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mod6: we could try some other version like 1.0.0.0 and see what happens i guess.
mod6: well, my concerns were of a technical nature anyway.
asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu seems to disagree. ask'im why
mod6: And if we wanna call it version 69.69.69.69 then there was some sort of concerns here surrounding weather or not we'd be able to connect to other nodes. I'd have to go back and look and dig through the code a bit though, I can't recall it all off hand.
asciilifeform: imho it ought to be distinguishable from shitgnomatic bitcoin with the naked eye, incl. in survey charts like the one linked a few days ago
mod6: so we've talked about the versioning quite a bit since October. The deal is, if we talk about nothing other than just the format ( X.X.X.X ), we know that we'll have to change much more code than just one line to give it a new version number, as there is a bunch of stuff in there that is used to parse this value.
kakobrekla: isnt that puberty music?
trinque: thestringpuller: now you've got me listening to young jeezy over here
mod6: im about to turn it on myself. lol.
mod6: <+thestringpuller> mod6: make me feel better for likley not being able to see it << just throw it on your mp3 player and start hustlin'
kakobrekla blames the css
mod6: if we do anything else other than 5.4, that'd probably be good cause otherwise we'll hvae to patch your patch. :]
asciilifeform: i'll sign an identical patch sans the bump if anyone needs this.
mod6: yeah, as far as the version number, in hindsight; going forward, we should probably keep all version bumps in it's own patch incase something changes. i.e. your latest IRC Full Demolition Patch.
kakobrekla: << usgtron with elaborate graph ad < meh i checked the yellow dots but there is everybody but bitbet. even jurovs coinroll is there
mod6: yeah i added the tarballs right in website myself... just was curious that i never saw the emails.
jurov: ^ i see rm_rf_upnp there
asciilifeform: ^ there
assbot: ..::[ The Bitcoin Foundation ]::.. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jmf6J8 )
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: http://thebitcoin.foundation/index.html has the patches, and jurov has the sigs <<< ooh, ok.
asciilifeform has a mips ci20 but not tried it for bitcoin, considering its cost it is not a viable successor for 'pogo'
mod6: asciilifeform: hmm, i can't find them. i've looked probably half-a-dozen times over the last 5 months. unless its contained in here: http://thebitcoin.foundation/ml/btc-dev/2014-October/000001.html (attachment.bin)
jurov: http://dilbert.com/strip/2015-06-25 re: today's morning log
asciilifeform: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/6091 << turdalicious bitcoind barfs on mips arch
asciilifeform: (and i think they're also in your auto-build thing)
assbot: ..::[ The Bitcoin Foundation ]::.. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JmeYt6 )
asciilifeform: mod6: http://thebitcoin.foundation/index.html has the patches, and jurov has the sigs
asciilifeform: mod6: you're right! those pre-date the turdatron working correctly
thestringpuller: mod6: make me feel better for likley not being able to see it
asciilifeform: mod6: pretty sure it's in there
asciilifeform: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/6320 << where they bury their shat-in pants
mod6: thestringpuller: nice man! yeah, that'll definately be a cool show.
mod6: asciilifeform: hey btw, I don't think that your patches { turdmeister-alert-snip && goodbye-win32 } ever made it into the email list.
asciilifeform: couldn't make this shit up if i tried.
assbot: RFC: switching to C++ 11 · Issue #6211 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1JmeItS )
asciilifeform: what's a tm101 ?
thestringpuller: mod6: so jeezy is playing tonight downtown in celebration of the 10th anniversary of tm101. and i didn't know about it. i'm half tempted to get 500 cash and go find some ticket scalpers
ben_vulpes: if in tank, nbd
BingoBoingo: <mod6> maybe it was planned, but then scrubbed and went straight to 6? << They have been scrubbing the Github of old releases in recent months it seems
mod6: maybe it was planned, but then scrubbed and went straight to 6?
mod6: oh yeah there is, nvm, im blind
mod6: I don't see it in "Releases" either, but there isn't a v0.5.3 in there either.
mod6: maybe they never actually created a release out of that? I see no tags for 0.5.4 or 0.5.5
asciilifeform: 2014 is the timestamp on the ~dir~
mod6: asciilifeform: ... 0.5.4 shitgnomatic edition existed << that's weird. I did check the bitcoin git tag list, 0.5.4 isn't in there. Where do you see 0.5.4?
kakobrekla: because technically its better.
kakobrekla: i was expecting it to beat all other tube rectifiers i have
kakobrekla: the sound became unpleasant to listen to, harsh, loss in detail and huge loss in soundstage
kakobrekla: havent opened it tho
kakobrekla: i assume thats in the ss replacement
kakobrekla: since you mention ss, i tried solid state rectifier replacement instead of tube rectifier. it was a mega fail.
decimation: I suspect the difference would be most noticable if you were using it as a guitar amp and then driving the thing to distort
kakobrekla: yeah theres a thing with harmonics
decimation: I've been told (haven't experimented) that tubs tend to create even harmonics while transistors odd, when driven to near saturation
decimation: but if you are clipping or have momentarily large signal, the behavior in the 'non-linear' domain of the amplifier will be different between tubes and transistors
decimation: I think for most cases there is almost no difference
kakobrekla: the device originally came w/o the tube, the mod was an aftermarket thing
kakobrekla: decimation as far as i can tell tubes are there as output buffer, feeding of sigma delta dac
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: What about cutting off the leading zero. Then actual releases start at version 7 or 10, following in the tradition established by the early Linux Distros.
decimation: kakobrekla: so the sigma-delta is implented with tube or does it merely use tube as output amplifier?
kakobrekla just bitching at the unrecognizability of the f name
kakobrekla: hehe the foundation has same name, wai not versions
mats: pimsleur, rosetta stone, duolingo. your tutors await.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, mod6, ben_vulpes, et al: i just don't get this 'let's use same name & versions as the fools did' thing. when we build martian city, will we name it 'washington' or 'pyongyang' ?! why?
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu turns out, bitcoind 0.5.4 shitgnomatic edition existed.
shinohai: I have put out ads for 2 years offering to hire a language tutor.
shinohai: Hopefully to find a native speaker, which is impossible in my small city.
kakobrekla: most of the sw is opensource btw.
shinohai: I didn't know anyone still made them.
shinohai: I saw a Samsung tube amp wifi receiver for a home theater once
kakobrekla: (as for the remote, you can actually ssh into it)
kakobrekla: so thats bout 2k albums at the touch of a button, convenient.
kakobrekla: it streams flac from the server
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: what are the antennae for ?
shinohai wants to learn Russian so badly.
asciilifeform: http://lurkmore.to/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Tubesound.jpg << there it is!
kakobrekla: its a sigma delta , yes not even r2r but theres a rectifier and two output tubes
asciilifeform: as in, 16 bits of tube ?
kakobrekla: i have a tube powered dac but my main power amp sits at 40kg of solid state
asciilifeform: mega-popular taunt in ru sphere, applied to various 'voodoo'
shinohai: I used to play guitar. I never liked solid state amps
asciilifeform: would have to obtain sockets. and clean +100 dc..
kakobrekla: its easier than doing it solid state
asciilifeform has a supply of vacuum valves, scavenged from ancient tv sets, has contemplated building amp. but this will happen - if happens - after the war.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: is that a vacuum valve amp ?
kakobrekla: anyway, if you have a chance to at least try them semi properly driven, please do.
asciilifeform: i'm told that in usa folks in prison get headphones. and now i imagine i know what kind.
kakobrekla: i dont know how some people dont mind that plastic, its horrible.
kakobrekla: or whatever that thing is
kakobrekla: yeah, i paid 7$ to get the 'velour' ones
asciilifeform: even the earpads on the 'superlux' feel terrible - no sweat pores; rather like a public bus seat
asciilifeform: everyone loves to piss on that vendor but who, precisely, else, makes usable headphone.
asciilifeform: comparing with bog-standard 'bose qc15' which ~don't~ sound like russian telephone
kakobrekla: even so, the impedance is not fixed through the freq response
kakobrekla: but thats china spec
asciilifeform: let me guess - they aren't standard impedance ?
kakobrekla: this is what they are plugged into http://www.hifiengine.com/images/model/denon_pma-350se_stereo_integrated_amplifier.jpg
asciilifeform: thing is, sound card is precisely how loud i want them
asciilifeform: what does kakobrekla connect them to ?
shinohai: But, to each his own.