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mircea_popescu: yes, he is. nobody asked fatso
to pretend like he's a banker nao.
mircea_popescu: magicaltux, and you're comment as ot whether "he's
to blame entirely"
☟︎ NewLiberty: Yes.
The paper has some potentially helpful implications
there.
assbot: Logged on 01-06-2015 20:46:23; mats:
the navy doesn't see nearly
the same level of folks going
to medical discharge boards
NewLiberty: pete_dushenski:
the ultimate gmaxwell use remains a mystery, but
the method described is also useful for other purposes which may be more immediately nice. (less computer resource needed for some monero functions)
pete_dushenski: resulting in a very congenial, even convivial environs with which
to get exactly nothing done
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: and guppi's expect
to be
treated "nice" in return
mircea_popescu: by know
there's an entire generation of
this office scum :
their job is
to "x and be nice".
they do exactly as much work as any guppi
mircea_popescu: then his boss comes back, discovers he's not done any work, and george goes "consider i am in
the smaller office!"
BingoBoingo: taptweutmsadcahtmuf << I dunno
this word, but "sad" seems important. Our cult gives outsiders
the sads
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski
there's a great seinfeld episode in which
that weasel costanza goes
to a job interview, decides
to show up
to work as if he had passed it,
the somewhat confused receptionist gives him a choice of offices, he
takes
the smaller one.
mircea_popescu: "THERE ARE PEOPLE
THERE WHO EXPECT US
TO MAKE SENSE AND DONT CARE ABOUT HOW
THIS MAKES US FEEL!!1"
assbot: Logged on 01-06-2015 20:28:02; williamdunne:
Thought
they were derpy so wanted
to discuss it on a public forum
pete_dushenski: this is also
teachers, nurses, doctors, lawyers, you name it.
mircea_popescu: blame attaches according
to sin, not according
to
the size of
the fireball.
NewLiberty: The zero knowledge oracle pieces, Fiat-Shamir, being put
to a good use would be a nice add.
williamdunne: Three year warranty on
the 2tb one
though kinda sucks
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski
the problem with not shooting retards is
that
they accumulate.
fluffypony: I'm
terribly interested in what gmaxwell is up
to, but he's already said
that whatever guesses we have about
this wider system we'd be wrong :)
NewLiberty: It does more for monero
than for bitcoin
NewLiberty: Right,
that is an important distinction.
fluffypony: but
the advantage for Monero is
that we may be able
to adopt
the scheme
to reduce our signature size and verification effort
fluffypony: it's part of a wider crypto ecosystem
that remains under wraps at
the moment
fluffypony: adding it
to Bitcoin won't add privacy
williamdunne: punkman: Am I
the only one
thinking he might not be *entirely*
to blame? (Entirely as if in he was incompetent, but someone else committed
the bad deed.
NewLiberty: Yes, it is one
that
takes work. More so for me certainly.
fluffypony: NewLiberty: no,
too buggered and
travelling at
the moment, so will look at it on Friday once I've landed back in SA and spent a day recovering :)
NewLiberty: Fluffypony, have you digested
the borromean ring stuff yet?
pete_dushenski: NewLiberty: ah, i
thought it was just assbot's l2 for some reason
fluffypony: jurov: I don't know if I can
trust a website called "worldnewsdailyreport" :-P
punkman: pete_dushenski: NewLiberty: you can self-voice dude << it says 0 via 2
there
pete_dushenski: cripes you'd
think
that 600k coins or whatever he embezzled would buy him a
tutor.
pete_dushenski: "you
take
the legs, i'll
take
the chest, he'll
take
the ears !"
pete_dushenski: "let's decentralise
the parts of a human body so
that it can be more efficient"
pete_dushenski: "One entity would be specialized in handling of coins. It would focus mostly on security, and could also offer processing for other
things
than exchanges (I’m
thinking about Lightning, for example). Existing wallet services are probably in a good position
to start working on
this kind of solutions." << what a fucking retard. no spellcheck, no braincheck...
pete_dushenski: but if, say, biometric data is a pre-condition for coverage,
that doesn't mean
that
the insurance company should be paying you
to use it
nubbins`: if pumpkin futures for october are
through
the roof, why wouldn't
they be even higher just after xmas?
pete_dushenski: nubbins`: if said insurance company needs data now, why wouldn't it need more data later with which
to compare
the original info ?
nubbins`: how 'bout when you just shit yourself in
the parking lot outside
the funeral home?
nubbins`: what's
the value of a sheet of
toilet paper while you're
taking a shit, vs while you're
taking a shower?
nubbins`: maybe
the insurance company has a very large need of biometric data when figuring out rates for a new policy program
pete_dushenski: 'audiences' being 'the people' and
therefore incapable of imparting value on anything whatsoever
pete_dushenski: well
that's just fashion, which is inherently worthless.
nubbins`: but was rad as hell in
the mid 2030s
nubbins`: maybe
the lighting in Heat was
too blue for audiences in
the late 2010s
pete_dushenski: value being a very subjective
thing when
there's no scarcity or fungibility
pete_dushenski: pretty much his proposal, except extended even further so
that people sharing
their biometrics or whatever with
their insurance companies or employers would be paid extra
nubbins`: imagine
those youtube pop-up
text ads, but "like
the sound in
this scene? send satoshis
to 1Rambo5SoundGuyxxx"
nubbins`: "He proposes a
two-way linking system
that would point
to
the source of any piece of information, creating an economy of micropayments
that compensates people for original material
they post
to
the web."
pete_dushenski: ah well, fuck it. if anyone falls for his rambling nonsense,
they deserve it.
pete_dushenski: the dude is so all over
the map, markov chaining so hard,
that i have nothing
to grab onto without pulling
the entire universe along with me
pete_dushenski: i've been doing some reading on
this jaron lanier fellow, looking for an angle
to roast him on for a blog post but i have
to admit i'm at a loss
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: did
the derp from fortune who didn't link
to qntra ever come clean ?
pete_dushenski: so if security is a matter of making attacks expensive, a dumbphone still
trumps a smartphone
pete_dushenski: needless
to say, stingray or
tower
triangulation are more expensive
to implement
than gps
tracking in smartphones
lobbes: <BingoBoingo> I enjoyed it, but also missed out on 1&2 << Same boat here. I never played 1 & 2, but
thoroughly enjoyed 3 & 3.5. My buddy, who had played
the originals, also felt disappointed. It's all relative (tm), I guess.
nubbins`: but in all cases, going
through official routes
to get info from
telco vs just
turning on a piece of kit?
nubbins`: sure, and a lot of
the problems surrounding
that part of
the puzzle are different now
nubbins`: go back and re-watch
The Wire and see
the hassle
they went
through
tapping cell phones, and
then imagine giving
them a suitcase
that blasts out
the strongest cell signal in
the projects so every phone preferentially
tries
to connect
to it
pete_dushenski: not
that
there wouldn't be some red
tape and paperwork, i suppose.
pete_dushenski: telco
telling cops
to fuck off
though ? maybe 10 years ago.
nubbins`: stingray would ostensibly be a single-point unit, less useful for
triangulation, more of a "warmer/colder" style
nubbins`: look, your phone's connected
to x
towers right now, each with a diff signal strength. basic math gives a rough location
nubbins`: it's useful if
the
telco
tells you
to fuck off
pete_dushenski: ftr i don't know
that 'stingray' is all
that useful, may be 'teaching
the controversy'
pete_dushenski: if all you need are cell phone
towers
to determine location, why
the fuck does stingray matter ?
menahem: williamdunne
thanks for sharing
the shirt, lol. :) ill have it available for purchase soon,
tweaking
the shipping options.
nubbins`: triangulating your position based on cell
towers?
mod6: <+chetty> mod6 what version ubuntu? << 14.10? not sure off
the
top of my head. i'll work on it
tonight. will let you know.
BingoBoingo: I enjoyed
that Fallout 3.5 game in Vegas more
than 3
though
BingoBoingo: Bethesda is announcing Fallout 4
tomorrow, hot on
the heels of
the Eulora beta announcement.
mircea_popescu: that's
the nature of
this "investment". "we can use your money"
mircea_popescu: if you're so inclined, you can find a woman on
the street willing
to call your bar bills "investments", and
then make you some kids
to invest into further.
mircea_popescu: it just calls people
that if
that's what
they want
to be called.
assbot: Logged on 01-06-2015 20:22:07; Landgull:
They need
to stop
talking about what
they need and start
talking about what
they will do for
their investors.
mod6: gonna mess with it later
tonight. i don't remember what I did before
to resolve
this, been
too long.
mod6: i
tried
to get it up and going lastnight on
the
throw-away ubuntu lappy has an intel graphics card. i had
the previous release running on
there, but have since wiped it. everything compiled fine lastnight. 'cept when starting `euclient`, it complained about no 3d graphics or something similar.
mike_c: cazalla: I'm going
to
try dual-booting another box of mine and see if i can get eulora/ubuntu going. I'll post my step-by-step if it works
☟︎ mike_c: mircea_popescu: got
the acct info,
thanks