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ascii_field: very few folks have the good fortune of a proper apprenticeship
mircea_popescu: jurov your "older dudes" are simply idiots. what he meant was "people who know this"
trinque: this is not to say that college cannot provide the experience, but that the shitty one I was paid to attend did not
jurov: yes, the diffrence is my older dudes were asking me something they *did not* ever do themselves.
trinque: mircea_popescu: exactly right though; when college didn't provide that experience for me, I left it and went to work for the entrepreneurs I knew, learned there
mircea_popescu: jurov this does not seem what he said AT ALL.
jurov had to explain and provide sample that it's not really possible
jurov was asked to extract relevant code from libxpm so that they can have color icons without dynamically linking it
trinque: it didn't select the text that time, but plonked me on the paragraph
assbot: Patriarchy is a thing because nobody likes living in a world populated by little girls on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1ASqBPD )
mircea_popescu: trinque this is exactly it. to use my spiffy new js quote, http://trilema.com/2014/patriarchy-is-a-thing-because-nobody-likes-living-in-a-world-populated-by-little-girls/#selection-115.29-119.225
trinque: "my god... two lines.... crossed!"
jurov: lmao. it involved building the X, literally
trinque: just labor's too expensive
trinque: I tend to think there's a lot more learned helplessness out there than actual uselessness.
trinque: in the case where the older dude has made something of himself already, he knows tasks the novice won't ever think of doing himself, novice comes away having found out he can build an X
trinque: of course that matters
jurov: maybe it was not the right older dude
trinque: jurov: why's that?
jurov: worst times in mine
trinque: best times in my career have been when some older guy said "make X, and do it precisely this way"
mircea_popescu: "finding one's way" and whatnot. all the way through the 90s
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i'd say "wow, check out the weird divide between eastern europe and the us", but it's not it. tons upon tons of livresque reference to this exact thing, in english too.
trinque: sure, make candles of 'em; but if we're going into long-term biodiesel production human stock's not nearly the best choice
ascii_field: while the biodiesel still has arms and legs, it does not want to go to the reactor pot.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: but, to quote the standard ru prison tattoo, 'dum spiro spero'
trinque: on the one hand this is "what's to be done with all these walmart morons" and the other is "what's to be done with healthy humans"
mircea_popescu: what, you thought it wanted to be pots and pans ?
ascii_field: why the fuck are you telling yourself to do things you're clearly no good for ? << who wants to be biodiesel ? ☟︎
ascii_field: from student's point of view - to get himself credentialled/blessed for something closest to wtf he feels like doing
mircea_popescu: trinque well entirely different consideration, this. i was looking at it from the subjective perspective. nevermind what the world tells you to do. why the fuck are you telling yourself to do things you're clearly no good for ? it's as if at the orchestra auditions everyone wanted to play the instruments they sucked at.
trinque: mircea_popescu: point of my statement was that if the person's put to what they're actually best suited for, their opinion if it matters at all isn't worth hearing until they've felt what it's like
mircea_popescu: ascii_field for as long as i can remember, the entire point, of school, and of intellectual activity of young people, was to find wtf they're good for.
mircea_popescu: !up davec yo. about this jonas nick fellow ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the part about 'that was pretty much the only point of interest'
mircea_popescu: ascii_field which part ? trinque sure, yes. so then, depends who you ask ?
trinque: even if it's just some physical, menial task
mircea_popescu: contrary to what the guy claims, the bugs he found appear to be in the power rangers "consensus" library, not in conformals'.
trinque: anyone remotely useful tends to actually enjoy the structure of being given a worthwhile task
mircea_popescu: "TLDR I ran afl-fuzz against libbitcoinconsensus to discover interesting Bitcoin scripts and used them to search for Bitcoin reimplementations vulnerable to forking. This discovered two bugs in btcd by Conformal. See the bitcoinconsensus_testcases repository for the discovered Bitcoin scripts." ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ascii_field dude i must have missed some memos here. last i recall, that was pretty much the only point of interest. i blinked and now everyone seems to be running around trying to pretend like they can do things they most obviously can't.
trinque: ah I dunno, depends when you ask them
ascii_field: i can't imagine too many folks would be the least bit interested in discovering what they are 'best suited for'
mircea_popescu: "why do you think you're an olympic athlete ?" "~~~BECAUSE~~~ I'm a quadriplegic. If I weren't, I wouldn't give a shit about the olympics, like everyone else."
mircea_popescu: nobody goes "you know what ? maybe this shit's really supposed to be done by someone who, unlike me, is not actually an imbecile."
mircea_popescu: guy in the oval office'd be best suited to carry heavy loads. stuff like that.
mircea_popescu: just because some twerp is in the doctor's room at the hospital doth not mean he's a doctor.
mircea_popescu: it works like so : the things people do shed no light on the things people can do. not anymore, at any rate.
ascii_field: or so we are to suppose
mircea_popescu: you don't understand how the world works.
ascii_field: which is the one and only pill against.
ascii_field: http://www.principality-hutt-river.org/gov/PHR_Govt_Notice_of_False_Misleading_&_Fraudulent_Representation.htm << this kind of thing is a major problem for 'micronation' derps. but for some reason not one has, afaik, ever contemplated pgp.
mircea_popescu: WEBSITE: By the Principality For the Principality Website established under Royal Command by: Inspector General, FM. Lord Steven G. P. Baikie, Earl of Tankerness KGCRO., ADC., Dip.Eng. (Electronics)., DSF., RHRL. & The Hon. Sir Phillip G. Baikie KIOM. Maintained under Royal Command by: PHR I.T. Department
mircea_popescu: trinque i imagine ti must be useful when you're trying to exploit overflows.
trinque: no need for two, it's not as though it uses that distinction for any benefit
trinque: undefined in js means the property or varname hasn't been given a value, whereas null is a value meaning... no value
mircea_popescu: it's just elbrus for the rest of us.
ascii_field: js is one of the great crimes of the '90s 'digerati'
mircea_popescu: (obv null and undefined each get their own special equalities)
trinque: of course you've got null too
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, the dumbass page jumping when click behavuoyur has been fixed
trinque: unless newhash = undefined is meaningful to it
mircea_popescu: trinque well, took a while to figure out wtf actually needs testing in those two pages of blerg
trinque: mircea_popescu: you can just use shitty javascript truthiness for that
trinque: DA TOUCHSCREEN UBUNTU KOMRADE, PRIDE OF SOVIET UNION
ascii_field: poor schmucks are almost certainly running 'systemd' from the looks of that demo screen
ascii_field: ^ contains some tidbits not found elsewhere
ascii_field: jurov: as far as i can tell, not so much embargo as 'not enough to go around, so members-only'
jurov: sooo, russia and china put export embargo to their crown jewels.
mircea_popescu: dude this javascript thing...
ascii_field remembers the astonishing - even for that era - hype around 'transmeta'
jurov: "x86 sparc" ofc this was tried. cue "transmeta crusoe"
ascii_field: <mircea_popescu> bitcoin is the gold standard for everything else. that's actually what the word bitcoin means << then very clearly we don't have bitcoin yet
mircea_popescu: and not even a female child at that. katrina did way better than you.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field the only reason you're not walking through walls is also, that you're pushing with the strength of a child.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is the gold standard for everything else. that's actually what the word bitcoin means.
mircea_popescu: o, they be pushing.
mircea_popescu: you don't want the hard sort of thing you're thinking about. you just want an impredictable sort of tandem.
ascii_field: to take extant bitcoind as gold standard for anything whatsoever - is lunacy
mircea_popescu: ascii_field fuzzily, is the point.
mircea_popescu: clearly the largest use of tandem computing in the history of humanity, by any measure, by a very fat margin.
mircea_popescu: orly ? so how do the bitcoin nodes tandem ?
ascii_field: just the way it works.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: tandeming without a single point of failure - 'trusted' vote counter, etc. -- requires something like 'millionaire protocol' and purpose-designed iron.
mircea_popescu: intent being the general mark of impending failure.
thestringpuller: williamdunne: seems like d00d thinks GPG is a toy or marketing ploy.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> i don't get why they'd make a x86 sparc. << this is scary. i'd think you'd lose all ops/clock-cycle optimizations doing some translation between the two right?
ascii_field: machine that is -intended- for tandem operation in single yoke with identical units made by foreign skeptics operating from docs - must be purpose-designed.
mats: fun fact: SQLite compiles queries to a non-trivial VM https://www.sqlite.org/opcode.html
mircea_popescu: (this is not as lulzy as it sounds. there MUST be a fractal pattern somewhere that also makes a machine)
assbot: Logged on 11-05-2015 17:41:50; ascii_field: from standpoint of boobytraps, an example of 'worth writing home about' would be a machine 1) with pedantically open spec, to transistor level 2) with provisions for tandemming with implementations of same by other, foreign makers
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-05-2015#1128074 << transistor spec that fits in head, hopefully ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: that's why trade centers get fat.
mircea_popescu: independence is built EXACTLY out of having access to all the flavours of idiocy
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: see rest of thread
assbot: Logged on 11-05-2015 17:41:02; ascii_field: at any rate, the reason to hold off creaming your pants on this occasion, is that 1) it's yet another von neumann turd 2) enjoy trading usg boobytraps for ru variant
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-05-2015#1128070 << this is much more valuable than it looks. run them in tandem. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-05-2015#1128065 << then again that's how the russians sold cars, too. ☝︎
ascii_field: they did it for same reason dec included x86 translator with alpha
mircea_popescu: i don't get why they'd make a x86 sparc.