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thestringpuller: ascii_field: okay what is your rationale on this?
nubbins`: it's a win-win situation for the purchaser
nubbins`: ascii_field that's why we're on the demand side, not the supply side
ascii_field: because it selects for this
ascii_field: until we have a way of dematerializing physical objects and reconstituting them in a remote place without traceable motion in-between, like bits, pretty much everyone who is willing to be involved on the supply side of dope economy is retarded
nubbins`: haven't had the pleasure
punkman: nubbins`: did you ever try AL-LAD?
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ascii_field: so legit they helpfully kept records of all names...
nubbins`: turns out they were :P
nubbins`: i had always wondered if those research chem sites were legit
ascii_field: ^ more than one such, even
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ascii_field: specifically for folks like this
punkman: I was recently shown a website that sold legal LSD analogues via credit card
ascii_field: wake me up when they're in my wot, and not opsec-retarded
nubbins`: purchase LSD online and there's NBOMe for sale right next to it so why not just call everything what it is and let the buyer choose? ☟︎
nubbins`: purchase LSD on the street and i almost guarantee you'll be purchasing an NBOMe
ascii_field: but why would i want to do that.
ascii_field: nubbins`: i could taste mystery meat
nubbins`: ascii_field didn't we just establish that you could taste these things but choose not to? :D
ascii_field: died last year, i think
nubbins`: hoffman famously lived to the ripe age of 102
ascii_field: punkman: i suspect that the majority of readers ~could~ obtain at least one or two of the items found in the pages
punkman: I'd say that holds for the majority of readers
ascii_field often wonders if he's the only man alive to have 1) read the books 2) wanted to taste the items described therein 3) could not
nubbins`: with the excuse given that there are plenty already and it would be absurd to cherry-pick a handful of his own
nubbins`: LSD-25 is (i think) the only substance that doesn't include qualitative comments
ascii_field owns the dead tree of 'pihkal' and 'tihkal'
nubbins`: related reading for the curious
nubbins`: this is true. they're in mine, tho :D
ascii_field: <nubbins`> regularly tested tabs and posted analysis << they aren't in my wot...
nubbins`: regularly tested tabs and posted analysis
nubbins`: the original SR had an lsd review team w/ access to a lab
nubbins`: short of sending some to a lab, all we have is subjective commentary
nubbins`: SWIM's source says they receive crystal and lay their own blotters, but as you say -- who knows?
nubbins`: my understanding is that crystal is dissolved in solution by producer, then laid by distributors, but i'm sure there are as many arrangements as producers and distributors
nubbins`: ^ from tihkal
ascii_field: nubbins`: lsd is unstable in solution. and so it would stand to reason that it is parceled out to the 'stamps' where produced.
ascii_field: nubbins`: unless vendor is also the producer (this is, as i understand, uncommon for opsec reasons) you in fact ~are~ 'choosing random'
nubbins`: what, you think i pop online and choose a random vendor each time? :D
ascii_field: fits in the comma at the end of a printed sentence. but for actual scientific self-experimentation a la alex shulgin one needs ~known~ dose
nubbins`: SWIM had to retrieve from garbage once due to extreme stealth on part of seller
ascii_field: and tipped off the police prior
nubbins`: so you take package from mailbox and lay it on your table for an hour.
ascii_field: the mayor of the town where i live had this set up for him
ascii_field: nubbins`: the crime of being nominated for police watch while checking mail
nubbins`: and if one day the dope shows up... what crime did you commit?
mats: actually, that should go without saying
nubbins`: ascii_field you realize that i could mail dope to your mailbox today, yes?
ascii_field: and lacking own gas chromatograph to see precisely what is in
mats: pick up a reagent kit if you're going to do that
ascii_field: nubbins`: l0l at morons having dope mailed to their postbox
nubbins`: SWIM definitely took a half-tab and attended math class more than once at uni
ascii_field: trinque: always wanted to try this, but never came close to accessing the dope ☟︎
trinque: ascii_field: yep, too much and your brain becomes useless, multicolored mush
ascii_field: trinque: there is apparently ample record of folks using very small (a few microgram) doses precisely this way
trinque: nubbins`: I tend to think of LSD as abstract-reasoning overdrive serum
nubbins`: LSD, psilocybin etc more "augment" things than anything else
nubbins`: people trying to sell drugs to toilets, etc
trinque: I've heard terrible things about datura
nubbins`: most of the stories end in the hospital or the police station
nubbins`: trip reports for that shit on Erowid.org were always fun to read
ascii_field: i also recall that the 'true hallucinogens' are generally taken once and 'wtf why did i do that'
mats: something about the stuff being stronger than last decade or w.e
ascii_field: iirc there exist 'true hallucinogens' where the user retains not a shred of doubt that the hallucinated sensations correspond to reality; and a 'false' kind, where there is doubt, and to which most extant hallucinogenic dope falls into
nubbins`: unfortunately mp just left so he is unable to inform us that the hallucinogenic effects of drugs don't exist and we're deluding ourselves into pretending to be hallucinating ☟︎
nubbins`: salvia divinorum is way more likely to induce synesthesia anyway
nubbins`: ascii_field nothing nearly as organized as that :D
trinque: yeah, my perception of the various senses gets diddled to the extreme, but they have never mixed
nubbins`: smelled ozone yesterday while shorting the control panel on a 240V conveyor dryer o.O
ascii_field: nubbins`: but what of the opposite, the colour of a smell ?
jurov: and it saved my ass several times
jurov: i have put a code in coinbr that checks for mandatory timezones and pops an excpetion otherwise
ascii_field: earth time.
mircea_popescu: fuck it, make one planet time and whoever doesn't fly enough can eat a bag of dicks.
trinque: yeah, that would be much better
mircea_popescu: than me having to keep changing the time.
mircea_popescu: i'd rather people had to get used to the fact they a) live in shitlandia so sunrise is at 4pm and b) they're shitlords that live in the dirt and so their interests areen't being catered to
trinque: mircea_popescu: I tend to ignore their existence except at the last step before display
jurov: i can be never sure i have put epoch time in
ascii_field: jurov: what time could you ever want that can't be recovered from epoch time ?
mircea_popescu loathes timezones.
jurov: 3. you can't visually check the dates looks right
jurov: 2. js needs to multiply the value 100x
jurov: are you certain you ceonverted everything to utc?
trinque: store as UTC with a separate tz field
jurov: 1. losing timezone is risky
trinque: why's parsing a single integer more dangerous than parsing a complicated string?
jurov: the database can save them as it wants as long i can get same thing as i put in
jurov: but seriously, certain experiences make me wary of using naked numbers for datetime, i always exchange stuff using ISO 8601 format and always with timezone
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ascii_field: (there are many ways to encode 'this is how long, and what follows is the integer itself)
ascii_field: fixed bit count time field >> braindamaged
jurov: well.. some databases use 'double' for the time
ascii_field: only in the sense that fleas on the dogs are contenders in the 'iditarod' races
mircea_popescu: technically ignorance is a side to any controversy
ascii_field: (notice i did not say '32-bit time')
mircea_popescu: it's only controversial in that most of the "participants" have nfi.
ascii_field: that 'fixint time' Must Die (TM) i imagine is not controversial