asciilifeform: shouldn't take 4evah to assemble tho. 1 weekend, i picture, per.

asciilifeform: forget time, i dun get paid for time.

asciilifeform: not exactly pocket change.

asciilifeform: in iron strictly. add to this, spare sticks.

asciilifeform: !Qcalc 2400 + 400 + 200 + 100 + 100

asciilifeform: gb switch for 24 arses -- 100.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i can give a floor. a rc is about 100bux, with the usbstick. chassis, let's say 400. beefy 5v ps : 200. cabling, negligible, but for pessimism say 100.

asciilifeform: nor is there even the slimmest chance of getting naked bag of naked rockchips in qty approaching 300, through customs. they have to move assembled into 1us.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: baggage holds 4u of machine; there is no practical way to get >24 units of rockchip into a 1u , per my reckoning

asciilifeform bbl,petting pet

asciilifeform: ( afaik their world begins and ends with shitazon/vpn/etc market )

asciilifeform: sadly the tulpapeople are ultra-costsensitive crowd..

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: >> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2295 <<

asciilifeform: they do !

asciilifeform: ( still the highest-margin product , if anybody can be persuaded to buy it..)

asciilifeform: aside from the shared hostings.

asciilifeform: did not expect it so quickly, but yes.

asciilifeform: rrright

asciilifeform: these things dun deliver themselves.

asciilifeform: right, incl delivery

asciilifeform: *sifting

asciilifeform: ( limited to catalogue shifting and paper design, no expenditure until board approves )

asciilifeform: meanwhile i will begin preparation for full scale rockchip plant.

asciilifeform: ditto danielpbarron or anybody else whose hands grow from correct organ and wants to step up to this mission

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6 : if lobbes is interested in selling on commission, i would like him to begin asap , with your approval

asciilifeform: it was most depressing exercise

asciilifeform: i spammed a buncha academitards, with the predictable silence as the output

asciilifeform: possibly

asciilifeform: so far nobody's managed to provoke any interest among heathens in fg, rented or bought or etc. , afaik

asciilifeform: right

asciilifeform: so 25 avail.

asciilifeform: answer seems to be 29 , of last (feb) count, but 4 now installed

asciilifeform: let's see ben_vulpes's tables:

asciilifeform: this will have to be fixed.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: trouble is that presently nobody seems to know anything about how to sell anything whatsoever to heathens.

asciilifeform: it quite easily could. esp. if i can get a hold of aluminum chassis.

asciilifeform: those -- look enuff like 'bag for sale to orcs in the sunday market' to trigger the light show.

asciilifeform: possibly this would extend to 2u or whatver else fits in case. the allergen is specifically 'pile of naked pcb'

asciilifeform: ( uy customs doesn't give half a shit re anyffing 1u-shaped, apparently , regardless of internals )

asciilifeform: i.e. same mass as s.mg server. but the mounts, power supplies, internal gb ethernet switches, would have to also come.

asciilifeform: !Qcalc 0.050 * 300

asciilifeform: ( i had to put on a quite vigorous juggling show just to get my 6 unmolested in )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they weigh 50 grams, but would absolutely have to be carried mounted inside their mount, or customs will behead

asciilifeform: current pilot are equipped with 128G flash drive ea.

asciilifeform: it takes usb3-anythings

asciilifeform: not inclusive of the power supply

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: with disk -- ~100

asciilifeform: selling to l1 was comparatively simple

asciilifeform: the heaviest question hanging so far , i think, is the heathen question

asciilifeform: i like mircea_popescu's optimism and good spirit

asciilifeform: and yes imho rockchip is 'ze fyootoor'(tm)

asciilifeform: gotta drum up demand..

asciilifeform: so far nobody even seems to want unit-6

asciilifeform: and ~quickly~. ( asciilifeform in fact drilled, tapped the holes, the night before flight , and assembled in hotel )

asciilifeform: pilot plant was built to answer the -- until then, entirely open -- q of whether anyone even wants any.

asciilifeform: (unbuilt !! yet) adult plant puts 24 in a 1u

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pilot plant is very undense, http://www.loper-os.org/pub/rockchip1.jpg , http://www.loper-os.org/pub/rockchip2.jpg

asciilifeform: i am looking for the exact cost

asciilifeform: which i drew as separate param

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is less, this includes 2 FG

asciilifeform: well sounds ok until realize that we gotta make a qualitative breakthrough somehow in heathendom; i suspect that l1 is tapped out

asciilifeform: still digging for the mo. cost of the s.mg unit

asciilifeform: approx

asciilifeform: i gotta fix this

asciilifeform: s.mg rents rather than owns box, and pays for this

asciilifeform: because i left out 1u rental fees

asciilifeform: i'm pretty sure my figure is slightly moar pessimistic than the reality

asciilifeform: again i will let ben_vulpes confirm the accuracy of my count.

asciilifeform: s.mg, s.nsa, mod6, trinque

asciilifeform: i mean, total # of colo subscribers existing presently

asciilifeform: i counted 4 colo people in ben_vulpes first table

asciilifeform: it is, under 4 colo + 4 FG

asciilifeform: ( if one sets middle col to all 0 )

asciilifeform: but it seems to match his outputs in the degenerate cases.

asciilifeform: prolly i made a numeric mistake somewhere, will let ben_vulpes confirm

asciilifeform: correct

asciilifeform: derived from ben_vulpes table

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: (144.444...)

asciilifeform: 144 is price in usd

asciilifeform: noooo

asciilifeform: it needs js wwwbrowser

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: feel free to copy this item onto piz www if you think it merits.

asciilifeform: the param 'target' and the params in leftmost and center columns, are editable, will trigger recalc of equation

asciilifeform: ( and yes i converted FG price to usd, to match the units of the other params )