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justJanne: I mean, a startup in my city sells FPGA clusters
that can be used for
that (or for crypto mining), and
the NSA bought 256 clusters, each should be enough
to break AES256 in 2 weeks.
williamdunne: I've been
trying
to break
that habit,
think I'm about
there
justJanne: I wonder how much calculation power it would
take
to break 4096-bit RSA.
williamdunne: From
the frequency of messages don't
think she even read
the GPG contracts etc, let alone historical logs
mircea_popescu: clever chick with a head fulla stupid meets #b-a. anyone care
to bet on
the linecount
total ?
☟︎☟︎ trinque: how about less
this bullshit and more on
the definition of centralized vs decentralized
justJanne: Is because
they store
the money as a cryptographically signed
transaction history on
the card.
justJanne: The
thing is,
the reason why German debit cards don't work in any other place,
williamdunne: Which all settlement systems are built on
top of
williamdunne: I know in
the UK it works with central bank reserve/payment accounts
williamdunne: justJanne: How is current issuance handled
then? Banks
trusted
to issue
their authorised balance?
mircea_popescu: i don't
think you understand what centralized-decentralized mean.
trinque: not how many buildings
they have
justJanne: I can send money
to another merchant without it ever
touching a bank
trinque: the point is
the fucking records
justJanne: Denmark has no digital central bank —
the money flows from node
to node.
BingoBoingo: It prolly won't bee
too long before
they bring back 100,000 bills with
the Woodrow Wilson and everything
mircea_popescu: the idea
that i'd allow a
third party
to look into my accounts... what
the fuck is
this,
the future ?
williamdunne: But it shouldn't be compared
to centralized systems
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> which iirc don't even exist in
the us. << 100's still exist here
justJanne: mircea_popescu: in Denmark, almost all
transfers are digital anyway. As
the official system is cheaper, faster, and easier
than bitcoin even.
williamdunne: Sorta like
the £1,000,000 note in
the UK I guess
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough,
they pay like 10% less for 20 dollar bills. only want 100s.
justJanne: davout: discussion about RSA,
tbh.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Wondered, can you not get a lot more for your money if you pay with USD? Or would
that get you shot?
mircea_popescu: funny
to do here,
too, a brick is worth like 800 bucks or so.
williamdunne: Ah, well I prefer
the former in
this case
then
mircea_popescu: the latter recognises
the sovereignty of
the entity it secedes from.
the former does not.
trinque: where's danielpbarron, it's
the mark of
the beast
justJanne: From 2017 on, Denmark plans
to do everything via digital money
transfers.
mircea_popescu: williamdunne quick : what's
the difference between "Declaration of sovereignty" and "Declaration of independence" ?
mircea_popescu: if
there isn't, a well. you're lucky enough
to have come in early.
mircea_popescu: if
there's still a germany in 30 years, it may see how itshould behave and copy us, yes.
justJanne: If you want, you can
try it as a state.
justJanne: There are holes, but
the result still works better
than any alternative.
mircea_popescu: justJanne
the reason it is hard
to argue is because
the list of places where your ideas fail is about eighteen entries long by now, and you're not directly interested in examining
the holes and fixing your head, but instead would prefer us
to somehow accept
the nonsense.
williamdunne: davout: she's burning mana for
the energy regen spell
justJanne: It's hard
to argue with you when you ask
the same questions over and over again, and just goalpost all he
time
mircea_popescu: might as well have
the same argument about believing in christ and move
to 1555
to be a nun.
mircea_popescu: "ima call anyone
that doesn't promote socialism a dictator and
then say
that not being socialist makes dictators"
justJanne: Guys, please
take some college courses in economy, politics, and philosophy.
mircea_popescu: what are you, going
through
the non sequitur book in order ?
justJanne: All politicians who said
the opposite ended up as dictators.
mircea_popescu: the only realistic
thing is
to eat raw meat and dress in dead children.
justJanne: According
to every not-retarded politician, ever?
williamdunne: Apparently moving IRC servers and
tos are equivalent
to
the violent rule of gov
justJanne: You want governments
to sign contracts with all citizen, what's more realistic?
mircea_popescu: the fact
that someone did something stupid does not make
the stupid
thing right.
williamdunne: I have
to convince people
to make some clicks, not hard if freenode implements a
tax
justJanne: You have
to convince all your peers
to move,
too
justJanne: Same with countries. If
the deal changes, you can move.
williamdunne: Comparing freenode
to government is a little ridiculous, don't you
think?
mircea_popescu: they don't want
the cock,
they shouldn't have clicked
the short skirt
tos.
mircea_popescu: justJanne listen, you agree women
that dress sluttily should be fucked byu whoever feels like ?
justJanne: And still you are subject
to
them.
justJanne: Did you click "I agree
to Freenode"'s
ToS, ever?
williamdunne: I don't click "I agree
to give up 40% of my income"
williamdunne: justJanne: Right,
this is
the point. We didn't choose for Gov
to build roads and would pay
tolls if owned by private companies
mircea_popescu: listen, is merkel paying you for using
the public space ?
justJanne: A danish private company just builds a
tunnel
to Germany right now.
mircea_popescu: the notion
that some govt owns
the roads, seriously...
williamdunne: Ok, well state enforced monopoly doesn't justify
theft, no more
than my ejaculate justifies rape
williamdunne: If private companies can't build roads,
they shouldn't exist
justJanne: But
the roads in
the country you live in are for you
to use, in return you pay
taxes.
mircea_popescu: but you were extolling
the virtues of not paying for
their work a moment ago.