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trinque: danielpbarron: heh!
that's a much better reason
danielpbarron: the project is pretty dumb and so are most of
the people involved in it
trinque: and of course,
the
thing will still be entirely within
the influence of
the federal govt still
trinque: danielpbarron: cool.
the free state project's somewhat interesting; I'm doubtful
though
that
the whole 20k will move when
that number's "reached"
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 18:58:41;
trinque: danielpbarron: are you in NH?
mircea_popescu: this shit costs 6 * 3161167 + 40 * 45110 + 45 * 1165 + 4 * 8824 + 1 * 8824 + 10 *1484 + 1 * 23877 = 20906664 satoshi
to build.
jurov: should i prod
the windows guy?
chetty: good idea, we have changed
the version so you will be needing a new cs
mircea_popescu: i need 1, it's in
the recipe for
the wooly mushroom mine.
mircea_popescu: and
there WILL be a juicy event
to reward
the patience and help people set up
themselves. so.
mircea_popescu: by now it's mostly "shit, another bug. no, wait a minute,
this is
the right
thing."
mircea_popescu: srsly ben, final
tests of finality, we're still finding some bugs but its pretty sparse.
trinque: I see no way
this permanent umbilical cord
to redmond could go wrong.
decimation: right,
the new model is 'pay us monthly fer yer warez'
chetty: <mircea_popescu>
this game i'm
the only one
that can play is FUCKING GREAT//meanie
jurov: "Moving
to a situation in which Windows is a constantly updated service will break out of
this cycle, and let Microsoft
tinker more with
the software
to
test new features and see how customers like
them"
mircea_popescu: this game i'm
the only one
that can play is FUCKING GREAT
mircea_popescu: needs like... 6 escherian
trestleworks among other
things
to build
the fucking mine.
decimation: jurov: yes,
that article is related. hopefully someone will figure out a model
jurov: if it was
that simple
decimation: does
this mean
that pure capitalism
tends
to fragile oligarchy while government direction of
the economy leads
to a greater diversity of economic practices?
jurov: by
the way, mircea_popescu: is BISP okay with
tor exit nodes?
decimation: yeah,
there is something
to
that. it does seem like pure market competition will lead
to monopoly, and it
takes a sovereign
to say 'do it
this way or hang'
jurov: i can see alf's point
that generally, such
things are done only as "bigger cock" exercise.
jurov: but debian/ubuntu/suse is supported in
the same way
decimation: my understanding is
that 'amazon linux' is basically rhel
decimation: jurov: do you run
the standard aws linux distro or do you have a fully custom image?
jurov: but
this installation and patching etc. is what is priceless
decimation: apparently
they are
too poor
to pay
that, and nobody else gave a fuck
decimation: yes,
there are
those who could re-create
the fab design
toolchain ascii mentioned, but I suppose it is
the case
that
they couldn't be bothered
decimation: admins still need money
to pay for bandwidth, servers
jurov: also,
there are people who know how
to put
together 500nm fab, just.. not interested
jurov: there are admins who know how
to do it. just.. not interested
decimation: in
the
tor cloud case, one cannot simply 'run an ec2 host' for nearly free like one can crib another's c code
decimation: it's difficult
to
think how about how
to escape
this even in principle
jurov: same
thing, basically
decimation: jurov: yes indeed. extremely low cost electronic copying has created
the
tryanny of 'unintentional monopoly', where
the first solution
that 'works' gets copied
to everyone and becomes
the defacto standard
jurov: but
that "anyone" does not see any advantage switching
their job for
this
decimation: jurov: but if it were 'anyone's
time'
than
the existing fabs would be kosher?
jurov: no i understood it generally as "anyone's
time"
decimation: so of course only your
time will advance
the mission
decimation: asciilifeform: perhaps part of your problem (re: make ur own fab) is
that you are attempting
to 'speak with a sword'
decimation: re: 'fits in head' < in other words
the 'mythical man month' more-or-less
gribble: cryptogoon was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 29 weeks, 0 days, 5 hours, 3 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <CryptoGoon>
thnx
mircea_popescu: the original unix " small program for small job" is exactly an attempt
to
turn
the foregoing into an engineering rule of
thumb
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not
that guaranteed. depends where and how
the addition happens.
mircea_popescu: trinque more like, because
the derps are by now persuaded
that
they do.
trinque: makes me wonder whether
the "climate change" meme exists because people wish humans had
that much control over
their destiny
trinque: climates change;
that's what
they do
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 18:54:17; mircea_popescu: even before-r
than
that, in
the 80s, all
the left had was "accuse
the other of bad
things loudly and repeatedly. just
that".
jurov: and in 2008 closed and moved
to
the US or wherever
jurov: got bought by motorola,
then "on semiconductor"
jurov: there was a fab "tesla piestany" in czechoslovakia able
to make 8080 or uart clones
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i
told you people have nfi how it works :D
mircea_popescu: which is unsurprising. for all
the dire straights ee, or law, or anything else finds itself in, management is
the worst.
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 17:29:30; asciilifeform: which is why i suspect we'll be crafting discrete logic cpu again before
this is all over.
mircea_popescu: it was misperceived by
their enemies as "actual", which is how
their
tactics worked.
mircea_popescu: understand :
the "physical concentration" of mongols was EXACTL:Y like what we do here.
mircea_popescu: nukes are, in
this discussion,
theatrical props. we need
them like i need a prince albert.
mircea_popescu: any merely functional live
thing will get its own food and shelter. it's
the basis of life.
mircea_popescu: the only
thing of any import in
there was
the cocaine.
mircea_popescu: that system works for derp force
the 4th. who is, in all
terms, worthless.