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asciilifeform: the way, is said, people go in the desert
asciilifeform: imho mircea_popescu was right about this, gotta write it or otherwise will go in circles 4evah
asciilifeform: mod6: a++ . chronicle errything you can, incl. (especially!) dead ends
asciilifeform: ( in re urls tho -- if we had a reliable sync, would be quite painless to have each logger re-point log links to self )
asciilifeform: ok makes sense.
asciilifeform: right.
asciilifeform: cuz diff db user.
asciilifeform: ooh hm i think i get it
asciilifeform: hm so for which was it ? why did the dump need to be sed'd ?
asciilifeform: hm i was thinking diana_coman actually ran 'sed' on the db dump
asciilifeform: diana_coman if you want snsabot url's to point to your www, imho the correct method, is this, rather than to actually alter db
asciilifeform: currently era 1 has not been eaten, it is pending a pill for the clock diff grrr
asciilifeform: is why i divided time into 'era'
asciilifeform: 'era 1' , when finally eaten, will be 'dekakoized' via phf's algo, i.e. <a href="...foo...">bar</a> only 'foo' will be transfomed, when foo corresponds to a kakotron url
asciilifeform fwiw has not yet manually fiddled the db in any way -- i.e. phf's imports are as they were found. the 1 'hand' fix was when dropped the botched eat of #e and reran w/ lobbes's corrected eater.py . but all url's are as-they-were atm.
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: a!
asciilifeform: what was the issue there ?
asciilifeform: ( done anyway )
asciilifeform: aite
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma manually set off my dump, if this helps ( can grab it in 10s or so)
asciilifeform: diana_coman: mine displays correctly
asciilifeform: grr
asciilifeform: seems like this happened from the colouration fix : http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-01#1932965
asciilifeform: err, diana_coman ^
asciilifeform: ossabot: check your nick = .... in the conf
asciilifeform: ( e.g. http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-08-26#1931351 seen via www reader )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: take a look in your config... suddenly your box shows as 'sossabot' ??
asciilifeform: ( physically -- they're about half the volume of box of cigar. )
asciilifeform: imho that thing oughta be standard item in pc. gives clean, stable fundamental freq from which can run pll, incl. the 1 for cpu clock, in principle.
asciilifeform: ( the lamp is apparently good for 10-20 yrs, in these )
asciilifeform: re that thrd, asciilifeform prolly will succumb to temptation to buy rubidium clock ( they're apparently laffably cheap, 100-200 bux or so, massive pile of surplus from gsm towers ) but this aint a solution as such, i aint about to ask ~erryone~ to buy one and build the 10mhz-to-pc-clock box for same. asciilifeform is simply tired of his own clocks drifting all over.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: mircea_popescu said 'go think', so i went, to think. still haven't a pill tho.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: thread re the latter
asciilifeform: not to mention the horror with the dates ( it is not difficult to find lines that e.g. snsabot will quote correctly, but ossabot not, and in reverse, on acct of clock diff )
asciilifeform: ( for that matter, asciilifeform still not attempted to correct divergence vs. phf's bot, which came from the uniturds crapola 3w ago )
asciilifeform: we're gonna need a pill .
asciilifeform: ( not to mention, impedes an imho important function of having multiple bots, i.e. where can substitute links if 1 fails )
asciilifeform: the divergence thing is gonna back backlinkage implementation very painful
asciilifeform: ty diana_coman
asciilifeform: ( it would have been 'nsabot', too, but someone apparently is squatting that nick )
asciilifeform: i suspected this
asciilifeform: nao if could think of how to cleanly fix these... to make the bot echoes actually interchangeable, as they oughta be
asciilifeform: np
asciilifeform manually walked the log-raw/ dumps, found
asciilifeform: divergence happened at birth of ossabot , the 1st time it was asked to speak
asciilifeform: recall that bots are 'deaf' to own output, so there is no, afaik, pill against this
asciilifeform: this accts for the extra lines.
asciilifeform: diana_coman yours logged when wasn't voiced
asciilifeform: ok found
asciilifeform: this also
asciilifeform: gotta find where, and why.
asciilifeform: diana_coman i suspect you missed 1 line when was manually syncing .
asciilifeform: ^ still delta of 1 .
asciilifeform: let's 1 moar : http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-01#1932845 << >> http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-01#1932845
asciilifeform: or nm, that wouldn't explain ( thought, at first 'it sees own output, naturally, 1st' but that wouldn't explain wai above diverges )
asciilifeform: grr, i see why.
asciilifeform: seems like ossabot lost a line at some point ?
asciilifeform: why not aligned ?
asciilifeform: hey diana_coman , odd
asciilifeform: let's see : http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-01#1932938 < > http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-01#1932938
asciilifeform: neato.
asciilifeform: !o uptime
asciilifeform: afaik this is actually 1st time that we have 100% interchangeable-part bots .
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: !q uptime
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it dun affect the logger bot.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: plox to add 'snsabot' to yours, for similar .
asciilifeform done.
asciilifeform about to restart reader.py , adding ossabot to 'bots' for proper colouration. expect ~5sec of dead time.
asciilifeform: lobbes: why not. just dun get close enuff where she can re-inject the toxoplasma and make you into zombie..
asciilifeform: lobbes: the ejected girly , that is ?
asciilifeform: ( imho as far as these go, not even unfounded, a. crowned, after all, gorby )
asciilifeform: there's an entire school of crackpottery that andropov was 'manchurian candidate', grown by finn 'machiavelli' otto kuusinen .
asciilifeform: re czechs-in-'68 lulz -- apparently gnarly subj, with archaeologists still wanking. (supposedly -- ck was evenly split, and andropov's vote broke tie)
asciilifeform: food as in, what tourists throw from autos ?
asciilifeform: seems like bear's country, eh. ( is there even anyffin man-made in those parts , other than that autobahn ? )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a++ bear btw. ( supposedly there is a bear in east usa, but i've never seen. even the 1 in the zoo, seems to have died 20y ago )
asciilifeform still has a chinese, circa '70 or so, towel, hanging, bought by ancestors in trip to ro. they're ~eternal.
asciilifeform: iirc was connected w/ ro cp aligning w/ chinese line ( 'hrusch's speech at 20th party congress - betrayal of ideals!11' etc )
asciilifeform: nao, ~why~ shoemaker expected war w/ sovok, i do not know
asciilifeform: iirc that serpentine was built as part of 'what if war with sovok!' episode
asciilifeform: evidently ! nao answered.
asciilifeform: also wondered, who and why drives there, when europistan has proper trains, cheap planes
asciilifeform oddly enuff has seen 'transfagarasan' once. it was distinctly visible from plane.
asciilifeform: lol i was half-expecting to see ventilation shaft of fuhrerbunker somewhere in them cobblestones.
asciilifeform: (i.e. it is in fact possible to fleanode with hands! via telnet)
asciilifeform: when i was experimenting, found that you can get away with 20-30s delay b/w 'ping' and 'pong' and not get thrown
asciilifeform: !q uptime
asciilifeform: trinque: i doubt this is the cause, mine lives on a box w/ quite heavy load, and so far 0 disconnects to date (aside from coupla hand restarts)
asciilifeform genuinely bbl
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: afaik it can, but needs coaxing to set the baud.
asciilifeform bbl,moar meat
asciilifeform: trinque if you encounter any grrr re rk, put in the log, i'ma answer asap.
asciilifeform: ( even 'emerge' will actually work, so long as you remember not to --sync )
asciilifeform: trinque: the linked recipe gives you the closest thing there was to a working gentoo circa '18 .
asciilifeform: so can set to work even if no network etc
asciilifeform: pre-configged btw to shit tty0 to that uart.
asciilifeform: ^ and has gcc etc. so can work.
asciilifeform: trinque: quickest way to 'gimme sumthing that boots' is prolly mine .