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alphonse23_: I guess it's made very user friendly though

williamdunne: shinohai: Exactly, you don't have to, to use the service :)

alphonse23_: *they generate the primes

alphonse23_: that generate the primes right in front of you! :)

shinohai: Thats just it, I wouldn't be storing my keys there.

alphonse23_: if anyone wants them :)

asciilifeform: alphonse23_: if you let them generate keys for you, they have your private key. this ought to be elementarily obvious

williamdunne: Personally I like it, just don't store your keys there

alphonse23_: i've been using a service called keybase.io lately. Is that a noob service?

alphonse23_: oh, so if you want to store your pgp some where, so anyone can verify it's you, you upload it to sks

asciilifeform: typically users of pgp/gpg upload their public keys there, and they can later be retrieved by anyone using a hash of the key

alphonse23_: I've never heard of the sks key server

asciilifeform: alphonse23_: instead we found that someone is uploading carefully modified versions of other people's keys to sks key server net

alphonse23_: find the NSA at work?

asciilifeform: alphonse23_: the idea is to find evidence of sabotaged implementations of rsa key generator.

asciilifeform: alphonse23_: basic idea, which is very old, is that euclid's greatest-common-divisor algorithm is very fast, for arbitrarily large numbers. so if two or more rsa keys were to share a factor, it will pop up.

alphonse23_: what's the purpose of all this?

alphonse23_: why no go decrypt some twitter traffic or something

alphonse23_: twitter works on 2056 I think

asciilifeform: alphonse23_: 'phuctor' deals only with traditional rsa keys.

asciilifeform: alphonse23_: rsa is not especially complicated. you can understand the basic idea after an hour's study

alphonse23_: maybe you can ask that about everything

asciilifeform: alphonse23_: 'checking them all', given current of foreseeable technology, would take several thousand years.

williamdunne: alphonse23_: This might help you understand what the 4096 means

alphonse23_: i'm not that big of a noob

asciilifeform: williamdunne: i think we have a genuine noob here, and you are addling him

asciilifeform: is the question specifically concerning the buggy debian rng ?

alphonse23_: you could just check them all.

alphonse23_: doesn't that only leave a handful of primes though

alphonse23_: so 4096 is the maximum size of the product of the two primes?

alphonse23_: or the maximum size of what the two primes are multiplied to each other?

asciilifeform: alphonse23_: no. the size of the modulus, typically a product of two primes

alphonse23_: the maximum size of the primes

alphonse23_: what does 4096 refer to

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williamdunne: Pure hilarity on this show

asciilifeform: alphonse23_: you still there?

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NewLiberty: I'm on solar so, up to what I produce, no added cost

trinque: BingoBoingo: dispute over the pod bay doors << bwhahahaha

NewLiberty: good rule of thumb being $1/v/annum

BingoBoingo: NewLiberty: All depends on the machine and amps.

BingoBoingo: trinque: Kako's cat prolly typed assbot too. Either that or there is another dispute over the pod bay doors.

NewLiberty: $10/month is about equiv to the electricity cost of a 120v machine running 24/7 for a year

alphonse23_: I bet even if I knew what that algorithm is, Id' still have doubts

trinque: is teh arsebot sleepin?

alphonse23_: does 4096 refer to the max size of one of the primes. or the primes multiplied togetheR? ☟︎

alphonse23_: for instance, I'd like to actually understands rsa factoring

alphonse23_: k, I have othing things I'd like to learn that to setup something to log an irc channel

trinque: tons of virtual hosting things out there

alphonse23_: see, more than irccloud

trinque: I think linode starts out at 10 bucks a month

alphonse23_: owning a server, even if it's through digital ocean, would still be slightly more expensive.

danielpbarron: i assumed anything that he might have read that pointed to this channel would have also linked to the real phuctor but yeah ok ☟︎

BingoBoingo: alphonse23_: Well, if you want to be a dick you could use botnet slaves as IRC bouncer, but easier to leave an old machine on at home to bounce IRC. Black and white Macs are ideal

alphonse23_: I wonder though. I pay irccloud 5 dollars a month

alphonse23_: well. maybe I could do that.

trinque: decent intro to fiddling with such things if you never have

alphonse23_: do I have to purchase the server?

BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Not that I know of, but dude wanted to know if it was trolling, so the solution is point them to the fount of data

BingoBoingo: <danielpbarron> no, you explain yourself! << For the record in tis situation you coulda just linked http://nosuchlabs.com/stats

jurov: i got some results from /explore but i have no idea about them yet

jurov: http://www.eulorum.org/Gameplay << this is literally all I have figured out after hours of gameplay. ☟︎

ben_vulpes: webify all the things!

trinque: they've webified that, but people have done it since ancient times

trinque: and which you connect to with your client

trinque: alphonse23_: this is generally a "bouncer" you run elsewhere from your local computer

alphonse23_: really? but do you keep your computer on at all times?

alphonse23_: I think I got it specificically for channels that I wanted to logged, that didn't have anyone doing it for them.

alphonse23_: but it depends if the channel is logged

alphonse23_: yes, they keep track of the history of all the channels I'm in

alphonse23_: it is, but they do the archiving for you

alphonse23_: I decided I use IRC enough to pay for the service

alphonse23_: what do the logs say?

trinque: if the logs are any indication

trinque: alphonse23_: that irccloud thing seems like a turd

shinohai: Yeah. I like the bash logs, I can even read those on android.

danielpbarron: don't forget the log

shinohai: I'm trying to catch up on the entire mailing list before I joined. :/

trinque: danielpbarron: looks like he explained himself rather thoroughly eh?

shinohai: I have so much reading left to do danielpbarron

alphonse23_: claiming it was trolling

alphonse23_: HN was shaming that announcement

trinque: just tends to be the first thing that comes up

alphonse23_: trinque: I know! I'm not that big of a noob

trinque: that's the one, yes

trinque: alphonse23_: note that this does not mean RSA in the abstract is broken

danielpbarron: and you are the user who ... ?

danielpbarron: yeah something like that

alphonse23_: or something like that

alphonse23_: this is the channel that announced that they factore a 4067 rsa key

trinque: what's this, bots here to munch logs?

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trinque: I was just about to ask the same :)

ascii_field: crafted with an angle towards 'plausible deniability if one doesn't look too closely,' yes

ascii_field: jurov: those things were crafted. not a shred of doubt remains in my mind about it.

ascii_field: endian issue was the first hypothesis i considered - and rejected

ascii_field: jurov: why would this affect the exponent (magic-98 set, rather than this latest one) and adjust the length field correctly ?

jurov: but then the bytes would be shuffled, not bits reversed ☟︎

ascii_field: see the earlier linked image for which bytes were altered