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assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 15:14:35; pete_dushenski:
turns out
that when you spill
the beans
to a piece of paper in a drawer, someone can go in and read
that piece of paper !
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 15:13:45; pete_dushenski: ""It's kind of scary
that somebody could know
that much about us," said a former senior U.S. diplomat, pointing out
the ability
to use such data
to impersonate an American official online, obtain passwords and plunder bank accounts."
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 09:39:44; cazalla: i had another sober weekend so half way
there
to a sober month of June
mircea_popescu: so basically... a lot of "different people" who are actually all
the same guy compose a community which spent years accusing me of being hanbot ?
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 04:33:18; funkenstein_:
trinque, indeed. sounds like a small statement but you have just affirmed something big methinks
mircea_popescu: mno, more like, "well... you are aware
the alternative would have been being eaten by cannibals right ???"
trinque: "Hm... alright bring in
the next one!"
trinque: "where
there's a will
there's a way" ?
mircea_popescu: usually it's resolved with "if you ever do
this again im going
to beat you with a wet dulap"
mircea_popescu: i run into
this question a lot. "just stop" "how ?" "by not doing it" "but i don't know how!!1"
trinque: eh
they can in aggregate, just don't know it
decimation: asciilifeform: what's
the alternative? gentle bandits? usg with 'reform'?
trinque: biggest contribution
to choosing a state most people can make is saying "nope, not
this one"
mircea_popescu: "would you like
the beatings here or
to be run over by a bus ???"
mircea_popescu: as such it is misstated, in
the manner owners of slavegirls misstate
the world
to
the slavegirls.
decimation: or 'post-monarchial non-state' as
the case may be
mircea_popescu: the junkie with fifty pounds of pure heroin stashed away isn't going out in
the streets either.
decimation: so, for good reasons many choose
the state
they know
mircea_popescu: well, partly
that, partly "there's no longer
the state here
to clean out x y z and make it livable for K M N so Q W R win out"
mircea_popescu: which is
to say : interacting microorganisms sorta repress each other, all
the
time. but in imunocompromised patient, DIFFERENT set has
the upper hand
trinque: asciilifeform: yeah, got me young, still didn't
take
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, in aids patients virulence does not follow
the usual curves.
trinque: the one short-circuits learning and
the other justifies it
mircea_popescu: (and yes as alf points out,
the "broken presumptions" are always faces of
the same demon. "people are equal", his proper name)
decimation: if you read
the old
testament, most of
the people who became prophets were hit upside
the head by God and
told what
to do,
they weren't bureaucrats receiving
their sinecures
mircea_popescu: some institutions are necessarily going
to fuck up because
they proceed from broken presumptions.
decimation: people are fundamentally evil and so are
their institutions
mircea_popescu: but
the church is funfamentally good amirite? just it was misimplemented in practice.
decimation: more like,
they became closet atheists and decided
to use
the church as a propaganda organ
mircea_popescu: decimation oh, comrade stalin betrayed
the sacred ideals ?
decimation: except
those 'christians' were departing from orthodox doctrine
mircea_popescu: christianity ended up creating on earht
the hell it was going
to save people from
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
there is no dispute
that
the state creates
that place it supposedly defends you from.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no. about as rare as women giving birth
to buses.
mircea_popescu: in
the european cultural discourse it ended up as a bit of editorializing by people without a daily mail, looking
to illustrate
the idiocy
they read in some book.
decimation: ascii could also ride a nearby
train in a certain direction and be
the only member of his race aboard
mircea_popescu: not so observable. antrhopologically speaking,
the behaviour in question is beyond rare.
mircea_popescu: yeah. what you don't know is
that
the concept of "cannibals" is alike
the concept
that "niggers are by nature made
to be slaves"
mircea_popescu: but otherwise,
they are discussing salvation in
the reliugious sense
mircea_popescu: i am not responsible for
the subjective delusion of inquirers.
mircea_popescu: might as well ask "what in your cosmography, maps
the
thing
that ensures my eternal life past
the pearly gates"
ag3nt_zer0: asciilifeform: yes working out
the LSD kinks
BingoBoingo: ag3nt_zer0:
TI-89 is probably a better platform for play computing
mircea_popescu: "how would
they solve
the prob lem solved by chips" ios one question.
ag3nt_zer0: Trinque, well some basic programming would be a good place
to start I
think... a more fundamental understanding of
the history of
the cypherpunk movement, encrytion fundamentals, etc, anything
that will allow me
to be something more
than a slave
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 04:14:07; decimation:
trinque: note
that many people would replace orthodox Christianity with some kind of warmed-over socialism,
that doesn't make
their socialism Christianity (as loudly as
they might protest otherwise)
decimation: how would
the iroquis mint chips? how would
they arrange for more
than 5000 humans per sq mile?
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 19:22:29; mircea_popescu: if
the state went away
tomorrow nobody'd even notice.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's nature
the dead animals don't last long before other animals see
the phree protein
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: what is it
that you want
to learn?
ag3nt_zer0: So I got a raspberry pi and am hoping
that noodling around with
this device will correct some of
these fundamental misunderstanding I have...