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mircea_popescu: and they sell for... about that ?
decimation: greenspun: "(compare to about $25,000 per flight hour to charter (source)). If American Airlines spent this much during the 7-hour flight from London to Boston it would cost $1.44 million for the trip in operating cost (i.e., not including the capital cost of the aircraft) or about $3500 per passenger (i.e., a round-trip coach ticket couldn?t be sold for less than about $7000 plus taxes and fees)."
trinque: just autotune the shit and put some buzzing synth in there
mircea_popescu: so i guess they decided they could make more money by keeping fewer clone tanks
trinque: decimation: they don't even make 'em do that r&b yodel anymore
decimation: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/10/obama-cracks-down-on-airplane-emissions-buys-massive-new-air-force-one/ < Taxpayers currently spend $206,337 for every flight hour aboard Air Force One.
decimation: sometimes it helps if she has singing talent, but it's not that important
trinque: they take a skinny white chick and feed her into the machine every other year
decimation: I thought it was well known that anything to do with 'popular music' is essentially nothing more than a marketing chumpatron
mircea_popescu: omfg! i totally called it. ITS THE SAME LIFTED PHOTOS GUYSE!
decimation: at any rate the irs definitely taxes your shit on it, even if unspendable
decimation: add a few ounces of metal to the cheapass plastic; charge $200
mircea_popescu: is this actually a person even ?
mircea_popescu: what is this, avril lavigne v2.0 ?
decimation: for instance this dre fellow thinks he knows how to engineer headphones
mircea_popescu: more importantly, how do we know it's not "buncha anon hags are driving the star-fluid movement, wherein everyone thinks they're a star"
ascii_field: a usual gambit is to try to 'luxurify the ordinary' by getting folks used to a crippled item, then re-introducing the missing bits
mircea_popescu: How Stars Like Cara Delevingne, Kristen Stewart, & Miley Cyrus Are Leading the Gender Fluid Movement for Millennials << who the fuck are these "stars" ?
mircea_popescu: "because technocomputerology is not masses accessible sufficiently!111"
decimation: note the divorce between marketing and technologists
decimation: yeah that's fucktarded
ascii_field: where they snipped the fpu
mircea_popescu: i got the letters wrong
decimation: yeah the sx was without the floating point unit I think
ascii_field: mircea_popescu is thinking of 486dx
mircea_popescu: decimation no no, there was a shitty series of 486 processors
decimation: it's been 'upgraded' 3 more times
ascii_field: except then it becomes ubiquitous
decimation: mmx is a streaming extension to x86 for processing floating point
mircea_popescu: (the "cheap laptop" thing being a recent example)
mircea_popescu: as all these idiocies ever do.
mircea_popescu: there was a huge cost to, basically, gavinize computers around that time. it's how "mmx" processors came about, and "streamlined" mobos with no batteries etc.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: this thing started life as a winblows-ce (yes) graphical terminal
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> turned out, it lacks a bios battery << oh i recall those shitty boards.
decimation: plus, once you are paying $bil to corba and java developers, they are not gonna listen to some rf engineer who knows about radios
decimation: ascii_field: yes, radios that are designed to work as radios rather than platonic ideals of radios do tend to work well
trinque: I have no delusions about having a generally useful computer this decade
trinque: I've avoided the shit like the plague otherwise
trinque: after which who knows, I might dare dabble in C++ for the second time in my career
decimation: it's almost dead predictable every time a new tech cycle comes around: usg spends $bil on 'new tech that will save lots of money', fails any gains, actual people working in the field are displaced by carpetbaggers
trinque: ascii_field: my aim is to have something upon which to build buttcoind repeatably
ascii_field: decimation: afaik 100% of usg code that actually ~works~ is 1995 and prior
ascii_field: in the words of orlov, 'try asking a different question, to which there may be an answer'
ascii_field: there ~is not a good answer~ to this question
trinque: mod6: pulled it from teh logz for shinohai
ascii_field: back to the 'plz recommend standard hardware that isn't retarded' thing - i can't help but rub in the point here, that we are playing 'junkyard wars'
trinque: shinohai: top result
shinohai: @ trinque I am a dumb fuck that knows nothing about gentoo. I wish I could so I could slap Luke Jr in da face.
trinque: has most of the bullshit removed via USE
trinque: shinohai: try mod6's gentoo build maybe
shinohai: I <3 Debian but the bloated systemd kills me
ascii_field: thing is a turd, from the black-box cpu (all 'arm' are builds of opaque licensed blob from uk) to the 'systemd' shit ecosystem that will run on top
shinohai: I can do the same thing with any discarded android, with enuf time
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shinohai: @ ascii_field what are your thoughts on this? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computer
ascii_field: i would like 486 but not if i have to set up the disk thing every time it turns on.
ascii_field: to finish the story, i dug for data sheets for the 'ali' chipset found therein, in hopes of affixing something like a 'cmos battery' - and found, unsurprisingly, nothing
ascii_field: trinque: depends very much on whether you can distinguish genuinely valuable things from the kind of garbage i was describing just now
trinque: asking genuinely, perhaps there's not
ascii_field: as in, literally no place to emplace it
ascii_field: the only thing more useless than a modern opaque turd is a 1990s opaque turd that no one is ~even working on~ reverse-engineering today
shinohai: I just need to find a way to think around it.
shinohai: There is no such thing as an obsolete computer in my mind, unless it is hopelessly fragmented by usg
trinque: tends to be the format for papers posted here
trinque: while they can be got, heh
trinque: of late I collect two things; old computers/parts and PDFs
ascii_field: on account of amd's poor health, i see x86 as being very soon dead to me entirely
ascii_field: in terms of estimating longevity
ascii_field: needless to say it's built around amd g-series chip. so when amd kisses good-bye, that's all for this box
trinque: I mean flashing the guy
trinque: what's the tooling to write to that run?
ascii_field: (iirc the one it ships with doesn't work)
trinque: and was thinking of snagging decimation's terminal
ascii_field: trinque: so long as you're ok with operating over '80s-style terminal
trinque: yeah, I'm thinking this would be a bitcoind dev/build box
trinque: ascii_field: yeah I chose "pointed out" to keep from saying that's your recommended box
assbot: Logged on 19-06-2015 20:55:44; trinque: mod6: maybe; I'd like to see a standard piece of hardware recommended at some point
ascii_field: nor does attaching one through the m-pcie slots appear to work
ascii_field: trinque: keep in mind, those have no vga
shinohai: I must add I put Debian Jessie on that laptop in place of 8
trinque: I might buy one of the pcengines machines ascii_field pointed out soon
shinohai: I have a shitty laptop that came with Win8, I wouldn't trade it for a Mac even if you added a few btc to the mix
trinque: mod6: maybe; I'd like to see a standard piece of hardware recommended at some point ☟︎
mod6: <+trinque> no, that's precisely the right response << i wonder if its easier to just tell mac people to fire up a vm of linux/bsd and just use gpg inside of that?
shinohai: I tried to help him but I m hoplessly out of my element with other OS's no matter how hard I try
trinque: I'll happily lead a noob through using the proper tools, but wont bother with someone who refuses to use the proper tools
trinque: no, that's precisely the right response
shinohai: gpgtools was what he was using. I was drinking pernod and told him to fuck off and use linux basically
trinque: er no, "gpgtools" is the one I had in mind
trinque: shinohai: that macgpg thing seems like a wad of unnecessary crap
shinohai: @ thestringpuller i had a pm from a guy using a mac last night using gpg on a mac (gui) I couldn't help because I know dick about macs.
thestringpuller: I suspekt the second you put priv keys on a mac they go straight ot the secret iCloud.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: and by 'for mac' they almost always mean 'using mac gui'
mircea_popescu: may be a bridge too far, too thin, too short and too fallen in the water too long ago.
mircea_popescu: i suspect what they mean is, "someone with experience with crapple software that doesn't suck"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2015#1168137 << yes. a large number of people do, who all seem to be lookingfor the same thing. "someone with experience with gpgtools for mac" ☝︎
shinohai: @ trinque "marriage, not even once" <<< My motto
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mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2015#1168104 << all this c0khaet!1 ☝︎
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