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mircea_popescu: if one's forced to pick prolly best pick a mix, but yeah
Landgull: I don't own real estate in Lviv and won't particularly recommend it as an investment. Though it's probably better than a US bank account, which I do have.
mircea_popescu: what's the idea, someone'll indemnify you, come hell or high water, because they deeply care ?
assbot: Logged on 03-06-2015 04:37:45; Landgull: You can buy enough rental properties in Lviv to live indefinitely with indefinite free time for ~$100k USD.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152567 << i wonder what should be happening in one's head who "owns" real estate in random country but employs no army there. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152529 << for the local equivalent of checking someone else's privilege for them, yeah. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: Landgull the future hears you and says "your cheap psycho-skullduggery holds no power here".
assbot: Logged on 03-06-2015 04:24:38; asciilifeform: Landgull: planning to live by gleaning ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152520 << this and http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152525 make for excellent reading. alf's developing the delivery skills of a character in a tenessee williams play. ☝︎☝︎
Landgull: But if you try to ban leaving, they have to admit what they really are.
Landgull: If a few dissidents flee, what of it? They were dissidents anyway.
Landgull: It would, though. The US learned from the USSR: you're better off making people believe that you'll be murdered and raped and strangled if you go anywhere and leave the hotel. It keeps people in line much more effectively than a travel ban would.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152507 << amusingly, the best pay for teaching greek was after the city collapsed ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: what is this, crazy logic hour ?
assbot: Logged on 03-06-2015 03:48:44; Landgull: They can't ban flights in and out of the US, that would strangle the beast.
Vexual: its funny coz its true
Vexual: southpark episides are so much easier to invent than southpark episides
Vexual: more of an openeded intelecutal thingus really
Landgull: Homo facebookus would have to be aware of its life to die.
Vexual: they renamed rabies here when they discovered over 50% of the fruitbats had it
mircea_popescu: "we joined bitcoin because we didn't like the banks so please take our bitcoin and put it in a bank"
mircea_popescu: the masquerade where "people" ie, social media astroturf is misrepresented as being in favour of this atrocity...
BingoBoingo: Apparently some upstate politician who called himself Illinois fats died this week.
Landgull: I don't think they can keep fighting physics and math forever.
mircea_popescu: it will self-defeat once the last policeman is buried in the coffin of the last politician.
mircea_popescu: Landgull the 20mb block is a transparent attempt by the usg to take control back.
Vexual: it means it time to vet ur nodes or ask someone else to bitcoin for you
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> if one scales shit linarily, a 20mb block would be verified by this machine in 560 seconds, or just a shade under 10 minutes << Welcome to my world
Landgull: So doesn't that mean the 20mb block will self-defeat?
mircea_popescu: meaning that the average server your average internaut can't afford would barely keep up with the chain.
mircea_popescu: if one scales shit linarily, a 20mb block would be verified by this machine in 560 seconds, or just a shade under 10 minutes
mircea_popescu: back when it was comissioned coupla years ago it blazed through them at the rate of 7-10 seconds per.
mircea_popescu: in sadder news, a reasonably recent 8 core server is doing block verification at the rate of 28 seconds per. ☟︎
Landgull: It's definitely safer than the city I grew up in back in the US.
Landgull: Or the "I want your money" and then run away sort.
Landgull: Eh, violence here when it happens is much more the fist fight sort than the murder sort.
Vexual: like strippers that dont pull a gun?
Landgull: I'm not trying to claim that this is some kind of paradise, it's absolutely not, and you have to give up a lot of the "first world" comforts.
Vexual: fuck furn around here and the shits got maggots
Landgull: If the bacteria won't eat it...
Landgull: Which sounds like a bad thing, but I'd like to know why it is that chicken rots much faster in Ukraine than in the US...
Landgull: Well, they're still firm, because they're fresh. But you have to go to the market every day or two because the food goes bad quickly. ☟︎
Vexual: i kinda like em firm like that
Landgull: The reason tomatoes are pink instead of red is they're heterozygous for RIN, or ripening-inhibition gene to make them ship better. ☟︎
Landgull: People from the villages around Lviv bring in what they grow and sell it to you. No mass-produced GMO rin tomatoes.
Landgull: The food is better than anything I've ever had before.
Landgull: If you actually go shop at the market and take public transport, as opposed to walling yourself off in some hotel.
Vexual: can you get a good tomato?
Landgull: Cost of living, for the same standard of living, is ~5-10x lower here than in the US
Vexual: chapagnes that cheap huh?
Landgull: For the next 2.5 months.
Landgull: It was more of a quip than a serious comment - but I know a number of people who spend their time yelling at the box because of what obama/the republicans/the gays/the church did today.
Vexual: cable tv?
Landgull: Moving. The fact that people still pay for cable is proof that the second isn't for everyone.
Landgull: And if the western finance system does come crashing down, you're going to be better off in poor countries (granted that you can live like a local) because they're used to things like that happening. USistan will devolve into utter insanity.
Landgull: I'd rather there were a safe, sane, stable country where I could go, build a business, and have a normal life, but that's not going to exist until btc finishes what it has started. ☟︎
Vexual: they do finger wagging with the windows up
Vexual: in australia, its too hot for the cops to get out of the car mostly
Landgull: I like learning languages, and I like buying my food in an open air market from the person who grew it.
Landgull: I used to be running from.
Landgull: Decimation: I'm not running from, I'm running to.
decimation: Landgull: seems like a high price to pay in terms of years of your life for very thin guarantees ☟︎
Vexual: how much is the chapagne agian?!?!
Landgull: Same thing with the women. If you go to Ukraine, find English speaking girls, and flash your passport and cash around, you're going to have a bad day.
asciilifeform: if Landgull did this - congrats to him
Landgull: Sure. And it's why you do need to actually integrate. I.E. learn the language, get to know people, etc.
asciilifeform: Landgull: this cuts both ways. if locals start charging you $1000/mo for the great privilege of your flat not being torched, the officials -also- will not care.
Landgull: The babusya/babushkas here have more power than Poroshenko does.
Landgull: Decimation: You're imagining that governments in the rest of the world work like the US government. I.E. the laws on the books matter. They can pass a law saying just about anything they want, but they don't have the means to enforce it and they have a population that is used to just ignoring government stupidity instead of bending over.
asciilifeform cannot comment on the specifics of Landgull's case here, but the overall prognosis of americans who go abroad 'for the gurlz' is dire
Landgull: Ascii: met the girl in Canada, she pays for half of everything, and she's not interested in ever going back to the west, because it's too insane.
asciilifeform: and re: their sanity once you renounce your u.s. passport formally
asciilifeform: Landgull: get back to us re: the girls once you have $0 ☟︎
Landgull: Ascii: I won't disagree with you (decimation, you're wrong.) that most of the world is currently under the USgov thumb, to some degree. But you are still better off in an outlying part of it, where the control is less potent, and has much less influence on your daily life (like, in terms of being able to buy food that doesn't make you sick, and being able to date girls who aren't insane) than you are sitting in their back yard
asciilifeform: mats: or the abundance of buggy legit-signed drivers to dynamically load and exploit
asciilifeform: mats: considering the ease of bypassing uac on all known winblows, sorta academic
decimation: ^ if ascii wanted to live in a mut hut, he could do in the us for the same price
asciilifeform: but why is this exciting
decimation: you are part of the greater-usaia that has no pretense of rights
asciilifeform: just living in the 76th state or the like.
decimation: and I'm saying that you have lept from the frying pan into the fire
asciilifeform: Landgull: i was merely arguing that you have not actually left usa
Landgull: ...for the last time, I'm not saying "Hey guys, you should move to Ukraine." or that I'm moving to Ukraine for that matter - I prefer South America on the whole. I'm saying that if you want personal liberty, and to not live in an insane culture, you can actually leave and be better off.
asciilifeform: it is not enough for the defensive weapon to make attack unprofitable, or even suicidal. it must be -unthinkable-
mats: fun fact: there are ascii art animals in the windows source
decimation: or an entire village pointing the finger at the foreign wrecker
Landgull: You don't go running headfirst towards tanks unless you're an idiot.
decimation: what is your kalash going to do against a T-72?
mats: why would you think that ☟︎
asciilifeform: mats: i thought this was well-known
mats: fun fact: some large radio telescopes were built for earth to moon to earth surveillance of su radars
Landgull: Ascii: a kalashnikov in the hands of every resident would achieve the same thing. ☟︎
asciilifeform: Landgull: 'right to self-determination' comes from these gadgets and nowhere else.
asciilifeform: anything short of this, is just switching the selection of imperial rapist
decimation: I'm opposed to the lack of liberty in the us
decimation: woah, I never said I was opposed to us imperialism
asciilifeform: and submarines to sail them on.
asciilifeform: Landgull: any flea-bitten village can become an independent country. all it needs to do is learn to manufacture ballistic rockets and nukes by the thousands.
Landgull: So, you're opposed to US imperialism, but simultaneously think that people shouldn't have a right to self-determination?
decimation: because they suck, and cannot achieve it