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mircea_popescu: perfect way for the living wage introduction.
mircea_popescu: and they will.
asciilifeform: eventually will have to pay folks to touch it
decimation: even though it's really worth negative
decimation: note that microsoft has dropped price of windows to $0
asciilifeform: it is done ~solely~ so that microshit gets to release winblows $year
asciilifeform: the 'shrink dies' thing is pure sideshow.
asciilifeform: actually the thing they put 'all their chips' is collaboration with microshit and the entire criminal pyramid
decimation: not that we would know it anyway, because of the nda problem
decimation: what I mean is that intel, for instance, just puts all their chips on the 'let's shrink dies' side
asciilifeform: go and try getting full docs for anything larger than a full adder.
asciilifeform: decimation: if only. the 'intellectual property!!!111!!!!!' cancer has eaten most of it
assbot: Network Tools: DNS,IP,Email ... ( http://bit.ly/1NcRhBh )
decimation: asciilifeform: the electronics industry is still largely in that mode
punkman: did the qntra spam affect the other domains too?
assbot: Jack Tramiel obituary: Founder of Commodore computers dies at 83 - latimes ... ( http://bit.ly/1NcReWb )
asciilifeform: http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/12/local/la-me-jack-tramiel-20120412 << tramiel didn't give a rat's arse re: computing 'big picture.' he was running a manufacturing concern, in the old 19th. sense in his mind, complete with 'muntzing'
mircea_popescu: the world totally needs 95 of these things.
decimation: "Like many other inmates, his father was reported to have died of typhus in the work camp; however, Tramiel believed he was killed by an injection of gasoline. " nasty
mircea_popescu: meanwhile irl, Checking 188.68.240.159 against 95 known blacklists... Listed 0 times with 0 timeouts
decimation: asciilifeform: not auschwitz, Ahlem according to la wik
asciilifeform: phun phakt: tramiel sat in auschwitz.
mircea_popescu: well not exactly. he was more into the "why should i punish google for google fucking up my email ?!?!?! i just want email to work!!11"
asciilifeform: (y'know, the fella who said 'why aren'tcha using gmail, terrorist')
decimation: "The disagreement between Tramiel and Gould was so bitter that, after Tramiel's departure, the Commodore magazine was forbidden to state any of Tramiel's famous sayings or even mention his name."
mircea_popescu: interesting how the twerps keep changing name, too. i don't seem to recall this particular extortionist.
mircea_popescu: the odds of me "visiting" some random agent in the "danegeld to email" scamring ? zilch.
mircea_popescu: http://csi.cloudmark.com/reset-request for more information on why this message
mircea_popescu: SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<support@cgcookiemarkets.com>:
trinque: they probably have a script they go by which includes something like "third world" on it
trinque: but we're free! because anyone can have their own dismal bureaucracy
trinque: it occurs to me that the fraud dept of paypal may look very much like some soviet bureau's office did
decimation: ^ note that thier perception of what is 'weird' is purely what usg smiles upon
mircea_popescu: "weird bad, stupid good! for weird is weird and stupid smells like the home stable!11"
mircea_popescu: im entirely certain they actually THINK THIS, too.
mircea_popescu: running off with payments and then blocking emails is a perfectly legit strategy.
mircea_popescu: apparently I'm the shady one for not using paypal and being romanian.
mircea_popescu: in other news : apparently blender has this official "marketplace" thing, which lists various assets for sale. so I go for a 16 bucks buy, on the theory that let's check it out. coinbase, of course. my payment is uncredited. they have a support email for just this case, i write to them... my email is rejected.
decimation: because the commodore board was full of retards apparently
decimation: yeah the other problem was jack tramiel left
BingoBoingo: decimation: And warm climate agricultual labor was the selling point of involuntary immigration of Africans, but only because Mestizos were too expensive at the time.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well ? THAT is how.
asciilifeform: ^ iirc we had a cbm thread here
assbot: 5 results for 'jack tramiel' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=jack+tramiel
asciilifeform: !s jack tramiel
asciilifeform: eventually they diverted revenue into making items like 'c128' but it was too late.
asciilifeform: the death of cbm is a pretty well-documented subject, and revolved around their one and only unforgivable sin - royally pissing off their c64 install base by breaking compatibility
decimation: he was probably right about that
assbot: An Interview With Chuck Peddle - Charismatic Chipmaking Coryphaeus | The Amp Hour Electronics Podcast ... ( http://bit.ly/1NcPP1U )
decimation: http://www.theamphour.com/241-an-interview-with-chuck-peddle-charismatic-chipmaking-coryphaeus/ < chuck peddle claimed that 'basic' was the real selling point of the c64
asciilifeform: how this can be compared to 'playstation' i cannot fathom
asciilifeform: again, it was a computer, sold as a computer, with 'anyone can write for this' and proper docs
BingoBoingo has never found a working Apple IIGS at an acceptable price. Played with one for a bit Phree then...
asciilifeform: quite comparable to mid-90s msdos, in terms of pure technical 'effect'
mircea_popescu: we did, they sucked, how it goes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno how documented it was, not caring for such thing at that age. i know however that the amiga guy never made anything like a game.
BingoBoingo: <decimation> asciilifeform: c64 was cheaper than apple ii as i recall << c64 was easily cheaply stamped product, Amiga was not
asciilifeform: nor tied user's hands in any particular way
asciilifeform: afaik cbm did not ever attempt to extort tribute from peripheral makers, or software devs
decimation: asciilifeform: c64 was cheaper than apple ii as i recall
mircea_popescu: apple managed to somehow remain THE SAME assholes in spite of changing everything around jobs
asciilifeform: the difference is that cbm did not sell a cult, it sold machinery
BingoBoingo: Apple II's apple's swan song the IIGS was a great machine
mircea_popescu: and while i agree with you re the distinction, i believe it's without a difference.
mircea_popescu: no, im comparing the amiga i knew (early 90s) to the apple i saw (late 90s onwards)
asciilifeform: when apple sold b&w thing
asciilifeform: ferphuxxsake amiga had what we'd call a gpu today
asciilifeform: compare in the flower of their youth, rather than, say, '93 when cbm was a vegetable
mircea_popescu: they stand in my mind because when i first heard of apple i thought "hey... this is like... amiga ?"
asciilifeform: in any of the products sold by that firm
BingoBoingo: decimation: But on top of msot weirdo bsd
asciilifeform: there is literally no trace of it remaining.
decimation: on top of bsd
decimation: note that 'next' is basically modern osx
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: point was not that it was difficult to drill. aftermarket 'keys' appeared almost immediately. point was the symbolic meaning of this abomination
asciilifeform: (there were really four outfits under name 'apple' - the folks who sold apple ii series; the folks who sold 'mac' until '99; rebranded 'next corp.' under herr jobs; the present-day zombie.)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> cbm shipped ~schematics~ with machines. apple sold... yes, a key, with which the 'annointed' could open the b&w mac chassis << You mean apple provided a target for the drill
asciilifeform: cbm shipped ~schematics~ with machines. apple sold... yes, a key, with which the 'annointed' could open the b&w mac chassis
assbot: Logged on 25-06-2015 02:27:05; mircea_popescu: there's in fact a heap of identical assholes that never made it, which nobody seemsd to ever know about.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-06-2015#1175101 << there was! but it is a mistake to lump in amiga. cbm was still under delusion that it sold ~computers~ rather than 'system' (that is, complete slave planet like apple, where peripheral makers pay danegeld, etc) ☝︎
BingoBoingo: trinque: BeBox was the next gen victim of Mac survival
trinque: ultra-stable, high performance, was miles ahead of the game re: graphics in its time
trinque: BingoBoingo | It's something of a pity that Mac survived and Amiga died << heard "microkernel wank" a couple times round here, but I was a huge BeOS fan back in the day
BingoBoingo: Liberal palefolk assume whitey mean Bushes, Clintons, and Rothschilds. Radical whites and non-graduating blacks assume whitey is trailer trash.
decimation: having a large block of voting catholic irish - had to be crushed
decimation: and those poor whites were largely the targets of black immigration to cities
BingoBoingo: decimation: Only when sane pale folk say whitey. When SJW's and the lower class blacks say whitey they mean poor whites.
decimation: generally 'whitey' in this case are old-fashioned anglican wasps
mircea_popescu: whites are like the jews, amirite ?
mircea_popescu: we find the following things suspicious : romania, paywalls, and bitcoin.
assbot: Logged on 25-06-2015 02:10:44; BingoBoingo: From an era before Whitey invented suburbia to concede sexual prowess to the african american
decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-06-2015#1175076 < actually whitey moved the black folk into the cities - to push out 'white ethnic' voting blocks ☝︎
assbot: New Blender Foundation Transparency Blog - Page 16 ... ( http://bit.ly/1NcNKCV )
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> the difference is minute. amiga, just as bad assholes. << Sure. The biggest difference was Amiga paid more for parts on each box so they could get the niche live video production market. All the assholes, reamed on their chosen niches
mircea_popescu: there's in fact a heap of identical assholes that never made it, which nobody seemsd to ever know about. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 25-06-2015 01:48:21; mircea_popescu: this is perhaps not painfully obvious to you on account of some version of the memory hole effect, but it can not be readily put into code, the degree of braindamage. perhaps a field full of gotos with no other instructions
BingoBoingo: They even all have their own libc
BingoBoingo: <decimation> in theory bsd and mac should be similar << BSD isn't all that similar to other BSD
BingoBoingo: It's something of a pity that Mac survived and Amiga died
decimation: in theory you could make an X11 version if it already works on X