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mircea_popescu: the difference being that this isn't what you think,
justJanne: I think places with low median aren't worth living in.
mircea_popescu: of course it is, that's why i say it.
mircea_popescu: the entire point of life is diferentiation from the median.
justJanne: That's what you think.
justJanne: Median is the middle person.
mircea_popescu: which is EXACTLY what the problem is.
mircea_popescu: she has a point. it does lower the average but increase the median
justJanne: Average is the sum divided by the amount.
mircea_popescu: and because the government can alter the deal, here, it's a new law now.
justJanne: It lowers the average, but increases the median
mircea_popescu: in any case the poor girls without the bits can't grow them back up, so in order for everyone to have equal chances at an orgasm, off with your clit!
williamdunne: Socialism to me does seem a lot like the "no kid left behind" school bullshit that appeals to the lowest common denominator and lowers the median
mircea_popescu: maybe you should try the mutilation thing.
mircea_popescu: how are these migrants any worse than you ?
davout: well, adoption is on the rise, so what can i say
davout: the logs are soon going to be harder to catch up on than the very fucking blockchain
justJanne: So no, it's not a German issue. We still try to do our best to fix the mistakes someone else did.
justJanne: People, immigrants, from African countries, who got mutilated and then moved here
justJanne: But I know this because your quote and your article say it.
mircea_popescu: and you know this the same way it was 0, right ?
justJanne: But again, those are immigrants — they moved here decades after they were mutilated.
mircea_popescu: i thought all people should have equal chances.
mircea_popescu: chetty imagine, that's like a quarter ton of bits ?
mircea_popescu: williamdunne shut up they're fixing it.
mircea_popescu: damn i like the nordic model more and more
justJanne: And we pay them free healthcare to fix it.
justJanne: So, 24 thousand immigrants are mutilated.
justJanne: The largest wave of immigration was in the 70s and 80s
justJanne: Almost no immigration since then.
mircea_popescu: Germany is home to at least 24,000 women from African countries who've undergone female circumcision (as reported by DW in 2004)
justJanne: You don't get it without a degree and a guarantee for a job, and the circumcised people rarely have the qualifications anyway
mircea_popescu: how's the female circumcision factor ?
justJanne: 19% of the population are foreigners and migrants
mircea_popescu: or to a point where the muslims can just come in and rape you stupid lot into shape.,
williamdunne: Yes, plenty of children to pay for their communist parents
justJanne: Automatically shrinking the population to a point where it is sustainable.
mircea_popescu: clearly the system works and is sustainable.
justJanne: All the Nordics have 1.4, too
justJanne: So far below the replacement rate of 2.25
justJanne: (Yes, the laws in Germany apply to all "people", not just citizens)
trinque: portland would be too capitalist for her
justJanne: Nah thanks, don't wanna go into a country where anyone can be declared terrorist and stripped of their rights
mircea_popescu: i don't imagine she takes up much space.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes trinque hey lot, if i buy her plane tickets do you show her portland ? a week or so ? ☟︎
justJanne: This summer? I'll work on several open source projects, like the IRC client I use right now.
justJanne: (And no, without free college I couldn't go to university.)
mircea_popescu: what are you doing this summer ?
mircea_popescu: aha. well the thing is, the books you read are kinda deliberately written so as to make you think you're in the best possible place.
justJanne: I haven't travelled outside EU yet. Never had the money to do so.
mircea_popescu: justJanne how much have you travelled ? outside of the eu i mean
justJanne: mircea_popescu: the Nordics still pay about the same taxes as the US, but you get free healthcare, free college, welfare, and an almost unregulated market.
trinque: man... justJanne you have recalibrated me for tolerating canadians
mircea_popescu: anyway, denmark is probably the best example of usistan. "The worlds largest public sector (30% of the entire workforce on a full-time basis) is financed by the world's highest taxes."
justJanne: that's an old article then.
mircea_popescu: punkman because this can be done now.
punkman: " Funds cannot move freely within the system. They can move from a bank account (or cash) to a Geldkarte. From there, they can only be moved to a merchant's card and from the merchant's card, they can only go to the merchant's bank account."
williamdunne: Can you use this card for luxury purchases?
williamdunne: Nevermind, I'll ignore the paper that is derpy
mircea_popescu: it will never work. the only reason its not being raped wide open is because atm nobody gives a shit about swine country.
justJanne: It existed 10 years before bitcoin, though.
mircea_popescu: the other fails, the bank gets alerted that this was copied and the police shows up
punkman: GeldKarte > "This system is protected against double-spending by not allowing the user to read the keys from their smart card."
williamdunne: justJanne: Do you have a paper or something for this?
mircea_popescu: i'll tell you what now : whoever gets first online spends it.
justJanne: Then the last person receiving it won't be able to use it.
punkman: justJanne: I mean, a startup in my city sells FPGA clusters that can be used for that (or for crypto mining), and the NSA bought 256 clusters, each should be enough to break AES256 in 2 weeks. << lolwut
mircea_popescu: then necessarily i can send to both. so i do. what now.
mircea_popescu: if i can send money to either a or b
justJanne: Copying is prevented through unique salts for each transaction.
mircea_popescu: justJanne yes. so i copy that list and send money to 500 people
justJanne: Your card stores a list of cryptographically signed money from the sender.
mircea_popescu: show, don't tell.
justJanne: You have at the beginning 0 money.
justJanne: They can't spend anything, as the last two statements are invalid.
mircea_popescu: b has no money. a gives him 100 moneys. b sends 100 money to C and 100 money to D.
justJanne: You can transfer money offline, and it is valid.
mircea_popescu: what happens in the following scenario :
justJanne: Person C now goes online and can spend the money.
mircea_popescu: which is offline throughout.
justJanne: (All through GeldKarte)
justJanne: All this while they are completely offline.
trinque: the banks are totally decentralized because they've got various sub-departments of some huge central authority
mircea_popescu: you don't know but it's the same ?
trinque: the whole EU sounds like what they do in portland tech companies
justJanne: There is a difference between the printed money and and the way digital money works.
justJanne: I'm currently talking about northern Germany, as I don't know the internals of Denmark, it's the same, though.
mircea_popescu: so what is "Danmarks Nationalbank" then ?
justJanne: It's the same as minimum and smallest, two completely different definitions.
trinque: the fuck is this where they're both or neither
justJanne: The banks aren't either fully centralized, nor fully decentralized. Anyone can just open a bank, the question is if other banks will accept money from your customers as payment, as they don't know if they can trust your cryptographic signature.
trinque: what's the command structure of the society within which your decentralized banks operate?
mircea_popescu: do you understand what "the map is not the territory" means ?
mircea_popescu: no, it's not. because the map is not the territory.
mircea_popescu: but in graph theory, decentralized is a term of art.
mircea_popescu: that's true for graphs.
mircea_popescu: what do you take yourself for, some sort of equal or something ?
williamdunne: Are all nodes in bitcoin equal? News to me
justJanne: It's as easy as that.
williamdunne: Too much effort for her to google