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mircea_popescu: well, if you manage
to survive emotionally, your stay in #b-a is bound
to be instructive.
mircea_popescu: there's no difference
there, just a meaningless distinction.
mircea_popescu: the system you discuss IS
the other system you discuss.
justJanne: It’s obviously more stable
than
the economical system plagued of bubble bursts
that is existing at Wall Street nowadays
justJanne: the consumer cooperatives operating non-profit chains of grocery stores have also existed since
the 1800s
mircea_popescu: ah,
that. again : let
those firemen do whatever
the fuck
they please and pay me.
justJanne: the volunteering fire brigade system has existed since
the 1400s
mircea_popescu: sure. won't last. by
the very nature of what unprotected sex is, it won't last.
mircea_popescu: just like - unprotected sex works fine "in
those places where syplhilis hasn't appeared yet".
mircea_popescu: just, some people are momentarily insulated from
the effects of
their stupidity.
justJanne: obviously it works well in
the countries with
the highest standard of living –
justJanne: just
to provide a benefit for everyone
mircea_popescu: let
those firemen do whatever
the fuck
they please and pay me.
trinque: why should
they not be paid for dangerous work?
justJanne: like 90% of all firemen here, for example, work for free. volunteers. No pay, nothing.
They risk
their lives for nothing, while still having a normal job at
the same
time.
mircea_popescu: no, it doesn't.
that's
the fallacy of "we can't compare
to any alternatives, as
thery don't exist - so it works fine!!1"
mircea_popescu: to me,
the difference between soviets and nazis is nil : both were socialists.
justJanne: let’s say it like
this, not even
the literal nazis had such a right-wing idea about society. And
they are nazis.
☟︎ justJanne: then you might want
to rethink your life.
mircea_popescu: i punish people for what
they are rather
than what
they want
to be all
the
time.
mircea_popescu: you don't expect every kids have equal chances, because
that removes any incentive for you
to do anything.
justJanne: do you want
to punish people for stuff
they didn’t do, choices
they didn’t make?
mircea_popescu: of course you are. you work hard and save
to give your kids a better chance.
justJanne: because no one should have a disadvantage from choices
they didn’t make.
justJanne: this guy betrayed everyone who voted for
thim, and
the rest of Germany,
too
justJanne: the day after his
time as chancellor ended, he got a job at Gazprom
justJanne: He was a German chancellor in
the social democrats party who reduced welfare spending, removed any kind of minimum wage ideas, added laws for some businesses, and changed several laws so
that Gazprom could build a pipeline.
justJanne: not
that Germany would be better, with people like Gerhard Schröder >_>
justJanne: yeah, it’s not something
the population can do anything against. it’s just inevitable with 2 parties
that are both quite corrupt
trinque: there's not one coherent "they"
to consider in regards
to
the country
trinque: probably some faction of bastards in
the US is actually aware of
this, and others are not
justJanne: and
the US is also selling weapons
to
the saudis directly, which
they sold directly
to ISIS
justJanne: if
the dad still gives you clothes, even
though he knows what you’re doing...
mircea_popescu: "your dad brought you clothes, which you
traded for drugs, so
technically your dad bought you drugs"
trinque: I
think
the Saudi's deserve some credit for
the swindle
there
justJanne: the US is financing
the saudi’s, who sell ISIS weapons, so
technically
the US is financing ISIS anyway
trinque: sounds like
they're going
to put
the fork in
the dollar
mircea_popescu: to streamline administration ~~~and deregulate power
to lower levels~~~
trinque: oh
the irony
that would be if someday
the middle east is united in its hatred for
the united states
trinque: does seem like if anything coherent is intended at all, it's
to provoke a larger regional war
mircea_popescu: fully investigate
the keys in question, cornerstone of which is, get d.
ben_vulpes: <justJanne> your phone will burn
through your clothes. And
then ignite everything around it, before becoming a blob of molten lava << israelis came up with
this one iirc
assbot: Logged on 18-05-2015 18:57:06; Apocalyptic: (the full factoring is interesting because it's
the only way
to compute
the private exponent d)
justJanne: microwave from 1980 still works,
TV from '96 as well, PC from '98 is still in use.
justJanne: in
the past years,
technology got worse
trinque: justJanne:
the problem
there is economic; why give a shit what happens next year? we'll all be dead
mircea_popescu: just, correct from a game
theoretic perspective of genetics, not of individual humans.
mircea_popescu: fwiw, i happen
to believe it is actually
the correct strategy,
justJanne: trinque: it makes me especially angry when
this is combined with programmers who call
themselves "engineers", but whose products stop working after just a decade
trinque: best stated by mircea_popescu re: reproduce until
there isn't anything extra,
then divide it all until dead
trinque: justJanne: it's
the whole socialist world's strategy
mircea_popescu: trinque:--std=c99 kicks on __STRICT_ANSI__ which affects whether __USE_MISC is defined in features.h << such a great explanation of wtf is wrong with all
this shit.
jurov: btcg sry it was
to ben
trinque: fuck it all; everyone has
to bolt a dick massager
to everything
mats: mircea_popescu: i'm inclined
to believe egypt will follow syria
justJanne: trinque:
that is very much
true @
the apple-strategy argument
ben_vulpes: also i read ELSEWHERE on
the gentoo wiki
that PORTDIR_OVERLAY is deprecated
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 23:16:02; mircea_popescu:
toaster is kinda dumb, but ceramic
tiles for warm floor is worth doing.
btcg: i usually just read it at leisure decided
to jump in here
ben_vulpes: <jurov> ben_vulpes: but yes, hacking on
the source is best in your homedir. only after it compiles
there, feed
to portage <<
this first
btcg: ahh, i'll read it
thanks
ben_vulpes: jurov: more or less getting `emerge`
to work with my sources. but...
trinque: re-feeds on itself for a few cycles and
there's nothing left
trinque: mircea_popescu: seems like what happens
to
the imitators when
there's nothing good
to imitate
btcg: i was hoping a water heater
that pays for itself, by using miner heat, but embeddable chip, if
their centralized servers have issue, eeek
trinque: mircea_popescu:
there's an (american?) phenomenon
there where innovating means crapping
together however many
things
that already existed, and calling it something new
jurov: ben_vulpes: but yes, hacking on
the source is best in your homedir. only after it compiles
there, feed
to portage
mircea_popescu: even admitting you could make
this, who in his right mind wants
to fuck
the food storebox.
trinque: there are a few magical files
that need
to be inside /usr/local/portage or wherever
the overlay may be
trinque: making an ebuild is more along
the lines of packaging up your
thing and shipping it
mircea_popescu: mats curious if egypt actually goes
the way of
turkey or mopre like syria
trinque: ben_vulpes: if you want
to hack best just stick
the source in your home directory
danielpbarron: btcg, chip doesn't need full node
to mine; all chips probably phone home
to central node for
the next header
to work on
ben_vulpes: jurov: i don't
think i actually understand how
they're supposed
to work.
btcg: i wonder how
they'll run a full node, i guess
there's
the ~1.2 gig pruned node
btcg: random question: what do you folks
think of
the proposed embedded mining from 21?
jurov: ben_vulpes: what was
the problem with
the overlay?
justJanne: mircea_popescu:
they aren’t for sale yet, but if you want
to get a
taste, you can buy an AMD GPU