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mircea_popescu: you have to "interpret" and "read it with feeling" and" this isn't what liszt meant" and bla bla.
adlai: there's no a-priori reason why fork proponents can't stake their reputation on pgp-signed contracts to buy up their alt after it's launch... reminscent of the $20 XPY floor ☟︎
adlai: psztorc: the problem with basing this rather-necessary tool on TC/HM is that the latter doesn't exist yet...
adlai: mircea_popescu doesn't own woodcoin, either.
adlai: ascii_butugychag: you can run bitcoind and forkcoind, and automate https://github.com/TierNolan/bips/blob/bip4x/bip-atom.mediawiki between them... if only anybody wrote the glue for this. for some reason I thought psztorc was working on this, but can't find the github repo
adlai: "hard limit" = MAX_BLOCK_SIZE === "I don't accept a block larger than X", soft limit = relevant only for miners === "I produce blocks up to X"
adlai: thestringpuller: compare to shakuhachi tradition, where a song isn't "yours" until you've a) tweaked out your own version, and b) taught it to your students
thestringpuller: it wasn't until someone was bored enough to write the thing down that you got Fake Books and stuff of the "American Song Book"
mircea_popescu: "the lord doesn't know of you"
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2016 13:58:38; mircea_popescu: i have absolutely no idea what these bundy dudes must be thinking to elevate the usg charade into relevancy through participating. but then again... can't trust one to think that's not got a pubkey, can you.
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2016 13:32:43; mircea_popescu: "f course, a full charge won't be that important most days," << god fucking help them once memory effects and other such things start taking a toll. the full prospect should read " As previously announced, the Bolt's 288 cells will be able to go over 200 miles on a full charge about 20 or so times. Good fucking luck with your new disposable car!"
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2016 13:33:54; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-01-2016#1367845 << i don't hate the unicode folk. i hate the notion that we'd include all this in the first place. once we decide "we need it", i'd actually prefer unicode to any adhoc herpderping.
mircea_popescu: i have absolutely no idea what these bundy dudes must be thinking to elevate the usg charade into relevancy through participating. but then again... can't trust one to think that's not got a pubkey, can you. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2016 06:18:05; ben_vulpes: my personal phone goal is an engineering team that is on call so that i don't have to have a phone
mircea_popescu: "i know... we'll offshore everything to china and live off a '''service economy'''. then we won't bother getting off the couch. win-win!"
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2016 06:02:19; pete_dushenski: some fat needs to be trimmed around here, whether that idjits going back to wherever the fuck they came from (ftr no one is "from" alberta) or they can learn that business isn't this thing where money and clients rain down from the sky and it's all you can do to beat them back at the door
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-01-2016#1367845 << i don't hate the unicode folk. i hate the notion that we'd include all this in the first place. once we decide "we need it", i'd actually prefer unicode to any adhoc herpderping. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: but hey, it ain't fraud if usg does it, right ?
mircea_popescu: "f course, a full charge won't be that important most days," << god fucking help them once memory effects and other such things start taking a toll. the full prospect should read " As previously announced, the Bolt's 288 cells will be able to go over 200 miles on a full charge about 20 or so times. Good fucking luck with your new disposable car!" ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2016 05:28:22; trinque: why create syntactic barriers to understanding when you can just kill the folks you don't want in your math club, anyway
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-01-2016#1367833 << i can't discern which side you're taking. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: even if symbols don't.
asciilifeform: i wouldn't buy an ascii-art edition of feynman.
mircea_popescu: he did, yes, but i won't count it because at his time (40s) he had no other options.
mircea_popescu: the difference between a thinking man and a hack is that a hack goes "hey, i can't explain this without a blackboard"
mircea_popescu: don't idly suppose you're better than the greeks just because you have more maggots eating more cans of spam.
BingoBoingo: Tomiii: Well, the general downsides of ECC. At least in Bitcoin the public key isn't even public unless an address has spent a transaction.
danielpbarron: "If it's worth upgrading, it wasn't worth using in the first place." (TM)
BingoBoingo: Generating GPG keys that don't suck is hard because RSA encryption is decrypted by division. Too easy to divide, falls. ECDSA in Bitcoin gets more breathing room for now because not as straight forward.
BingoBoingo: <mats> i don't get it, why another instruction << Because Intel
ben_vulpes: my personal phone goal is an engineering team that is on call so that i don't have to have a phone ☟︎
mats: i don't get it, why another instruction
ben_vulpes: but i don't have a comment section, won't.
pete_dushenski: some fat needs to be trimmed around here, whether that idjits going back to wherever the fuck they came from (ftr no one is "from" alberta) or they can learn that business isn't this thing where money and clients rain down from the sky and it's all you can do to beat them back at the door ☟︎
pete_dushenski: though in all seriousness, if the dumb bitches pretending to be 'drop-in daycares' and 'nannies' don't start returning phone calls and text in a timely manner, IF AT ALL, i'm a seriously cut their useless lives short.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: the kid knows his ashtanga from his saatva and not a lot besides. trudeau's as innocent as a butterfly, which is why chix dig him and dudes couldn't care less. he's nowhere near as much of a strong retard as the commie premier cunt running alberta for the next 3.5 years
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: at least i don't live under clitler (if still natoreich)
pete_dushenski: "GM has put a 60-kWh lithium-ion battery that weighs just just 960 pounds into the floor of the Bolt. As previously announced, the Bolt's 288 cells will be able to go over 200 miles on a full charge. That full charge takes nine hours on a Level 2 EVSE thanks to the onboard 7.2-kW charger. Of course, a full charge won't be that important most days, which is why GM says that you can get 50 miles of range in "less
trinque: why create syntactic barriers to understanding when you can just kill the folks you don't want in your math club, anyway ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: the computer ain't working any better because it "knows" supposedly that ∀. and neither is anything else.
mircea_popescu: it didn't work.
phf: bringing this into char discussion makes no sense whatsoever because spec explicitly says you can't
phf: you can't make any statements about chars using eq. eq is a special beast used to test ~von neumann~ identity. and all the comments in the spec are related to that. sometimes (eq 1 1) but (eq 123123 123123) is not
asciilifeform: phf: apparently you don't greek enough...
mircea_popescu: apparently we just think we don't.
asciilifeform: which is why we don't
mircea_popescu: i don't see why you think this answer is not retarded.
asciilifeform: i don't see how.
mircea_popescu: isn't this contrary to everything you been saying to date ?
mircea_popescu: while the idea that "letters aren't numbers, sit down" is sound,
asciilifeform: whose lisps didn't even run on a real graphical console
asciilifeform: in a way that doesn't leave the crud exchanges simply going to a pit to die
phf: the only redeeming quality in this case, that there aren't better standards available, except for maybe Ada (i've not looked). you end up with trade offs, or hard constraints that make the result non-portable. a positive aspect of cl standard is that you get reasonably similar behavior on very wide range of hardware, but i agree that things could always be better
mircea_popescu: and no, i won't be looking for the beatles records past the why records.
mircea_popescu: the fucking point of having an alphabet is that no, it couldn't move.
mircea_popescu: they aren't ordered ? so "a" > "b" returns undefined ?
mircea_popescu: but it isn't.
mircea_popescu: this doesn't make you lol ?
mircea_popescu: well now ima gonna have to search won't i ;/
mircea_popescu: the secret to winning the war isn't to make the other motherfucker die for his country. it's to discourage this motherfucking from thinking he can walk up the wall.
mircea_popescu: you can't finite the infinite arbitrarily.
asciilifeform: y'know, just because you force the 8th bit of every bt to 0 doesn't make it 'human-readable'
mod6: I guess this does actually effect us a bit -- i mean, lets say we wanna do some math modeling or expound upon some properties of something fourier whatever, and send it to the ML... now you gotta have it in ascii otherwise you can't sign it.
asciilifeform: there is always chunks we haven't any shorthand for, yes
mircea_popescu: i couldn't care less you use sigma or the integral. what matters is the foreword
mod6: i dunno? sig = [T(e1)T(e2)T(e3)]
mod6: and then when it doesn't there's alway some short hand one could do without resorting to unicode or PS.
mircea_popescu: no fucking way, this isn't how derive worked!!11
asciilifeform: that doesn't make user want to eat his pistol ?
asciilifeform: (vs a kid asked to prove that he hadn't cribbed.)
mircea_popescu: i don't see this emerging other than by piecemeal correction, honestly.
mircea_popescu: my brain doesn't work by thje eyefull iom not a fucking toad omfg
asciilifeform: it isn't about magical force of squiggle, but elementarily FITTING A THING ON A PAGE that would not otherwise fit in one eyeful.
mircea_popescu: i don't remember any of it. nobody does, people who wrote it included.
mircea_popescu: if i see void alfun (1, 2, 3, 4 .. 26); ima think you can't code.
asciilifeform can't wait for a map of washington made in pyongyang
mircea_popescu: yeah hey bb weren't you in 1btc ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it won't show up in the log as a distinct thing
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I haven't seen any other commands in debug.log yet. Perhaps leave a comment on post?
mircea_popescu: no but you don't understand, they're only trying to.
mircea_popescu: mit ain't routing anyone. ever.
guruvan: well...that's just gonna mean they don't like you :-
BingoBoingo: <jurov> gpl stuff can't be in appstore, rly? << Ya Rly
jurov: gpl stuff can't be in appstore, rly?
thestringpuller: the dude who had to move to tokyo cause US wouldn't let him visit?
thestringpuller: i didn't know it was news cuz coinbase.
mircea_popescu: know anyon who doesn't ? etc.
mircea_popescu: well it isn't anything, so far.
mircea_popescu: which by now is so pervasive even ged-educated nigger in the ghetto knows enough to scream "you don't know what it's like"
mircea_popescu: the only reason she exists is the perhaps well intended, but also castrated inclination of educated males to go "oh, i wonder what the hyeroglypsh mean, can't be discarded out of hand"
mircea_popescu: i don't think the postmodern symbological deluge has any sort of match or point of comparison.
ascii_butugychag: and i notice they aren't abusing integral signs
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 18:45:40; phf: i've spent most of my college years learning math by sometimes translating problem into sexp and running it inside lisp, to get a hang of the numeric or combinatoric behavior of the problem. there were parts of the problem that were easier to grok in sexp and then there were parts that i eventually wrote an approximation of latex formula reader for. i don't really have a clear idea of where the boundry is thoug
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 18:33:28; mircea_popescu: yes you can figure out what quarks do in either matriceal or formulaic form. but if you can't afterwards SAY what the fuck you found to either heisenberg or schroedinger, the problem's in your head.
phf: my impression of traditional education is that when everything doesn't fit in your head, you continue cramming it, until in the flash of insight, a way of restructuring the tree comes to you. in this case notation allows for a caching mechanism. somewhere on a blackboard there's a cluster of meaning, that you no longer have in your head, because head is full, so having that cluster contain higher density of information allows for a more
mircea_popescu: i ain't building no cities to read anything, ever.
phf: i've spent most of my college years learning math by sometimes translating problem into sexp and running it inside lisp, to get a hang of the numeric or combinatoric behavior of the problem. there were parts of the problem that were easier to grok in sexp and then there were parts that i eventually wrote an approximation of latex formula reader for. i don't really have a clear idea of where the boundry is though ☟︎
mircea_popescu: yes you can figure out what quarks do in either matriceal or formulaic form. but if you can't afterwards SAY what the fuck you found to either heisenberg or schroedinger, the problem's in your head. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: now : i do not propose that this is either better, or obligatory for anyone else. whoever can fuck whatever bottle they most like. but i also can't let stand this theory that somehow obscurantist claptrap is the only way to think.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu doesn't do mathematics, this is evident. perhaps he did at one point, but not now.