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thestringpuller: if it wasn't you another missionary would have done the job.
thestringpuller: adlai: but wouldn't this mean that person had it "within themselves" to be saved in the first place?
thestringpuller: adlai: as danielpbarron said you can't convince someone to be saved
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: saw this on reddit and was surprised "Even 1000 euros feel too much to spent for a much needed new laptop instead of getting some BTC Am I mad?" to which someone replied "And this is why some economists fear Bitcoin -- as expenditures will become more sane. If that laptop made you much more productive, you would still choose to make that purchase rather than saving. But it seems you don't really need that new la
mircea_popescu: adlai you're not belabouring under the misapprehension that i expect all to be saved, are you ? the point is not that. the point is for there to be a way for the scant few who don't belong there to save themselves.
adlai has friends who can't afford to save bitcoin, because they buy useless shit (incl drugs, and music, and fancy food, etc) instead of "paying themselves first"
mircea_popescu: well that's the only fucking end result when illiterate people get involved in "fixing" shit they didn't read.
asciilifeform: also because we don't have computers.
mircea_popescu: i don't need it to answer absolutely. i just need it to reduce by a factor of 10^20 rather than by a factor of maybe 10^3
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-01-2016#1365472 << am i the only guy left that doesn't know who the fuck this was ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-01-2016#1365465 << note that nature has more resources than you, has been trying it for longer than you'll be alive, and STILL hasn't produced organic intelligence. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it should also not be the case that there isn't a trb path between you and miners.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it shouldn't be the case that you're connected exclusively to prb nodes.
thestringpuller: yea prb won't relay high-S due to bip-62
asciilifeform: soooooo turns out prb doesn't like relaying high-S sigs.
assbot: Logged on 10-01-2016 22:26:54; punkman: asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-01-2016#1365440 << RIP chaum << I don't think this was out of character at all
punkman: asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-01-2016#1365440 << RIP chaum << I don't think this was out of character at all ☝︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: Seriously Obeasts are only a hazard to themselves? Does he even consider the pathogens people who can't clean their ass spread everyday as they go about sitting and leaning on public spaces.
pete_dushenski: in other 'how would you know' nyooz, ""Everyone in our pool is making money, because people who aren't making money would not have their machines turned on," BTCC's Lee said."
pete_dushenski: i thought the whole 'maker' thing woulda died when 3d printing didn't put home depot out of business in 12 months flat. guess not eh
mircea_popescu: it'll take you forever to find out it doesn't work, sorta thing.
mircea_popescu: "since 100% of all bitcoin businesses are in b-a and b-a doesn't like it, you know what ? it is useless!11 nothing ever happened!111 blablabl~!111"
BingoBoingo: What you want is a core of people who aren't poor relative to the rest of their USistan region. Once they make the muni-fiber jump the first few years are rough until they get addicted to uptime and buying more cables headed in different directions out of town.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: do you happen to have the link to that classic russian 'chukka' comic handy ? i can't find it in the logs
asciilifeform: you can't, for instance, 'email isis'
BingoBoingo: funkenstein_: Too much selenium is bad though, makes a person stink. Even thiols can't apporach the stink of selenium compounds
assbot: Logged on 06-01-2016 21:57:20; pete_dushenski: girl who leases $500/mo suv couldn't imagine justifying $800 iph0ne, so... bought $300 chinese thing
asciilifeform: monopolies don't 'fail' in the way a corner restaurant might.
pete_dushenski: copypaste: furthermore, how'd you know that i wasn't an acultured asshole before reading trilema ? not that i deny the influence, but that's not entirely the point. the point is... how'd you know ? maybe being "mean" (or however you'd describe mp's style) is a cause of hanging around b-a, and not an effect, y'know ?
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: then other idiots learn that 750k isn't such a bad deal ?
pete_dushenski: doesn't matter where
mircea_popescu: eh that's rank nonsense. "they" have to spend twenty fucking years training to be doing this, and "they" aren't joe blow from the gun fair.
funkenstein_: "You can prevent, totally prevent, cardio myopathy for ten cents a day. And if we don't do it, we are malignant dumb, I like to call it. Malignant dumb if you don't take in ten cents a day of Selenium. It's a waste of your life. It's one of those landmines that you can avoid.
assbot: Dead Doctors Don't Lie by Dr. Joel Wallach ... ( http://bit.ly/1JDBBtT )
pete_dushenski: it was flint that had the lead poisoning wasn't it ?
copypaste: oh right, i forgot that command. i don't chat here often
copypaste: pete_dushenski: you never seem online at an opportune time for me to tell you this. i think that you should develop your own style instead of copying MP's for contravex. contravex is a cheap knockoff at best to trilema. no one can surmount the original, i wouldn't dare even try writing in MP\s signature style.
asciilifeform: we don't actually know, afaik, how to make computers without maggotry.
asciilifeform: but as in mircea_popescu's essay re: 'can't separate industry from maggotry', the era ~prior to that~ looked like univac and there was a market for mebbe 50 of them.
mircea_popescu: that lisp company isn't the only thing to have sunk irrespective of immense tech advantages in the history of computing.
mircea_popescu: i dunno why the muricans don't recognize b's merits. he did the integral expansion which is the actual reason it's even useful.
mircea_popescu: there is something fundamentally wrong with people, intelligent or otherwise, who can't simply come out and say "mp said no, so it can't be done". just like there's something fundamentally wrong with people who can't simply come out and say "i tried pissing upwind and staying dry - it doesn't work".
mircea_popescu: pretending that a) didn't happen and then latter that b) if it happened it didn't matter and then even later that c) they did it anyway by themselves!!1
copypaste: i haven't seen one mention of the miner defection problem anywhere but b-a
mircea_popescu: in fact... "there aren't many of them, and they're supposed to be intelligent" is not unlike saying "this cow doesn't belong in the pen, it gives a lot of milk which is rare". whether it goes in the pen or puts the would-be farmer in the pen strictly depends on how willing to http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=shoot+cop the cow finds itself.
copypaste: there aren't many of them, and they're supposed to be intelligent
copypaste: i understand. thank you guys. i can't believe so called coredevs are supporting something which has such obvious problem as defecting miners dumping all transactions that follow the new rules. wtf.
mircea_popescu: and if anyone imagines the "you wouldn't be willing to hurt innocents" is going to hold worth one stitch, please kindly review the history of accidental payments to bitbet and all that.
thestringpuller: yes. and as I told my mom "We can't have nice things cause there are stupid people who ruin it for everyone", i think bitcoin solves this problem effectively, but must stay ever vigilant
mircea_popescu: i am glad these dudes are here to do the lying so i don't have to, and with that... good riddance.
adlai: miner defection can't steal from people who didn't opt-in, although it causes reorganizations and general headless-chicken-panic
adlai: copypaste: you may want to read https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-December/012014.html as well, it explains possible failure modes for people who don't recognize softforks such as segwit
adlai: copypaste: i don't speak on their behalf, but it's highly doubtful that it'll include such opt-in softforks
BingoBoingo: Because oh, militant opposition groups aren't for the United States. They are only for Countries they CIA plants them in.
pete_dushenski: from mr. reed, who unfortunately doesn't have a comments section with which to correct his lack of 'bahamas' : "I’m going to move to Mexico. I swear I am. Except that I already have. Well, I’m going to move there twice. It’s to get away from Hussein Obama."
ith: pete_dushenski: I am being held prisoner by the Illuminati and can't escape. All day I try to survive relentlous attacks on my mind from my mother, my father and others who speak to me from the apartment downstairs, and manipulate me by directing messages to me (appearing to be speaking to a caller), in the case of my father, from the living room
mircea_popescu: after that didn't happen he had a moment of butthurt, then moved on to dealing in partnering up with usagi and giving away with both hands the few k's of btcs he did somehow collect (at the time btc was like 2 bux) in exchange for ridiculously valued worthless paper,
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-01-2016#1364863 << saif couldn't figure out pgpwin iirc ☝︎
pete_dushenski: thankfully, youtubes pause with the spacebar, so the mouse wasn't needed
saifedean: the most amusingly funny aspect of this is that you folk sound exactly like my economist colleagues dismissing bitcoin... you don't know anything about it, but you can make up enough strawmen and groupthink to feel better about dismissing it
asciilifeform: and aha don't forget to mention their 'favourite' recommendation, 'go live in antarctica'
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron it's a pity they didn't put any copyright notices opn that page. for one thing, copyright doesn't work without a notice, and for the other - someone could steal their muzak!
mircea_popescu: there's nothing wrong with pasta. just don't eat too much of it.
bitstein: mircea_popescu: my problem with "paleo" is it doesn't take itself seriously. paleo people eat so many foods that are only a few thousand years old. just look to their favorite veggies like broccoli, kale, cauliflower... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brassica_oleracea
mircea_popescu: you don't spend enough time with the chicks >1.80 alfie.
bitstein: My molars certainly don't look like those of herbivores.
trinque: bitstein: strange how your teeth don't look much like the teeth of an animal that makes this its business.
asciilifeform: isn't this how polar explorers contracted protein poisoning?
saifedean: yeah it really isn't just me who's into all this weirdness :D
mircea_popescu: fucking village, doesn't even have a tiny and cramped bdsm club
saifedean: daniel, i didn't know that, might pop across the border next time I'm in NYC to see what it's like
danielpbarron: i haven't tried to keep it out of the fridge, but it seems to age more gracefully in general
mircea_popescu: it doesn't keep unrefrigerated, does it.
mircea_popescu: dude... cows, ok, i can see, they don't grow everywhere.
saifedean: look, i'd love to try good raw milk, and if you can hook a brother up, let me know... but, you know, it ain't the be all end all of human knowledge
saifedean: unfortunately those people don't write, but fortunately, some people who do write have studied them... like weston price
mircea_popescu: for another... what the fuck, i didn't grow up in a hole.
mircea_popescu: and i certainly aren't about to read some anglo derps on how and what to eat.
saifedean: i ain't even lebanonesian, bro. I'm actually palestinian
saifedean: i've never had raw milk, don't know a source i can trust in lebanon, and it's illegal to buy it here in Ontario!
saifedean: can't remember the post, but it stuck with me and has saved me plenty of time by always ignoring arguments from people hostile to things they don't know... mainly bitcoin and health, funnily enough
saifedean: weren't you the one who wrote a post about how dumb it is to be hostile to things you do not know about?
mircea_popescu: they do a lot of diary in lebanon don't they ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, all these nitwits that aren't from cattle country don't know wtf milk is, even.
saifedean: and they can't pay them if they deviate from the script...
saifedean: appreciate the faith in your clinician, but don't listen to those guys if you're having a child of your own, they're not in it for your benefit, they have med school loans to pay
mircea_popescu: looky, i appreciate the youthful activist and half-doctor approach, but srsly, talk to an actual clinician. it doesn't always work. it sucks that it doesn't, it's maybe overreported, it's often just fancies in the woman's head, but not always. sometimes it dun work.
saifedean: she's got to actively fuck it up for her to not breastfeed... look at all real world examples, and you find a woman who ate shit, or who had a caesarian and didn't bother try breastfeeding for a few days, or as is usually the case, a woman who just can't be bothered and came up wiht a story
saifedean: if you can get your dick up, you can fuck with it. Doesn't mean you will... you could still fuck it up.
mircea_popescu: there can't be enough fucking ambulances.
saifedean: "you don't wanna take chances with your baby's health"
saifedean: they'll whisk her in an ambulance and freak the shit out of her, causing her vagina to contract just when it needs to expand. this then necessitates painful pushing, which usually doesn't work, necessitating cutting up and stitching, the baby comes out bloody and bruised and the woman can't breastfeed for hours, which will then destroy the baby's ability to latch properly
mircea_popescu: and the internet has ruined people's idea of what makes good storytelling. don't summarize, be specific.
ben_vulpes: trinque: build/Makefile:16 `tar xvf' -> `tar xvzf` << any reason i shouldn't do this?
assbot: agritheia comments on What was your 'I don't get paid enough for this shit' moment? ... ( http://bit.ly/1kWcM0N )
BingoBoingo: Can't expect retail expert to be history expert
BingoBoingo: Can't you plug it into the computer?
mircea_popescu: yeah, that's the dilemma, isn't it : either die of ulcer like naggum or try and supress the nausea of being still alive with these schmucks all around like graham.
mircea_popescu: srsly, professional transcriptomonkey doesn't know what a principal is ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> guy can't spell ;/ << transcriptionist couldn't spell.