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gabriel_laddel: mod6: fyi, if you follow
that funtoo install guide and don't use
the masamune-specific replacements you'll end up with a binary kernel (funtoo has already started decaying) - make sure you use
the KERNEL section of system.html if nothing else
decimation: lots of ultimately fruitless activity
triggered by both of
those
mircea_popescu: so
they just
throw
things at it. "Can't hurt, right ?" "test more
things"
mircea_popescu: retarded people who do not belong in front of a computer
try
their darndest
to "make it secure" but have no fucking idea what
that is
mircea_popescu: it's just
this entire frantic activity as a cover-up for impotence.
decimation: but nevertheless someone
thought
they should program a check for
the expiration date on
the pki cert
decimation: key expiration is kinda like
the 'colored coins' idea
mircea_popescu: key expiring has nothing
to do with verifying material
they produced
tho
decimation: I
tend
to agree
that expiration dates don't belong on keys
decimation: mod6: creating an 'installer'
that will work on abitrary hardware is not easy at all
mod6: gabriel_laddel: werd. it /seems/ right. but like I said, maybe another look will
tell
the
tale. i'll be checking it out more
tomorrow.
gabriel_laddel: mod6: I'd compare your fdisk -l /dev/sda with
the contents of /etc/fstab
mod6: i basically created a livecd, did everything as instructed
through
the gentoo handbook.
mod6: well, after an `ls` at
the grub prompt anyway.
mod6: but when i boot up, i get "grub2> " prompt and
then shit like
this: "(hd0) (hd0,msdos1) (hd0,msdos2) (hd0,msdos3) (hd0,msdos4) (fd0)"
decimation: on
the other hand, how hard would it be
to use ntpdate first
decimation: possibly because it
tries
to download
timestamped files?
mod6: thanks, just
took a look. im not even sure my problems are gentoo related exactly. i
think i have a good /etc/fstab. and i /think/ my partition
table was setup correctly with fdisk.
this pos box had win7 on it, im guessing it's MBR and not EFI.
mircea_popescu: it's just... why
the fuck would
the color of your blouse decide whether it rains
that day
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: yeah, portage needs
to die - 70k loc, python.
mircea_popescu: "If your system's date and
time are
too far off (typically by months or years,)
then it may prevent Portage from properly downloading source
tarballs. "
☟︎ gabriel_laddel: but if mod6 is in need of something
that works, well -
there it is
mod6: i'll
try it out. i hosed up my grub; haven't had a chance
to
tinker/rebuild yet.
mod6: feel free
to send it my way.
gabriel_laddel: mod6: I have a *working* funtoo install guide, which is for all intents and purposes
the same as gentoo
mircea_popescu: that "once" may well be bridge
too far for many practical applications.
assbot: Logged on 03-06-2015 00:40:32; alphonse23_: I've actually been meaning
to start using a key locker or something
gabriel_laddel: re:not rewriting code,
the story of CMUCL and its
transformation into SBCL is quite pertinent
decimation: shoving shit into
the lower layers of
the conceptual stack just ends up causing pain and suffering
decimation: yeah, people need
to read
the 'end-to-end principle'
BingoBoingo: btrfs is pretty much doomed
to suck. Reiser of FFS ftw
decimation: (Though,
this does include
the linecount, which has now passed 100KLOC, more
than double
that of XFS or ext*. Scary).
decimation:
http://codemonkey.org.uk/2015/03/13/lsfmm-2015-recap/ < lol . Josef did
touch on one area
that btrfs does still suck, which apparently is database workloads (iirc, due
to
the copy-on-write nature of btrfs).
The spurious ENOSPC failures of
the past should hopefully stay in
the past.
Things generally on
the up and up.
decimation: it 'works',
they 'made money', who is
to question?
decimation: and also,
they generally profit at
the end of
the day
mircea_popescu: thing is... i might be
the only suit
that can
tell
the difference between bad and good code, on account of being
the only suit
that is also literate. as in, literature-literate.
decimation: you see
the programmers are
too busy 'delivering'
to
think about issues like 'why is
the whole
thing a peice of shit'
mircea_popescu: at bug
that occurred when
the file is on a floppy disk and
the user yanks out
the disk in
the middle.
That LoadLibrary call is ugly but it makes
the code work on old versions of Windows 95."
mircea_popescu: "Back
to
that
two page function. Yes, I know, it's just a simple function
to display a window, but it has grown little hairs and stuff on it and nobody knows why. Well, I'll
tell you why:
those are bug fixes. One of
them fixes
that bug
that Nancy had when she
tried
to install
the
thing on a computer
that didn't have Internet Explorer. Another one fixes
that bug
that occurs in low memory conditions. Another one fixes
th
mircea_popescu: the idea
that new code is better
than old IS NOT patently absurd when
the old code was writen by unaware idiots.
mircea_popescu: "The idea
that new code is better
than old is patently absurd. Old code has been used. It has been
tested. Lots of bugs have been found, and
they've been fixed.
There's nothing wrong with it. It doesn't acquire bugs just by sitting around on your hard drive. Au contraire, baby! Is software supposed
to be like an old Dodge Dart,
that rusts just sitting in
the garage? Is software like a
teddy bear
that's kind of gross if
mircea_popescu: "Before Borland's new spreadsheet for Windows shipped, Philippe Kahn,
the colorful founder of Borland, was quoted a lot in
the press bragging about how Quattro Pro would be much better
than Microsoft Excel, because it was written from scratch. All new source code! As if source code rusted."
decimation: why is it so complicated
to shit stuff on port 80
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
today i had
to look into mod security. which somehow didn't run,
tho it was included in apache. which needed
to be recompiled. which failed. do you happen
to have any idea what apache's like incidentally ?
decimation: although at
times can be a bit rambling
decimation: qntra seems
to have original content generally
BingoBoingo: <decimation> asciilifeform: note
that most of
the 'news outlets' cut and paste
the errors of other outlets << How do you score qntra on
this scale?
decimation: asciilifeform: note
that most of
the 'news outlets' cut and paste
the errors of other outlets
assbot: Logged on 02-06-2015 23:27:20; alphonse23_: does 4096 refer
to
the max size of one of
the primes. or
the primes multiplied
togetheR?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform reason actually related
to
the " one of
the reasons why such environments are unpopular"
mircea_popescu: as if reality were contusive or something. which, i suppose it actually is for
their ilk
decimation: asciilifeform: aye, precisely. but
those 'bugs in head' are
the primary concern of a programmer, presumably
assbot: Logged on 02-06-2015 23:25:27; danielpbarron: i assumed anything
that he might have read
that pointed
to
this channel would have also linked
to
the real phuctor but yeah ok
decimation: asciilifeform: I would be willing
to make
the
trade
to some kind of fascist ada if I could be assured
that
the
tools would detect nearly all detectablle bugs
decimation: but still, not a bad idea
to break code into 'paragraphs'
mircea_popescu: Limit functions
to no more
than 60 lines of
text. << 60 because why. my screen fits 24.
assbot: Logged on 02-06-2015 22:35:55; jurov: but
then
the bytes would be shuffled, not bits reversed
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> 'Andy confirmed
that Coverity does not spot
the heartbleed flaw and said
that it remained stubborn even when
they
tweaked various analysis settings.' << Can't spot heartbleed because custom OpenSSL malloc
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform generally, it is a safe assumption
that any diddlomatics coming out of nsa are highly engineered
to bypass automatic detection
assbot: Logged on 02-06-2015 22:27:24; ascii_field: at
this point it probably makes sense
to churn
the entire sks db for
tuples of keys having same userid and date, and diff all said
tuples.
decimation: I'm not sure if
they also submitted
the deps, but bitcoin weighs in at 16 million lines of code
decimation: I
think you need
to get an account, I will
try
to see if it is
that easy