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nubbins`: not in this sense
mircea_popescu: do i work in tech ?
mircea_popescu: i don't work in tech.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu the majority of people on irc who don't work in tech are generally on some form of social assistance ☟︎
nubbins`: just one tenant now
mircea_popescu: wut welfare is that.
mircea_popescu: weren't you derping about having tenants ?
nubbins` imagines that most of the lurkers in here assume he's on welfare
mircea_popescu: (women, contrary to what they project, would biologically prefer the smaller imposition)
asciilifeform: lol, how did it go... 'paul graham: programmers, like painters, like making things. audience wag: so do chickens!'
mircea_popescu: also why they dislike small penii
nubbins`: i do, incidentally, like the smell of ink, but only water-based acrylic
nubbins`: actually, i print because there's a very basic yet powerful reinforcement in holding something of beauty that you've created with your own hands.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: carefree l0l. so nubbins` prints because he likes the smell of ink ?
assbot: Logged on 11-06-2015 12:18:37; nubbins`: i've been trying to sell a single bitcoin in -otc for three days
nubbins`: mats i live the life of the carefree boheme, as alf would put it
mircea_popescu: mats no, actually, that's when you know you're poor.
asciilifeform: (there are nominally others but outside of usg you will never see them)
assbot: Logged on 11-06-2015 14:13:10; nubbins`: but i was set to gain either way
assbot: Let's understand mutual betting together on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUXaOp )
asciilifeform: mats: it is, in practice, the last remaining commercial unix
allahisgreat2000: thank you i'll read that
nubbins`: tying up 5 btc for 6 months to earn 0.7 isn't particularly lucrative; if i were to do it again, i'd do a shorter bet
mats: asciilifeform: OSX has so many skeletons, from NeXT, Mach, and the PPC days...
nubbins`: but i was set to gain either way ☟︎
assbot: Let's understand mutual betting together on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUWWGP )
nubbins`: mircea_popescu it took me about a week to figure out the nuts & bolts of it.
asciilifeform: what kind of dope it was necessary to smoke, to arrive at this notion, i still do not know.
asciilifeform: on a machine with von neumann arch, and even things like dma, no less
asciilifeform: mats: can you believe, they took seriously the idea that process separation (which barely works in 'userland') could apply to device drivers!
allahisgreat2000: I'm trying to figure out if there could be a system to combine pool betting and livebetting/betting exchange
nubbins`: note how the weight is lower for each successive bet
nubbins`: allahisgreat2000: the earlier 5 BTC bet won ~0.7 BTC
allahisgreat2000: the weight depends on time?
nubbins`: had to monetize that warrant somehow
nubbins`: because the weight was so low
mircea_popescu: lol is that you nubbins` ?
nubbins`: that last bet put 8 BTC on the line, but only earned 0.2 BTC
nubbins`: a last-minute bet will take some of your winnings, yes, but they'd have to bet an enormous amount and get chump change in return
nubbins`: allahisgreat2000: early bets have higher weight and are therefore worth more.
allahisgreat2000: but you get lower returns as well, even tho you bet early?
asciilifeform: mats: aha, 'microkernel', academitardia circa late '80s-early-'90s that apple folks still live with today.
nubbins`: allahisgreat2000: generally the weight will decrease as the bet gets closer to close.
mircea_popescu: allahisgreat2000 they get lower weight for betting later.
allahisgreat2000: what stops people from betting more when the results start getting obvious and ruining your bet?
assbot: Reaching the MACH layer · blog[wuntee] ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUW3xW )
nubbins`: asciilifeform language in general suffers from loss of reading mechanisms over time
allahisgreat2000: I'm having trouble figuring out how weight for a bet is calculated
asciilifeform: shakespeare suffers from the other problem of backups, much lamented by astronomy/physics folk crying over old pdp-8 tapes. that is, loss of reading mechanisms...)
mircea_popescu: "we don't ban ideas, we just ban anything that's unbowlder, for bowlder is us"
nubbins`: i learned recently that shakespeare invented the name "jessica"
mircea_popescu: we now nothing of proper shakespeare, for this reason.
asciilifeform: what would we know of proper shakespeare then
mircea_popescu: if tomorrow i rewrite it about cocks everyone'll know
mircea_popescu: right. worked splendidly for the literary cannon
asciilifeform: the only backup worth mention appears to be herr torvalds's 'put it on public ftp and have people give a damn and mirror'
nubbins`: asciilifeform no, but that's sage
nubbins`: it's "magneto-optical" so i'd say fairly transient
asciilifeform: nubbins`: recall mircea_popescu's observation that 'backup is a process not an artifact' ?
mircea_popescu: fuck you then.
mircea_popescu: you can only has the things you choose.
nubbins`: they use the phrase "engraved in stone" a few times
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you could make them out of plain glass.
nubbins`: "up to" 1000 years
assbot: What is M-Disc™? - The M-DISC™ ... ( http://bit.ly/1B5gvRk )
asciilifeform: the '1000 years' thing is utter bunk
asciilifeform: it is subject to cracking, and chemical reaction with atmosphere over time
asciilifeform: but above the dye (or gold) is still plexiglas
asciilifeform: in very spiffy disks (taiyo yuden, afaik, is the -only- remaining maker) it is gold, instead.
asciilifeform: this layer is typically a dye
asciilifeform: nubbins`: today, as 10 yrs ago, the basic tech is same. reflective layer, and above it, something that melts
nubbins`: from what i can glean from marketing hype, they use special dvd-rs and ramp up the laser strength to make "permanent" optical media
nubbins`: any of you familiar with this "M-DISC" technology?
nubbins`: but i suppose i should wait and see if that's a necessary thing first.
nubbins`: altho i'm somewhat tempted to put my SSD in this disc duplicator instead
asciilifeform: (pogo itself used to come with 256, otherwise identical)
nubbins`: good thing i stocked up :(
asciilifeform: on any of them.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: mno. they don't overengineer them any more
nubbins`: until the next time some shit cloud device get liquidated
asciilifeform will be disappointed if they fly away. because there is not likely to be a reasonable substitute.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's scheduled for after the build's ready to go.
asciilifeform: are they still there ?
asciilifeform: speaking of - when's the last time anyone checked on the warehouse-full-of-pogos thing
asciilifeform not so sure of this
mircea_popescu: ‘There is no right not to be offended’ << this is broken, ftr. "there is no right TO not be offended"
asciilifeform wonders of which there are more - pogos, or msdos-able boxes
nubbins`: i'm still working on porting 0.5.3.1 to IBM i
asciilifeform: well that was why -i- didn't do it
mircea_popescu: you don't get to start more stuff.
assbot: Logged on 11-06-2015 01:20:23; mircea_popescu: alternatively we could just leave this be for now and focus on CLOSING things rather than opening new things before we closed anything.
mircea_popescu: yes. yes there was.
asciilifeform: (how tcp? over slip/rs232, of course)
asciilifeform: was there a reason we didn't do this ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: were you the one who proposed an msdos port of bitcoind ?
assbot: Theory | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUSEPG )
asciilifeform: nubbins`: as for what it is doing, this fits in a paragraph - http://nosuchlabs.com/theory
nubbins` has laughably little hands-on experience with the nuts & bolts of this math
nubbins`: one of these days i'mma read up on exactly wtf phuctor is doing
nubbins`: quote in title from salman rushdie