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trinque: I've had deals
that
took
two years
to close
trinque: and
try
to land
the client first, don't just assume it'll happen when you're ready
trinque: what I'd do is
try
to land a client
that gives no shits about masamune, but needs something it can do
trinque: "yeah I could see people buying
this" is not a sales strategy
trinque: gabriel_laddel |
trinque: guy's never sold a
thing in his life << lol << ftr
this is exactly why I said
this
trinque: ;;later
tell gabriel_laddel "I see no reason I can't sell computers pre-loaded with Masamune." be careful, you're underestimating
the colossal difficulty of
this and
there are old skeletons on old battlefields
that
thought
the same. *do you have
the connections
to make
these sales
to big businesses, militaries, private schools, and so on?*
☟︎ ascii_modem: vsh << good but we want it in
tandem with, e.g., whirlpool
cazalla: mircea_popescu, jurov's wine is safe, i prefer a half dozen cup of
teas in
the morning, not wine
Adlai: (... but
this requires customized JSON parser at
the receiving side,
that isn't always practical.) << pffffff (setf json:*real-handler* (lambda (string) (parse-float string :type 'rational)))
mircea_popescu: incidentally, asciilifeform & all : is b-a pgp going
to use vsh for hashing ?
assbot: Logged on 22-05-2015 18:19:06; jurov: quite an arrangement,
this
jurov: so ben_vulpes will
then use camera
to get
the random bits off osciloscope?
assbot: Logged on 22-05-2015 17:49:51; jurov: yes i'm curious what will be
the best sampling method..
timing
the pulses with some fast counter?
mircea_popescu: who
the fuck knows what exactly multiplying
the exponent by a factor in
the key does.
assbot: Logged on 22-05-2015 15:23:45; Apocalyptic: quite amusing
that 281479271743489 has 65537 as one of its 3 prime factors,
those cosmic rays have a sense of humour
jurov: i can give you access
to mpexagent
Adlai: it's not necessary, but
the alternative is
to not simulate, which requires an account
jurov: ohno...
this mpex simulator stuff again
mircea_popescu: tandem arrangements can
to some degree help, but it gets rapidly iffy (tandem arrangements of radiation detectors are fundamentally looking at
the same event, at least some of
the
time - not so with electronic noise like cardano measures, where
tandem detectors are actually looking at distinct events)
Adlai wanted
to build a simulator
to check feasibility
Adlai: jurov:
there's lots of data, but motivation
to do anything scalpl-related is currently at all-time lows
mircea_popescu: it's not only
that it wears off quickly, it wears off as a function of... HOW MUCH IT DETECTED
assbot: Logged on 22-05-2015 15:03:03; asciilifeform:
tube also wears out very quickly
assbot: Logged on 22-05-2015 14:29:20; asciilifeform: incidentally, now more
than ever is
the
time
to set up an sks server under our control. because sks is our ultimate 'backup'
Adlai has brought scalpl for some drydock, next voyage planned for
the cross-chain seas
mircea_popescu has been skipping
the web exchanges header for... months, now.
mircea_popescu: Adlai it's actually in my reports,
too.
the part i hadn't read
thereof.
assbot: Logged on 22-05-2015 14:24:52; mod6: heheh, redirect works fine with lynx, seems
to not work well with FF.
Adlai: screenshots all over
the reddits, for
the curious
Adlai: either way,
their order book has been crossing at an increasingly frequent rate
Adlai: they at least charge
their customers for helping
them boost
that number
mircea_popescu: Adlai isn't buttfinex
the one of
the web exchanges with
the largest random number published under "volume" ?
mircea_popescu: this is like "decentralization doesn't work becasue we all used
the same copy of decentralized software and got ownered"
mircea_popescu: then "everyone" (of
the idiots) is simply copying
their "price" and
then
the world derps abouit how "capitalism creates economic cycles"
assbot: Logged on 22-05-2015 13:42:24; Adlai:
twas sometime between
the seventh and eleventh book crossing
that we screamed fuckit and drained
the account
assbot: Logged on 22-05-2015 13:41:19; Naphex: Adlai:
that'd be probably more dumb :P
trinque: just gimme drawing in a rectangle, and let people write higher level widgetry
things atop
that
trinque: but forget
the whole dom braindamage;
that probably would've remained if he had
trinque: but come on, gimme a sandboxed lisp-ish
thing, let it grab
text over sockets, draw pretty pictures on a rectangle, done
trinque: this browser
thing needs a look someday, has
to go
mircea_popescu: b-a is
trying
to keep one guy drunk at all
times, a sort of olympic... flame.
mircea_popescu: jurov better hurry up with
that wine, bingo's asleep and cazalla not up yet.
trinque: yup, I
thought at first it was "long page", but newp, works fine on long pages long as
there aren't comments
trinque: yeah, looks
to be "page with comments == borken"
jurov: yeah
that's sooo derpy
mircea_popescu: so what, doesn't make dom available until
the missing linked images
timeout ?
jurov: if it won't work
till all avatars load,
that would explain why it works on some pages
trinque: mircea_popescu: no, does not work on
the original page in question
trinque: mircea_popescu: jquery literally spin-checks
to work around
this
trinque: he's saying run it at whatever
the browser
thinks load is, and also 500ms later because reasons
trinque: ^ looks like hax
trying
to deal with it
mircea_popescu: no fucking way am i adding 50 lines of code
to deal with chrome's speshul.
trinque: when you JS, you must resist
the
temptation
to
think like JS, haha
trinque: all
this checking for null shit... beatings
trinque: jurov: he's got a delay in
there of 500ms
jurov: one of
these "schizoid paranoiac"
things i rather always follow
trinque: mircea_popescu: if I call scrollToHash in
the console myself, it works
trinque: that JS does have
the human hair, glue and googly eyes look
to it
trinque: Uncaught IndexSizeError: Failed
to execute 'setEnd' on 'Range':
The offset 118 is larger
than or equal
to
the node's length (0).
trinque: the line which is 623 on
trilema.com/2010/literara-este-grea/
trinque: mircea_popescu: Uncaught IndexSizeError: Failed
to execute 'setEnd' on 'Range':
The offset 419 is larger
than or equal
to
the node's length (0).
trinque: heh, I was just mentioning elsewhere
that
the only right way
to write browser JS is in
the mode of a schizoid paranoiac, suspecting all but
the most basic features of it of
trying
to steal your precious bodily fluids
mircea_popescu: hiring interview "mr X we will need you
to debug all
the browsers." "that's fine, but i will need all
the moneys" "we only have a fraction of
the moneys" "then i can debug a fraction of
the browsers" "well...
that isn't useful is it now."
mircea_popescu: but i can't be sending people on
this snipe expedition because i am a poorfag.
mircea_popescu: if any of you ever getting unexpected behaviour feel for some unknown reason a compulsion
to debug
the whys and wherefores, i would certainly listen
trinque: also
the selection
thing is scrolling
to
the paragraph involved, but not selecting
mircea_popescu: he did seem of
the "i feel like hacking on
this so fu" persuasion.
trinque: mircea_popescu: I
take
that as "we'll figure out
the business model later" when I hear it
mircea_popescu: the notion
that one'll make money from "licenses" in
the future... heh. not such a great plan.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes in particular it's unclear
to me how wise
the "licenses" angle is for a serenissima derivative. while i declined
to anull IP when diametric asked earlier, i am very very far from any sort of belief
that
the current model of
that stack of stupidity has any sort of hope for survival.
trinque: gotta bolt it
to some service he'd provide with
the
thing
that's desirable on its own
trinque: and no, I personally don't
think anyone will ever pay for such a
thing enough
to sustain its development
trinque: I found his repo, built it and bitched
that it didn't work :D
trinque: ben_vulpes: he's apparently going
to help me install his masamune
this weekend
ben_vulpes: professional services and licenses for
the custom ware
the software so produced run on?
ben_vulpes: is gabriel_laddel's business model really
that bad?
mircea_popescu: especially seeing how plenty of
the conjectures
that are still open problems are around a century old.
Kalki: Wait - it's not
the same as
the fee for mpex is it?
jurov: better sooner
than later... before
the new account fee rises again
Kalki: Yeah been meaning
to... Still reading and catching up -
jurov: yes, set up
the wot
Kalki: Kakobrekla - do you mean get it
together with a wot setup? Or what does !gettrust mean?
kakobrekla: somebody actually fixed
that so it does not include gribble anymore