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mircea_popescu: ah hehe
mircea_popescu: why that ?
mircea_popescu: (you can make synthetic frns from a fixed-rate bond like you favour and a swap, you know)
mircea_popescu: i meant irl.
mircea_popescu: (i have, both, but i mean anyone else)
mircea_popescu: btw, im curious if anyone owning mining bonds at any point ever owned a perpetual frn.
mircea_popescu: whazzat EskimoBob ?
mircea_popescu: smickles especially a hosting that won't pull a linode
mircea_popescu: smickles maybe. i think it;s pretty close to that as it is.
mircea_popescu: smickles i just think we're not there yet :p
mircea_popescu: better make it use defaults than spit error
mircea_popescu: what if the math model proves it could benefit from some tweaking ?
mircea_popescu: (just to show you i did consider things there(
mircea_popescu: the entire lantern collapses.
mircea_popescu: once you have to have human hands in there
mircea_popescu: that you can't let random idiots ipo.
mircea_popescu: o wow one at a time huh
mircea_popescu: !pl GIGAMINING 900@.9 2012-04-15
mircea_popescu: mmm
mircea_popescu: ok whats the pl do then ?
mircea_popescu: !help
mircea_popescu: people always knew libor is shit.
mircea_popescu: for the reason recently discovered : libor was fixed.
mircea_popescu: fake floaters. they have a bad reputation in fiat
mircea_popescu: the issue here is tat most of fiat is rotten to the core and unusable.
mircea_popescu: trust me, i have no problem copying what works.
mircea_popescu: smickles maybe. except the problem of ipo.
mircea_popescu: which, probably, will be very contorted in fiat terms.
mircea_popescu: i believe we need to proceed deductively based on btc principles and come up with functional instruments
mircea_popescu: i don't believe we need to try and replicate fiat instruments in btc.
mircea_popescu: "properly"
mircea_popescu: mmm. ellaborate on this.
mircea_popescu: aha ?
mircea_popescu: which is why most people send towards the end of a month.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla o cool!
mircea_popescu: but anyway it's not used till the 31st.
mircea_popescu: if you send money on the 5th of august you can ask for it back on the 20th
mircea_popescu: suppose month ends on 28th july, 31st of august
mircea_popescu: well, not really. and any way you can't recall them during their current month.
mircea_popescu: is kakobrekla gonna start spuirting asset lines now ? :D
mircea_popescu: smickles this is already there, people can just notify they want their money back
mircea_popescu: but i have done my math and i think i am large enough to push this through.
mircea_popescu: in part for other reasons.
mircea_popescu: in part because of scam assets like ppt, in part because the boneheaded idiots on the forum are playing ther citizen dentist
mircea_popescu: which currently does not exist.
mircea_popescu: because i want to create a refinance market for btc.
mircea_popescu: it never used more than 10k iirc, and i'm significantly above that, personally.
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob : again, i could easily just use my own capital to finance all of it.
mircea_popescu: the btc market is by its nature in a position where those liniar assumptions are harmful.
mircea_popescu: i do not wish to limit it.
mircea_popescu: if you mean limit then yes.
mircea_popescu: depends what you mean by plan.
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: im not sure i follow this.
mircea_popescu: why ?
mircea_popescu: seeing how miner bonds trade at arround 30-35x their dividend and mpoe seems more like 300x
mircea_popescu: but i think a laeger share of the price is due to the company/prospects than to the direct dividend.
mircea_popescu: they've always been paid monthly.
mircea_popescu: my goal is to develop btc financials tho.
mircea_popescu: if i wanted to run mpoe as a private thing i could have continued to do so, indefinitely.
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: just look at bitcoinica to understand.
mircea_popescu: not holding on to money has at least the very good quality of reducing risk.
mircea_popescu: what do you mean "pointless" ?
mircea_popescu: that's the customer's.
mircea_popescu: it can never have any.
mircea_popescu: all it makes is pushed to shareholders and bondhoders
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob the way mpoe is set-up it's a 0 capital venture. it has no capital of its own.
mircea_popescu: naked options are the bane of finance.
mircea_popescu: nope.
mircea_popescu: it is after all a market maker.
mircea_popescu: i write both at all times, at some prices.
mircea_popescu: they deposit.
mircea_popescu: it varies, atm i have written a lot of calls, others wrote a lot of puts.
mircea_popescu: altho people also write their own.
mircea_popescu: well, there's a bot, but it's my bot so yeah.
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob now that's a point.
mircea_popescu: copumpkin yeah buit companies have something to go on. i scarcely do.
mircea_popescu: how do i plan for the future when the very essence of this future is the unknown ?
mircea_popescu: sometimes options sell some other times they do not.
mircea_popescu: i can't.
mircea_popescu: i don't know how much i need upfront.
mircea_popescu: how can i get capital for august 5 on august the 31st ?
mircea_popescu: i think we're talking at crosspurposes.
mircea_popescu: what do i do, time travel ?
mircea_popescu: man. i only need what capital i need in august on august the 31st
mircea_popescu: but i only know the demand retrospectively.
mircea_popescu: seeing how everyone's anon.
mircea_popescu: this is a big problem in btc cause it opens me up to being charged of various malfeasances.
mircea_popescu: it has to be actively managed.
mircea_popescu: how do you mean EskimoBob ?
mircea_popescu: that'll be interesting.
mircea_popescu: copumpkin i actually am thinking of taking the 5% rate out completely, and let it freefloat.
mircea_popescu: and i don't want to, cause imo that's the main value of the entire thing, it allows me to have a mpbor
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob if either of those go i'd have to take out the "pick your own %"
mircea_popescu: copumpkin how do you figure ?!
mircea_popescu: smickles why would there be ?
mircea_popescu: well so far it was oversubscribed from what i see.
mircea_popescu: copumpkin yeah, it's the #1 complaint i hear. but that's there to ensure competition tho
mircea_popescu: hmm, i guess it could be argued lol. except...