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Landgull: Since you're right
that I don't know who he is, I can't respond
to
that argument.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile le chien andalou still stands, or
to quote herr orwell... "Clearly, such people are undesirable, and a society in which
they can flourish has something wrong with it."
mircea_popescu: i struggle
to find any value in any of his productions, and you certainly don't even know what
they are.
mircea_popescu: so now... nobody would have disagreed at
the
time
that his madonna whore complex is "wholesome" -
their exact words.
mircea_popescu: forget
the
thousand,
take
the hundred. lazar meir, since we've discussed him earlier, had some very strange ideas about good, and constructed a very crazy united states. forcing a point it could be said
that he is
the architect of
today's woes in
the hinterlands, exactly like lincoln is
the architect of
the black poverty and racial
tensions.
☟︎ Landgull: Sure, but if we were
to be forced
to place a bet on what would be read 1,000 years from now, my bet would go
towards
the good.
Landgull: Even if
the cause is imperceptible, without some skill of maintenance everything crumbles in
time. Which book is a best seller
today is likely random and inscrutable, no book would be read 1,000 years after being written without skill.
assbot: Logged on 03-06-2015 05:47:08; Landgull: I'd rather
there were a safe, sane, stable country where I could go, build a business, and have a normal life, but
that's not going
to exist until btc finishes what it has started.
assbot: Logged on 03-06-2015 05:42:05; decimation: Landgull: seems like a high price
to pay in
terms of years of your life for very
thin guarantees
mircea_popescu: Landgull
there's no hard and fast requirement
that what happens is perceptible.
this in
the general.
there's also no requirement
that what is perceptible is perceptible
to you (ie, any arbitrary agent).
the expectation
that you personally would understand what happened in x or y complex political situation is,
to me, highly comedic.
Landgull: But what I mean is
this: your argument is a non-form because
the goal posts can always be shifted. If
they have a strategic advantage of any sort, it can be claimed as a wave. Some strategic advantage will always exist. So
the only way a minority can organize against a majority without "just riding a wave" is if
they ignore all of
their strategic advantages - which would make your supreme good exceedingly foolish. It's like say
assbot: Logged on 03-06-2015 05:37:26; asciilifeform: Landgull: get back
to us re:
the girls once you have $0
mircea_popescu: except
this situation only exists in sid meyer's "civilisation"
Landgull: If one recognizes
the value of some asset, such as oil, and uses it
to its fullest benefit
to gain power, I'd find it hard
to successfully argue
that it's not a group coming
to power by organizing its ascendency.
BingoBoingo: Hell in Arabi Wahabism is bgger
than USia as ISIL demonstrates
Landgull: That only solidifies
the argument
that
the House of Saud is a minority
that came
to power by will rather
than by riding a wave.
mircea_popescu: you figure if al pacino makes a movie for new line cinema, nlc is doing HIM a favour by
this ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> next you're gonna
tell me
the us exists by serving
tenochtitlan << Eric Holder's ATF did...
mircea_popescu: historically, saudi kingdom was well established and independent back when wolves ate more people on
the us east coast
than people killed wolves. politically,
the us has ~alkways~ been
the bitch in
the us-saudi relationship.
mircea_popescu: next you're gonna
tell me
the us exists by serving
tenochtitlan
Landgull: It's how
they've solidified and maintained it.
mircea_popescu: Landgull where you got
the idea
that
the saudites came
to power serving
the us ?
assbot: Logged on 03-06-2015 05:31:22; Landgull: Ascii: a kalashnikov in
the hands of every resident would achieve
the same
thing.
Landgull: Both minority groups
that organized
their way
to power by becoming useful as puppets
to larger entities (RU and USA, respectively.) Arguably better
than
the mob
that is
trying
to seize power, but
then,
that mob is mostly backed by
the respective large entities anyway.
Landgull: So I
take it you're a fan of
the Assad government,
then? Or
the House of Saud?
assbot: Logged on 03-06-2015 05:32:11; mats: why would you
think
that
mircea_popescu: a minority
that actually organises its ascendancy over any majority is
the supreme good.
mircea_popescu: Landgull as you age you'll notice
that organizing anything is
too much effort for most minorities, and in general what
they do is
try
to ride waves, like flies plowing.
assbot: Logged on 03-06-2015 05:27:03; asciilifeform: rather
than
the anglo-created zoos
they are
Landgull: If a state of affairs is highly profitable for a minority at
the expense of a majority, and is maintained via force, I
tend
to
think it's not entirely self-organizing.
Landgull: I
think
the rise of
the nation state has caused people
to
think
that
there are supposed
to be hard lines between ethnicities and cultures.
Landgull: Sure, but given
that we're still in meatspace, one does have
to pick a corner of it, or at least a corner at any given
time.
mircea_popescu: i'll
take ukrainian girls and usian machinery as it used
to be and bid both let me be.
mircea_popescu: Landgull romania is culturally close
to
things
that no longer exist, not have existed for a long
time. romanian is
the closest
thing
to spoken latin still left around.
assbot: Logged on 03-06-2015 05:21:16; decimation:
the idea
that western ukraine exists as a separate race or language is hilarious
BingoBoingo hates Walmart's move
to supercenter's last decade because it cemented scooty puff culture as a mainstream
thing
punkman: I don't know why fat people would buy
that car,
they didn't look comfortable at all.
Landgull: Mircea: out of curiosity, wouldn't Romania be culturally closer
to Ukraine
than
to
the USA? I'm curious which of
the
two you would prefer
to live in (or, for
that matter, if
there's a place
that's better in your mind.)
punkman just saw
two of
the largest landwhales I've seen in a while... in one of
those
tiny Smart cars
assbot: Logged on 03-06-2015 05:16:13; asciilifeform: Landgull: if
they had learned
to manufacture so much as an alarm clock, much less airplane or nuke,
they would be somewhere on
the road
to where 'independence' is
thinkable outside of a lunatic asylum
BingoBoingo: Orcs are always going
to bitch about Elf priviledge
chetty: thin privilege?
thats a parody I hope ...
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You have
to understand since you left 'Murica it has only gotten heavier
mircea_popescu: "Thin privilege is uploading a picture of yourself
that
takes under 1 minute
to render"
BingoBoingo: But on reddit
they are nearly as popular as Bitcoin
to within 2%
BingoBoingo: Imagine
that
though. An actual social justice cause organized on Freenode and B&
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile Los Zetas and
the other non-USG cartel have
their Eric Holder weapons somewhere...
BingoBoingo: From what I've read Sinaloa's fortunes have
taken a
turn for
the worse since
their USG connections at
the
top were revealed
mircea_popescu: much like
the flea market works. cheapest half-and-half
to be had in
the lands, but you won't get any pornstar poon
there.
Landgull: There's not really anywhere safe
to go with assets, including btc,
though it beats most of
the alternatives.
mircea_popescu: so yes it is much cheaper, in
the sense
that if you're cheap it's cheaper and if not it can't be done.
mircea_popescu: the bar
to effectual interdiction can be as low as a dozen armed
trained hands.
assbot: Logged on 03-06-2015 05:10:49; Landgull: Plus, as I said,
the USgov owns
the UAgov, but unlike
the US where
the government really effects your life,
the government here is a mass of incompetent bureaucracy without any serious ability
to organize anything.
Landgull: Sure, but having grown up in
the US,
the buttons
that were implanted in me can still be pushed by
their propaganda.
mircea_popescu: "Orangutans are among
the most forceful of mammals. Bornean orangutans (Pongo pygmaeus) exhibited aggression in almost 90 percent of
their copulations, including when
the females were not resisting. A possible explanation for aggressive behaviors in primates is
that it is a way for males
to
train females
to be afraid of
them and be more likely
to surrender
to future sexual advances."
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> you confuse
two unrelated
things.
thieves do not steal
the brickwork but leave it behind for similar reasons. << And
this is
the warning flag Ferguson is a special failure.
Theives steal
the bricks.
mircea_popescu: arguably
they do
the same
thing, with
the means
their limited intellect allows
them
to
try and employ. or
to quote :
Landgull: The Ukie lot only
try
to steal your stuff,
they don't bother
trying
to rape your mind.
Landgull: But I still prefer people who steal from you because
they're just stealing from you and
they want your stuff
to people who steal for you and ask you
to say it's for your own good.
mircea_popescu: i once knew a guy who deigned
to pick up
the phone half
the
time when desperate hot women were calling
to beg him
to let
them come over for a spell.
Landgull: Sure. And my response is
that I expect
to dry my laundry on a clothesline until fiat is dead.
Landgull: Sure, if
the Ukrainians had anything
to steal,
the government would rapidly begin
to steal it. But right now it's more profitable for
them
to steal from
the USG.
mircea_popescu: but on
tyhe other hand, make
the bricks out of solid gold and see.
mircea_popescu: apparently, it's because
they have very limited ability
to screw with stuff.
mircea_popescu: you confuse
two unrelated
things.
thieves do not steal
the brickwork but leave it behind for similar reasons.
Landgull: Meh - fair point, but I mean
they have very limited ability
to screw with people who are just
trying
to live
their lives.
assbot: Logged on 03-06-2015 04:56:21; Landgull: And
the government is owned by
the US here, but
the government here doesn't have any actual power.
Landgull: Either way, a couple other people have caught onto similar ideas and have gotten pretty far ahead of me by now, but I put in a patent app a while back and with any luck I'll be able
to license
those out when I get done with it.
Landgull: I'd say if you're dating a girl who would allow you
to not go
to something like
that, you're dating
the wrong woman.
mircea_popescu: beware of women affraid
to
travel and fuck strangers.
they make horrible wives.
Landgull: It's for
the best,
the more I've learned about
the "start up community"
the more
they make me want
to gouge out my own eyes.
Landgull: Patents are in
the process. And yeah, it was
the girlfriend - not married yet, but she has his balls just
the same.
Landgull: Heh. Was a startup I was working on, using black soldier fly larvae
to convert organic waste into biodiesel, fish feed, and fertilizer. Actually got it into Startup Chile, but my business partner refused
to go
to Chile and cost me
the grant.
Landgull: I'm just some guy who found
this place a few weeks ago, read
the logs for a while, and decided
that I'd like
to join
the community here, if it'll have me.
Vexual: at least 800k missing, and all
the vexual sundies add app
to an obscenely close number
to
the allwoable sundries
Landgull: As for
the rest: if you're in line at a slaughterhouse, your best move is always
to
try
to get away, even if you risk being shot in
the process. Uncertain success is better
than certain failure, and life in
the US has become so intolerable
that I'd rather
take my chances with an uncertain future
than with a certain one.
mircea_popescu: the us would be infinitely better if instead of "raising awareness"
the impotent
twerps would be busy accepting rape into
their lives.
Vexual: next
time
theyll sitck
to assob, lol
assbot: Logged on 03-06-2015 04:44:55; asciilifeform: Landgull: culture of bending over and quietly
taking arse rape is an improvement ?
Landgull: I wouldn't be in a bitcoin channel if I
thought
that assets a government can
take from you easily were a good idea. XD