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decimation: asciilifeform: he predicts
the roomba by a few decades :)
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The20YearIRCloud: Granted, i guess if you wanted a $10k+
threshhold it'd make sense
to up it
to 50btc due
to all
the recent slides
The20YearIRCloud: Exchanges with less regulation an requirements (mostly)
than even OTC
The20YearIRCloud: Yeah , crowdexchanges here in
the US now
that
the SEC has finally got off
their butt and allowed small companies
to list on new exchanges.
The20YearIRCloud: Quite a bit more
than
the
title 4 exchanges I've been
talking
to in
the US
The20YearIRCloud: So I miss anything interesting or fun with mpex in
the past 2-3 months?
WolfGoethe: some fool locking up my coins with bogus
trades. what fool wants
to deposit cash
to
the bank... at midnight???
punkman: "Justus Ranvier has one of
the more interesting opinions on
the bitcoin blockchain
that doesn’t seem
to get much attention. In his view,
there is no need for
the block size limit
to exist at all."
cazalla: referredbyloper, you
think i'm funny, i amuse you?
trinque: and how long does it
take
to register anywya
referredbyloper: trading most of
the day, an find
this channel realy amusing
trinque: yep guy's clearly
trying
to make it look so
cazalla: ah ok, i assumed it might be someone coming here from asciilifeform's site in
the same manner qntra directs people here
trinque: cazalla: pretty sure
that's a bot which only spams one link
trinque: it would not blow my mind if
there are session hijacking hax
to be found within, so on
trinque: WS just bolt another huge attack surface
to
the
thing
trinque: williamdunne: and
to elaborate on
the reason why,
the browser was a nightmarish wad of complexity before WS
trinque: that said I've used websockets;
the whole browser's shit, subset of which WS are shit
trinque: williamdunne: I don't even mean
that, just
that polling might not look much different load-wise from
the WS doing its
thing
trinque: "keep-alive" is
the
thing
to look into
there
trinque: so
the ajax vs ws
thing may be more similar
than it appears
trinque: browsers can pipeline requests
through
the same connection
trinque: there are other
things
to consider
williamdunne: Very
true, but anything where
the data is somewhat frequent I reckon would be better off in WS
trinque: and can hand
them off
to some backend nicely
trinque: I
think nginx does pretty well handling a bunch of idle websocket connections
trinque: so you would have
to actually
try both and see based on your own situation which is more expensive
trinque: on
the ajax side, you may have
tons of unnecessary polling
trinque: on
the one hand, anyone with
the site open in a
tab is going
to be a connection your server will have open
williamdunne: Overhead vs
the AJAX method? I'd bet otherwise
williamdunne: But if
there were best happening more
than every second, sure
that'd be a great feature
to see
trinque: so adding a bunch of persistent connections is going
to increase overhead
trinque: oh, you wanted bitbet
to provide a websocket?
williamdunne: Streaming basic pricing data, and submitting/receiving bets are
the
two I have used it for
trinque: williamdunne: what do you want
to do with it?
williamdunne: Would
there be any particular benefit
to
that in its intended usage? JSON/MsgPack/whatever all work fine with anything I can imagine being necessary on
the web
☟︎ trinque: apparently in some newer version of
the standard it has a binary streaming
thing
trinque: I mean
to be specific it's a wrapper around a socket with certain assumptions on how it'll be used; it doesn't just give you a raw unix socket and say "go at it"
trinque: (maybe I'm wrong? don't
think so)
trinque: first off
the
thing's not a socket; iirc it
throws you wads o' data piecemeal
trinque: and on
the other
there's considering
the entire stack
that got you
to
that point, and whether
that made any sense
trinque: williamdunne: on
the one hand
there's a superficial "did I make it do something, and did it 'work'"
☟︎ williamdunne: While with
that description it does sound a bit
tarded, in practise I've found
them
to work very well
decimation: the shortcomings of
turning a fundamentally broadcast
technology into a 'virtual channel'
decimation: williamdunne: websockets are 'tardation on
top of
tardation
decimation: it would be nice
to click on '3' and call up all
the moduli which are factored by '3'
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah
that sounds like a good idea
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Oh wait I
take it back,
thats me derping. Message comes up blank
cazalla: williamdunne cut
the foreplay and just ask
williamdunne: Isn't
that
the point of WebSockets, getting rid of derpy polling?
williamdunne: Anyhow, what in particular is wrong with it? While
there is a host of derpy
technologies I'm quite fond of some
things - like WebSockets
williamdunne: Re: polling, what would you suggest as
the alternative? Websockets?
williamdunne: With Scoop I worked out a structure
that fixes some of
the issues
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform>
thing is, it is actually possible for
the same phuctor url
to be new
twice. << it'll be fine im sure.
assbot: luke-jr comments on Call me inconsiderate, but
THIS is why I don't
take Luke-Jr seriously: He lost
the majority of his coins on Mt. Gox when
there were signs FOR MONTHS
to NOT keep coins
there. He lacks
the ability
to properly gauge situations and look into
the future. ... (
http://bit.ly/1Jxr94n )
williamdunne: Fair enough,
think he'll do fine. Fits in quite well with his existing logic
williamdunne: Well
then why does
this matter? Scoop shares it once and you see both
williamdunne: This is not a problem, so long as something changes between first seen and
the update
williamdunne: In
this case I may have
to make a custom set of rules for Phuctor
williamdunne: Uses a persisted Map of URLs
to objects. Messages when he sees a new one
kakobrekla: as far as i can
tell dates are incorrect but
the order is correct in your feed ?
thats workable. perhaps scoop can cover it. i can
too.
jurov: asciilifeform: you mean bot reading rss feed? we have
that.
mircea_popescu: for
the record, my ftp problem was
that someone had
the bright idea of allowing port 21, but not port 20.
cazalla: jurov problem with what i'm doing or
the client? not sure what else i can do here now
mircea_popescu: <cazalla> crystalspace3d.org is slow as fuck
to get cs-win32libs-2.1_003.exe from btw << link ? jurov can
then mirror it along with everything else.