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mats: am seriously considering going under the knife in spite of the low chance it'll even work
decimation: mats: the beats thing still pisses me off ☟︎
BingoBoingo: mats: Anything work for your carpal tunnel yet? I've got an angry wrist nerve I am trying to conquer
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BingoBoingo: I swear I had a solid case for OpenNTPD over ISC NTPD, but the opinions on timekeeping are kept in a treacherous antipode
decimation: how many sheets to the wind are you?
mats: this is too cult-y for me
BingoBoingo: Eventually such a shitquake will happen such that we start printing upclocked Z80 processors on a 7nm process
funkenstein_: when the two shitplates touch: shitquake
BingoBoingo: mats: http://www.advogato.org/person/dtucker/diary/52.html << The answer sheet on the ntpd conflict
mats: you are on the edge of coherence tonight
mats: i don't understand how your link relates to why OpenNTPD is better than ISC NTPD
BingoBoingo: Shitgnomes try to ruin the things shit lords want to use
BingoBoingo: Shitgnomes leave turd traps and prevent nice things. Shit lords bury gnomes in turds to highlight their wretch. Mike Hearnia is a cononical shitgnome. Theo Deraadt and alf are cononical shitlords
funkenstein_: this is liable to get confusing
BingoBoingo notes that though both are prefixed with shit Shitgnomes and Shitlords are very different things.
BingoBoingo: This though is largely why OpenNTPD beats ISC NTPD http://web.archive.org/web/20050304032724/http://bradknowles.typepad.com/considered_harmful/2004/09/openntpd.html
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Block height is always going to to a rough measure of time due to entropy. Could make a great system for a calendar, poor for slicing up a day though
danielpbarron: could be something like the difficulty adjustment only not limited to the last 2 weeks
BingoBoingo: funkenstein_: Timekeeping is a battle between astronomy and nuclear chemistry
danielpbarron: funkenstein_, you aren't limited to just the last block
funkenstein_: one could always look at the sky
BingoBoingo: Accurate time doesn't happen
BingoBoingo: More random gives you more precise time.
BingoBoingo: If you want to measure epochs and years BTC blockheight is fine. If you want a race you want something calibrated against nuclear decay.
mats: precision and accuracy are different things
BingoBoingo: "coins" have insufficient entropy to be useful as a precision measure of time at all.
funkenstein_: danielpbarron, to get better than ~ 10 min. accuracy
decimation: funkenstein_: the point is that you can get time without trusting anything outside verified coins
BingoBoingo: funkenstein_: And then ATC or Doge abandoment dicks your averaging effort over
BingoBoingo: And yes, the shitgnomes fight improvement and cleanliness no matter how seemingly trivial a part of the stack janitors want to devomit
funkenstein_: but the whole thing seems somewhat pointless
BingoBoingo: They had to fight TimeGavin who fought their efforts to clean code and kill retardation
decimation: as well as how quickly you can acquire time
decimation: funkenstein_: it would be useful if you could determine time accuracy and variance
BingoBoingo: If you just want to count seconds on a C machine http://www.openntpd.org/ is pretty much the gold standard nao
funkenstein_: all it does is collect what miners have said the time is
funkenstein_: hehe, well, i guess this is a meta clock
BingoBoingo: <funkenstein_> it grabs headers from several altcoins and estimates the current time << The proper way to build a clock is with brass, a lathe, and a steady hand
decimation: because nobody wanted to trust ntp
decimation: as I recall this was needed in the pogo
funkenstein_: it grabs headers from several altcoins and estimates the current time
funkenstein_: while we're on the subject of time, i've been working on building a clock
decimation: ftp://hpiers.obspm.fr/iers/bul/buld/bulletind.124 < after the leap second, DUT1 will be +0.3s
funkenstein_: mayans laughing their asses off at us
decimation: also GMT is kinda outdated, the new thing is french UTC
decimation: to make things stupid they also go on daylight savings at different calendar days than we do
mats: oh, that explains it.
mats: on the subject of timezones
decimation: unless you want to make your own computing machine I suggest learning bedrock
decimation: C is essentially the 'bedrock' of modern computers
ag3nt_zer0: if I were to embark on a learning journey exploring the rudiments of programming, would there be good reason to not start with C? I always like to go to the root of something I am learning, which in my ignorant guesswork I like to think C is one of those root languages, but I have heard whisperings here and there that python is the way to go... any thoughts?
decimation: asciilifeform: C macros are of the devil
asciilifeform: nformed outsider can tell if someone is being archived. The leakage should be subtle enough that it is not easily noticed.'
asciilifeform: 'The underhanded goal is this: write surveil() in such a way that the act of surveillance is subtly leaked to the user or to the outside world. PiuPiu can not reveal the act of surveillance, but your function is technically able to edit the Piu or user structure during scanning. Find a way to alter that data (this alone is a bit of a challenge, since you are not supposed to alter the data, just scan it) in such a way that an i
asciilifeform: 'The PiuPiu oversharing site allows users to create PiuPiu accounts and post 140-character messages. The federal government wants PiuPiu to surveil user activity on the site, by archiving any posts that match certain patterns outlined in a national security letter. Subject to the nondisclosure constraints of the letter, PiuPiu may not inform anyone of the surveillance request.' ☟︎
asciilifeform: this one was nsa-themed, too
BingoBoingo: ^ Added to the 21 year plan
asciilifeform: (technically last year. this year's contest not yet began)
asciilifeform: http://www.underhanded-c.org << this year's winners
mats: TIL GNU wdiff is a thing
trinque: heh no, but them too
trinque: due to govt requirements
trinque: well, now you know how to make curl and gpg kiss
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It wouldn't be the first time
ag3nt_zer0: 5 thumbs over here haha
ag3nt_zer0: yeah thanks to you trinque hehe
trinque: hey, look there
assbot: Logged on 18-06-2015 23:57:28; trinque: "to ascertain that their bitcoin holdings are not derived from the proceeds of crime." << hilarious
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2015#1168261 << hypothetical twist: whole thing is a front by chinese miners, anxious to sell certifiably 'clean' coin to gullible schmucks at a premium ☝︎☟︎
punkman: yeah gotta remember how HSBC turned down all those mexicans drug dealers
trinque: as opposed to their fiat holdings
trinque: "to ascertain that their bitcoin holdings are not derived from the proceeds of crime." << hilarious ☟︎
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mats: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spicm13kLMk the other released song in this album
ag3nt_zer0: haha was just about to say I think I have bothered you guys enough for one day!
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: run mats command without the space in front
ag3nt_zer0: and now have echoing private messages with self... is that what was supposed to happen?
ag3nt_zer0: so I did this: *ag3nt_zer0* !up ag3nt_zer0
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: assbot wants you to send the up request via pm
ag3nt_zer0: trinque: I think I got something... first I got: -assbot- Insufficient rights, ag3nt_zer0, !up yourself on PM first.
ag3nt_zer0: well trinque, jurov, shinohai - thanks alot for your guys help today!
ag3nt_zer0: trinque: thanks! are those links supposed to be dead ends? all of them appear to be except this... which says user not found... http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/ag3nt_zer0/
assbot: Trust relationship from user trinque to user ag3nt_zer0: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=trinque&to=ag3nt_zer0 | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/ag3nt_zer0/
ag3nt_zer0: so cool... even though I a still figuring out what the hell it all means... hehe
trinque: you are voiced, but that's temporary
assbot: Trust relationship from user trinque to user ag3nt_zer0: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=trinque&to=ag3nt_zer0 | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/ag3nt_zer0/
ag3nt_zer0: oh wow I even have a +... thought I still had to earn that!
assbot: Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: E3A490547D5E8A590A5608B0C31CB3DFF91576C7. This may take a few moments.
ag3nt_zer0: hehe thx
assbot: That does not seem to be a valid fingerprint.
assbot: That does not seem to be a valid fingerprint.
trinque: mats: ooh another single... ty
menahem: mats, awesome idea, i'll look into it, ty.
cazalla: for a moment i was like.. why would jurov not give qntra the scoop? http://www.coindesk.com/latin-america-coinbr-acquires-coinverse/ ☟︎
mats: might be worth your time to put it in the -otc order book
gribble: Error: No orders found matching these criteria.
menahem: a lil weekend job, throw it up, post some links, make some passive cash