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mircea_popescu: in other news, a
turducken walks into
the counsellor's office
cazalla: mircea_popescu, nice body but
that face :\
ascii_field: e.g., just about everyone at
this point went
to first grade and would spit on a claimed perpetuum mobile, but if you ask'em
to invest in 'miraculous' protein fold solver - different matter
assbot: Logged on 12-06-2015 17:28:01; fluffypony: nah,
that's for cazalla's benefit ;)
ascii_field: decimation: what
the more clever hucksters are doing is
to search for 'undergrazed' scams
mod6: trinque and I
tried
to get my
thing
to work from grub> for hours one night, perhaps a few different
times. if it was simple, we'd have resolved it. it's probably my dumb POS box.
decimation: ascii_field: if people could actually protein fold
their way
to cures it would have been done already
trinque: config's only running commands against
that
trinque: jurov: yeah and you had it earlier; you can easily load a kernel from
that
ascii_field: decimation: it is 10x as funny
to be because i actually worked in pharma, doing precisely what
the sc4mz0rz are claiming
to do
mircea_popescu: copypaste you seriously want
to open yet another dig ?
decimation: "What a system like Atomwise actually does can be pretty opaque
to a general audience."
mircea_popescu: "Days earlier Imgur had begun purging images hosted on
their site which had been linked
to on /r/fatpeople hate."
trinque never
throws away a "known good" anything once had
trinque: I refuse
to accept
that
that's even a
thing.
jurov: trinque: will it be capable
to resolve boxen suddenly refusing
to boot?
trinque started in data centers derping out OSs
to boxen
trinque: I'm gonna have
to finish my genbootstrap script before you guys accept gentoo can be installed, I can see.
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that way
mircea_popescu gazes upon
the cvasi=monotonic s.mpoe evolution past few weeks.... nuts.
ascii_field: i'd love
to
teach a platoon of #b-a folks
to do what i do, either/or
to become less killworthy or (more practically)
to be replaced more quickly when finally killed.
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> and ~perhaps~ he can build another, if asked nicely << if you want
to get killed, splendid way
to go about
things.
ascii_field: mod6: it
theoretically ought
to work elsewhere. but it
turned out
that other linuxen ship with defective gcc.
mircea_popescu: mod6 well, he created it SOMEHOW. im not sure how far
that preferred way goes, people get
to drive a car
their preferred way
to ~some degree~.
mod6: isn't buildroot
the
thing
that alf said must be used inside of gentoo?
decimation: but ascii has a point,
this wouldn't work if everyone does not have
the same hardware
mod6: I'm just
trying
to figure out how
to get some comprehensive steps so just about anyone who wants
to can use our gentoo
thingy.
trinque: if
the livecd loads, if your own box doesn't, you fucked up.
trinque: none of
this applies
to booting
the
thing
mod6: are we
talking about
two different
things here? let's leave
the R.I. out of it for a minute. my assumption
there is someone can indeed create a "buildroot" or w/e
to
then cross compile
to whatever
they want for
the R.I.
decimation: it's
true you would need a highly restricted hardware list
ascii_field: mod6: you can set yours
to x86, or sparc, or whatever
mod6: <+decimation> why not make a 'buildroot'
that
targets 32-bit x86? << for
the R.I. itself or gentoo?
ascii_field: decimation: because
they are no longer readily available ?
trinque: anyhow I've given my opinion on how
this ought
to be done.
decimation: why not make a 'buildroot'
that
targets 32-bit x86?
ascii_field: mod6:
the whole 'pc compatible platform'
thing kinda fell apart
mod6: trinque: with
the image, don't we run into issues with hardware other
than x86_64?
trinque: livecd boots, starts bash script whose only purpose is
to be
told which drive
to obliterate with a standard base image
trinque: complete with various "oh you want
to encrypt /home ?" and so on
trinque: that
thing's only purpose could be
to dump you into a booted gentoo which you
then follow instructions
to configure
trinque: mod6: if you use
the disk image approach
the livecd story becomes very simple
decimation: this card I linked is probably
the closest 'industry' has
ascii_field: mod6: we ~did~ build own linux for
the r.i.
mod6: ok. cool. I'll give it a
try.
trinque: mod6: sounds like livecd plus a finished version of my script
there
mod6: i mean, we're basically
trying
to build our own linux here specifically for
the R.I.
mod6: <+trinque> mod6: what's
the desired result, you pop a livecd in and it installs as well as openbsd or debian does? << well, something like
that. you pop-in LiveCD, follow
The Foundation's ``Guide''
through
the chroot process, using hardened uclibc, whatever packages we
think are required
to build
the R.I.
ascii_field: decimation: gotta love
the 'full data sheet' without ANY programming info
mod6: so, anyway, i dunno. i guess
that's just where I'm at. I'll keep working
towards getting something going for myself. go from
there I guess.
trinque: mod6: what's
the desired result, you pop a livecd in and it installs as well as openbsd or debian does?
ascii_field: decimation: very
tediously, and at great expense.
decimation: ascii_field: honestly if you want
this product you are probably going
to need
to build yourself
mod6: my problem here, is ok, let's say
that i get
this far and
then
trinque generiously helps me get
the rest of
the way
to it "working". but what about everyone else?
trinque: it wont reproduce my local set-up, but it sounds like
the bar is merely "get a uclibc build env for bitcoind"
trinque: that should at least clear
the grub hurdle
decimation: yeah but generally if it is itar controlled, nobody makes except maybe for golden
toilet price
mod6: i guess i didn't realize
that gentoo =~ particle accelerator haha
decimation: ascii it is quite possible
that oscopes with
this kind of capability are considered itar controlled
ascii_field: but notice
there is no how-to book, 'build church organ in 21 days'
ascii_field: what
this means, in practice, is
that a reasonable ( i won't say 'sane' because
these do not exist presently ) computer system is not a machine, but a ~place~ - like a church organ
mod6: well, im afraid of
that
too. so what
to do
then? i hope I haven't just been wasting my
time
then.
ascii_field: mod6: ...working set of instructions
that allow a person
to construct gentoo in our preferred way << i suspect
that
this is a nonstarter on account of
the unavailability of sane hardware. see
the
thread where mircea_popescu installed gentoo and
then
threw it off a cliff
mod6: <+trinque> mircea_popescu: built him a bootable image of gentoo in about an hour last weekend << yup,
this is
true. and I haven't been able
to
try it out yet. i'm planning on
trying out
the steps
that he deed'd
tomorrow.
the image is great, but
the goal is
to get
to a working set of instructions
that allow a person
to construct gentoo in our preferred way. so even if
the image works, im not sure
this is something
to be used for anything else. he
ascii_field: one sometimes wishes
to capture fast signals, e.g., pci bus.
mircea_popescu: do half, one and a half,
three, whatever's normally done.
ascii_field: but in
this story i was not speaking of cardano
mircea_popescu: my question
to you is, why must it be checked at higher frequency
than what we use.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu:
the digital half is easier, given as most of
the action
takes place on
the micro
decimation: if
the indian
tester fucked up
the chip for your application, sucks for you
ascii_field: most likely don't even own a
thesaurus, but simply read neal stephenson's novel 'diamond age.'
mircea_popescu: i like it when people doing digital bullshit speak of "bespoke". yeah,
totally, it means something OTHER
than "we want
to be paid 10x what our shit's worth on
the open market for no other reason
than we feel so special and we got a bookmarked link
to a
thesaurus website"
mircea_popescu: looky,
there's no argument here, i can follow what you're saying.
this
thing is not hard
to make, is a requisite, should exist but does not. definitely it's a niche.
ascii_field: it was from a lack of precisely
this simple
tool.
ascii_field: probably ought
to explain. see all of
those instruments
that were never reverse-engineered adequately ?