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mircea_popescu: diana_coman most likely plaesi, other side of mountain from piatra neamt.

pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/sobieski-si-romanii/#selection-693.0-709.26 << fyi italics start here and aren't closed so they continue throughout the remainder of the footnotes.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman lol what a mess. a) wasn't built by teutons ; b) cantemir the elder was king, not stephen omfg.

asciilifeform: diana_coman, mircea_popescu : this is an interesting question, with a depressing answer - common lisp standard is nearing, arguably, it's 'lincoln war' moment, because the necessary general-purpose computer is growing thin on the ground.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman your hawk eye, m'lady!

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not every tank contains pirannhas. consider the old american south

mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski this fellow is original'\s younger brother nd no, they were ottomans.

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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it works against low-effort vermin.

a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 17:46 asciilifeform: ( did mircea_popescu ever build that mega-toilet ??)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i guesses as much.

asciilifeform: many positive things re the turks in mircea_popescu's works.

asciilifeform: i've wondered on occasion why mircea_popescu did not settle among the turks.

asciilifeform: what, other than proper euro winter, did mircea_popescu not fit in his suitcase ?

asciilifeform: how was meatspace mircea_popescu ?

trinque: gabriel_laddel was supposed to be building just this

ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: probably has better binding arbitrartion jokes than i in any case

Framedragger: ben_vulpes' subconscious is tapping into his tty

trinque: ben_vulpes' pastinator strikes again?

asciilifeform: ( http://www.public.navy.mil/navsafecen/Documents/afloat/Submarines/FLASH/FLASH_2011/2011_Jul-Sep_Web.pdf )

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i always picture them as being reused for gulags.

asciilifeform: as described in pete_dushenski's quote.

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: sounds suspiciously cheap

mats: looks like i read the old ver of the doc. see https://apps.fcc.gov/kdb/GetAttachment.html?id=zXtrctoj6zH7oNEOO6De6g%3D%3D&desc=594280%20D02%20U-NII%20Device%20Security%20v01r03&tracking_number=39498 for the new one if you wanna read

asciilifeform: there is 1 historic solution, as mircea_popescu like to point out, 'be chingis khan', 10,001 slaves, armies, castles.

asciilifeform: i will add that my interest in subj is not limited to the sea, but to all other environments which are hostile to 'normalpeoplewithfamilies' (as depicted in mircea_popescu's articles) yet have plenty of room to be 'lost' inside, and quite habitable with some amount of technological help

asciilifeform: (i suppose they do, if you're chingis khan, or mircea_popescu , etc. but not for the contemplated poorfag use case.)

asciilifeform: ( did mircea_popescu ever build that mega-toilet ??) ☟︎

asciilifeform: have fun mircea_popescu

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: expand ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is like that fella ( mthreat ?) who bought a mig

asciilifeform: picture mircea_popescu were asked to design a bridge. 'just part 50% of the moon's mass right ~here~...'

trinque: I suspect people who can't find *anyone* to tolerate of a sort of gabriel_laddelism, i.e. if I stay up for 48hrs on tab cola I can rewrite gentoo portage fastrrrr

trinque: mircea_popescu: science is still a matter of conversation with others

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hm ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu must have very different notion of 'selectable' if it has room for an orc anthill

asciilifeform: so what would a sane approach to 'i wish to live with the company of other bipeds being wholly SELECTABLE', if not boat ? or mircea_popescu sees entire question as nuttery.

asciilifeform: and quite likely mircea_popescu is right re the technical side.

asciilifeform: this was my sole objection to mircea_popescu's position - he mixes technical (you can NEVER make this machine work economically) with philosophical (trying to ~formulate~, not to mention ~solve~, this problem is MADNESS!111) objection.

a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 17:44 mircea_popescu: for the anthropologist, god damned fascinating, they're like a family-sized snail building its conch.

a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 17:48 mircea_popescu: there's ONE thing the middle eastern guy has that white man can't replicate, and that is, a stable, and here i kid you not, a stable, of dozen+ pliable obedient females WITH offspring.

asciilifeform: the last time we had this thread we got a, imho, more interesting mircea_popescuine: 'boat is wrong problem because you are trying to make being poor and powerless work, if yer poor yer job is to die'

asciilifeform: is this simply variation on familiar mircea_popescu program 'i am demigod and if somebody has a motivation i don't grasp, they are inconsequential sea slug and stfu' ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the transport vessel is a special case of 'dome'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu doesn't even conceptualize the problem i'd like solved as being a problem.

a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 16:05 mircea_popescu: cuz the idea that you'd want to, in preference of, say, prison, is entirely shocking to me.

a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 15:48 asciilifeform: i suspect that mircea_popescu pisses on 'quidnon' for reasons which have nothing to do with hydrodynamics or metallurgy

phf: mircea_popescu: huh, i checked the plot and i was wrong, i was convinced that the protagonist was a lady

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i actually poked nose into the subj, so not entirely innocent of 'yacht is 1,01 types of machine' concept

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu simply doesn't grok the depth of asciilifeform's misanthropy.

a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 15:44 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's 'sailboat' is a racing yacht. orlov's is a (mostly) wind-powered antisocial survival capsule.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: consider pykrete.

thestringpuller: trinque: http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-KU141_blackl_G_20151015224318.jpg << not if your shipping container looks like this on the inside

asciilifeform: about as practical, for a non-mircea_popescu, as a space station, to own.

asciilifeform: i suspect that mircea_popescu pisses on 'quidnon' for reasons which have nothing to do with hydrodynamics or metallurgy ☟︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: plastics happened.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's 'sailboat' is a racing yacht. orlov's is a (mostly) wind-powered antisocial survival capsule. ☟︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: your sailboats, again, are a 'race horse' luxurywank item, not a practical instrument

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they are not made for this purpose, but he is attempting to design one which is..

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: all of mr o's materials presume 'live in boat' means sailboat.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes but did you attempt to ~live~ in them.

asciilifeform: from past orlov&boat threads, iirc mircea_popescu sailed titanic diesels.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's boats were pleasure boats for rich folk.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: orlov has an interesting pill for mircea_popescu's 'if yer boat has a hole, you gotta drydock it and now you're out $maxint' >> http://quidnon.blogspot.com/2016/07/on-women-boats-and-plumbing.html

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc the occasional harem washout was married off to a pasha

thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "In addition, for those interested in keeping their tokens from the losing blockchain as a keepsake, we will support a one-time withdrawal of the deprecated tokens, provided that the losing chain is still functional when you attempt a withdrawal. Specific instructions on how to access your tokens on the old chain to follow."

mircea_popescu: (take for instance the "independent" demo as described in http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/#footnote_6_65060 and more generally by Ballas. it's well over 100k loi, most of which are involved with covering up the fact that there's any ideology at work in the first place)

thestringpuller: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4tj82o/hes_back_with_stupid_tweets_now_comparing_the/d5hrewa << for those wanting to follow the brain damage.

mircea_popescu: and in other homemade spaceship news, http://67.media.tumblr.com/b98c7d3b963b8365c786c382be4f6b25/tumblr_nlmu53Wilr1u25ct8o2_1280.jpg

asciilifeform: https://ant.isi.edu/address/it.37.all.16-subnet_stats.3px-per-point.annotated.png

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: maybe only place having pr0n pics intermixed with latin and greek, say; which is something

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: university trying to charge people? interesting.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if that were enough, gif would have died

a111: Logged on 2014-11-15 15:55 pete_dushenski: "the crews that maintain the nation’s 450 intercontinental ballistic missiles had only a single wrench that could attach the nuclear warheads. “They started FedExing the one tool” to three bases spread across the country"

trinque: poor ben_vulpes is gonna be in for a triggering when he catches up on logs

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: ah! flask is useful and quick to prototype on, fwiw

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: ^

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it doesn't matter what you hang off pci, there is a ~10x variance of front-side vs back-side bus

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ~1 order of magnitude diff.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: seeking. but really i'd rather optimize the proggy than add to the (already gigantic) recurring cost.

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: ssd would help much on that machine i'd suspect, if it's really i/o bound, as simplistic as it sounds

mircea_popescu: and in other "hope for the hopefuls" news, http://66.media.tumblr.com/56c2e25b663d2159e09edaadb9191b8e/tumblr_nb24e741rw1qc2yxpo1_1280.jpg

trinque: one part eats IRC and writes to postgresql, sends pg_notify to connected db clients that there are new rows; another listens for new rows in an outbox table to write to the chan

trinque: mircea_popescu: yep, thing could let trusted folks write queries

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i will note that this was theoretically the promise of ~every 'framework' ever published, but each and every single one cancerously deviated from it

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've not yet succeeded in setting up a 100% de-drepperized openbsd.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm not convinced of this

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al are invited to make an actual list of urgent missing knobs

jurov: mircea_popescu: see later in the log, apparently appended csv would enable corruption O.o

a111: Logged on 2016-07-18 16:23 mircea_popescu: if you want a csv version, why not make that. if you're making a html version, should have pages.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: buncha machines, NOT on same subnet.

a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 20:38 mircea_popescu: recall, jurov parsed all of github, produced a pile of keys and the convertor code

Framedragger: effective_cache_size e.g. could be set to 75% of total system memory. otherwise - don't want to presume - but it may end up paging the fuck out out of the disk. or other things..

Framedragger: asciilifeform: postgres defaults are fucking stupid. `shared_buffers`, an important thing when doing sorting, is 32 MiB at default

Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-18#1505059 << are you using postgres? if so, advice from someone who has run a (hopefully) decent www+db thing with > 100 GiB of data in postgres: follow https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Tuning_Your_PostgreSQL_Server or equivalent for your db (but i'll swear behind postgres any day). this is normal practice, mind you, not "hax0ring for nosql immigrants" ☝︎

Framedragger: and e,N,IP for the additional 1.82M key ball is in the http://95.85.10.71:8000/all/openpgp/ssh_openpgp_diff_2016-07-13.tar (file at top, directories under contain the openpgp'd versions). hope this makes sense, it's a bit ad hoc

Framedragger: asciilifeform: original 10M e,N,IP: http://95.85.10.71:8000/all/e-N-IP_all_2016-06-14.tar.bz2

a111: Logged on 2016-07-13 18:26 Framedragger: asciilifeform: i have moar ssh keys for ya: http://95.85.10.71:8000/all/openpgp/ssh_openpgp_diff_2016-07-13.tar (diff from that 10M bunch, i.e. only new ones) 920M file, 1.82M new ssh keys.

Framedragger: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hey i may be up for setting up some kind of searchable thing with everything dumped into postgres. not sure how much worth vs. time, but could be useful as these stats grow